Nxivm Leader Keith Raniere Was Holocaust Denier – Claimed Top Members Were Former Nazis

Instagram banned this painting by MK10ART. It depicts Keith Raniere and Nancy Salzman, who Keith Raniere claimed was Adolf Hitler in her past life.

It is not unreasonable to assume that we can glean lessons from what happened in Nxivm.  Not so much, any more, to stop Nxivm leader, Keith Alan Raniere  – for he is stopped – he faces life in prison – but to understand how people can follow a man like him and be led to catastrophe.

This then is in the form of prevention, rather than cure. For if it happened here – in 21st century America – it could happen elsewhere and likely is happening elsewhere.

The following is based on numerous sources within Nxivm  – indeed from his inner circle. There is little doubt that Raniere said and did the things claimed below.

I know it sounds fantastic. That he blew through $65 million of two heiress followers’ money and blamed it on the Jews. But he did.

And it sounds fantastic that he told members of his harem that they were Nazis in their past lives and they believed him and continued to follow him – some of them guilt-ridden because of their newly-known, Nazi past.

This kind of thing strains at the boundaries of human credulity, yet it is true. They believed him. And there must be a lesson in that. Something we can learn about thinking for ourselves and not believing blindly, whether it comes from a cult-like guru or a religion that demands blind faith.

Maybe the lesson is that only when we reject all help are we free. When we allow no one to do our thinking for us, when no one knows better than us about our own lives, can we be considered sane and evolved. Maybe this is the lesson we can learn from Keith Raniere and the people who followed him, who allowed him to do their thinking and believed he knew better than they themselves. In so believing they had to ignore their own inner voice in order to follow him down a path of destruction.

That in itself is fascinating.

Let us go back to 2005.

Two sisters, Sara and Clare Bronfman, heiresses of the Seagram’s fortune and followers of Raniere, covered $65 million in losses that Raniere had incurred in a series of commodities trades based on an algorithm he claimed to have devised.

He was touted as the smartest man in the world. He developed, he said, a mathematical formula for trading in commodities that would bring the wealth of the world under his ethical control.

The gullible Bronfman sisters covered $65 million of Raniere’s losses in the commodities market.

Keith Alan Raniere lost every dime of it.

World’s Smartest Man

Despite Raniere’s infallible formula, the Bronfman sisters had to “lend” $65 million to First Principles, Inc. to cover the losses incurred by Raniere. He explained the losses were not due to his blunders but to outside forces beyond his control.

According to former Nxivm insiders, Raniere told the sisters that their father, billionaire Edgar Bronfman, Sr., had pulled strings and invested money to manipulate commodities prices that worked against Raniere’s positions [mainly in corn futures] to cause their staggering loss of money.

It was initially assumed [Clare Bronfman told me this herself] that Papa Bronfman did this because he did not like Raniere having undue influence over his daughters. He wanted Raniere discredited at any price.

However, Raniere explained to the Bronfman sisters that there was a deeper, more sinister motive.  Raniere said he was a threat to the Zionist world.

Edgar Bronfman, Sr. died in December 2013. It is reported he was heartbroken over the involvement of his daughters with Keith Raniere.

Edgar Bronfman, Sr. was President of the World Jewish Congress [from 1979-2007.] He was also President of the World Jewish Restitution Organization, whose objective is to ensure “The return of communal Jewish property stolen by the Nazis and then by the communists in Eastern Europe, and property in Western Europe stolen by the Nazis and unaccounted for.”

Raniere explained to the Bronfmans and other followers that he knew things that threatened the foundations of the Jewish world.

Some doubted that Edgar Bronfman even knew about Raniere’s commodities losses that his daughters had covered. The girls took great pains to hide it from their father, even going so far as to list the $65 million losses as a loan on their balance sheets – as if it was going to be repaid [with interest].

The skeptics of Raniere claim he made the whole Bronfman, Sr. story up to cover up his own blunder, [or swindle] and merely used the father and Jewish leadership as a foil.

The sisters, however, [when I raised this possibility with them] chose to believe Raniere, [and fired me as their consultant for raising the question].

Raniere often told his inner circle about the reason Bronfman went against him.

Raniere said he “learned” that Nazi Germany did not use extermination camps and gas chambers to mass murder Jews. Raniere claimed the actual number of Jews killed was significantly lower than the historically accepted figure of six million.

Raniere said Holocaust was Zionist fraud

According to inner circle members, Raniere’s views are similar to those found in some quadrants of the internet – which led skeptics to believe that Raniere’s “proof” was gleaned entirely from internet websites.

Raniere’s stated views are similar to various antisemitic and/or conspiracy website views, which are:

  1. The Holocaust is an exaggeration arising out of a Jewish conspiracy, designed to advance the interest of Jews at the expense of other peoples.
  2. The stories of Nazi brutality were propaganda.
  3. Germany was the victim of Allied aggression.
  4. Allegations made against Germany, including the Holocaust, were wartime propaganda which was used to justify the United States’ involvement in World War II.
  5. The Allies made the Nazis the “scapegoat” for their misdeeds.  The atrocities of the Allies were worse than the most extreme allegations made against the Germans. The Nazi treatment of Jews was no different from what the Allies did to their enemies in World War II.
  6. Jewish leaders [like Edgar Bronfman] derived billions of dollars from nonexistent  cadavers, whose numbers have been calculated in a distorted and dishonest manner
  7. There was no German program to exterminate European Jews. The Holocaust – the alleged extermination of six million Jews (most of them by gassing) – is a hoax.
  8. There were no gas chambers in Auschwitz or any German concentration camp. Neither at Auschwitz nor in any territory controlled by the Germans was there mass murder of Jews.
  9. Raniere admits there were scattered killings. But most who died at Auschwitz died of natural causes. The death of some Jews was due to the typhus plague during the war and the famine towards the end of the war caused by the defeat of the Germans and America’s ongoing cruelty to Germans.
  10. The Zionists fabricated the Holocaust myth. Leading Jews – such as Edgar Bronfman – spread this myth as part of a plot intended to enable the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, garner support for the state of Israel, and pocket money for themselves and their friends.

How Keith Raniere claimed he got his “evidence” is unclear.  One source said Raniere admitted he found most of his “facts” on the internet but, when combined with his “gigantic brain,” and deep insights, he was able to put it all together as no one had ever done before.

Whether Edgar Bronfman ever found out about Keith’s internet realizations is unclear. But Raniere told inner circle members that Bronfman, the Zionists, and even the Illuminati were against him and wanted him silenced.

His “knowledge” of the Holocaust “hoax”, Raniere claimed, put a scare into Bronfman and other Jews who were afraid Raniere, with his superior intellect, would come out with logical proof. If he had made millions or billions from his foolproof commodities trades – he would have the resources to prove to the world that the holocaust was a lie.

This was the motive, Raniere said, for them to foil his commodities trades.

[There are some Raniere followers who still believe this is true and is the sole reason why Raniere was prosecuted on false charges on false evidence and was unjustly convicted.] 

MK10ART’s painting of Keith Alan Raniere, the world’s smartest man. He is behind bars, his followers say, because he had to be silenced for what he knew to free the people of the world.

Former Nazis Were Followers?

Perhaps it was not the internet alone where Raniere claimed he learned about the Holocaust. He may have gotten insights from his own followers.

Raniere identified several harem members as having been connected with the Nazis in a previous life.  Raniere, who claimed to have supernatural powers, said he could tell who people were in their past lives.

[Photo courtesy Barbara Bouchey.]
Barbara Bouchey was a harem member of Raniere’s. He said Bouchey was Reinhard Heydrich in her past life.

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Reinhard Heydrich

Ivy Nevares, another harem member, was said by Raniere to have been a Nazi working under Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda.

 

Some thought Ivy was Brunhilde Pomsel, Goebbels’ secretary.

 

Pam Cafrtiz was a low-level Nazi according to Raniere.

The late Pamela Cafritz was identified as an obscure, low-level Nazi whose name has not been passed down to history.

Raniere said another former harem member, Toni Natalie, was Herman Goering in her previous life.

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Toni Natalie was told she was Herman Goering.

Alex Betancourt was identified as Benito Mussolini, the Italian dictator.

alejandro

Nancy Salzman was at first identified as a Jewish woman in her past life who was a victim of the Nazi regime.  Later, Keith realized that Nancy was, in fact, Adolf Hitler, which came as a surprise to Salzman who is Jewish in this life.

Like all his followers who had been told they were Nazis, Nancy believed Keith. None of them left and said he was insane after he told them about their Nazi pasts.

Salzman, who had been told by Raniere that she was formerly Hitler, realized she had done a great deal of wrong in exterminating so many Jews, but Keith assured her that actual Jewish causalities were far less than what the Jews claimed.  However, she was not fully exonerated. She, as Hitler, still had many crimes to atone for.

He would show her how to undo her awful karmic past.  A grateful Salzman said she felt blessed that Raniere was undertaking her redemption.

[I know this sounds incredulous, but we are talking about a man who persuaded eight first line slaves to start branding women with his initials and collecting blackmail material in a master-slave relationship in order to promote female empowerment.]

Salzman Caused 9-11

 

Nancy Salzman

 

To take the credulity of the followers of Raniere a step further – with an additional example, let us consider how Nancy Salzman blamed herself for 9-11.

She explained to a source I spoke with that she caused 9-11 by her delay in believing in Keith Raniere.

Salzman told the story of how when Pam Cafritz first told her about Raniere and how great he was – and that she should help him in his quest to save the world – Nancy hesitated.

She wanted more proof. She wanted to examine his motives.

She finally chose to follow Raniere but had been at first a Doubting Thomas. The delay in time in following Keith was not great, a few weeks or a month. But that time Nancy held off trusting the man who wished to create a more noble civilization caused evil to triumph.

She hesitated, she said, and 3,000 lives were lost.

How was 9-11 her fault?  Nancy joined Raniere in 1998 — 9-11 happened in 2001.

But Nancy explained that Raniere’s ‘tech’ was so powerful that, had she not procrastinated that few weeks in 1998 – and got on board, learning and teaching the tech – the world would have changed – oh, so, subtly – but it would have changed enough that 9-11 would have been avoided.

[Today, Salzman tells former Nxivm members that she is permitted to speak to that she feels duped by Raniere. She says she no longer follows the Vanguard.]

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Nancy Salzman in her past life?
Nancy in her present life.

 

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Keith Alan Raniere claimed to know who his followers were in their past lives. He also claimed he set off radar detectors when he drove, that the rain would pour down on women he was annoyed with when walking with them but not a drop would fall on him, and that snowstorms would erupt when he taught a new curriculum at Nxivm. In the picture above, he is telling followers that he has had people killed for his beliefs.

He Knows About the Holocaust – Or Does He?

In a sense, it makes Raniere-type sense. If anyone would know enough to discredit the veracity of the Holocaust, who better then the word’s smartest man, who had top Nazis reincarnated as his disciples?

Either that, or he is just a liar, an old fashioned, bullshitting liar, who swindled the Bronfman girls out of $65 million, or blew it through stupidity, and lied about it.

Either he is telling the truth or his lie was a $65 million dollar whopper.

As for knowing the past lives of his followers – they believed him then. It is unlikely that any of them believe it now.

Such is belief. It can change. For those who believed in Raniere – sooner or later it changed and for most those changes were painful.

 

 

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Jane
Jane
4 years ago

I don;’t know why his educated intelligent followers could believe this kind of thing. I can understand girls brougth up away from everyone else without any education in a religion like FLDS coudl believe Warren Jeffs is president of the USA who were born into the religion but these were educated often wealthy women who actually tend more towards atheism these days than new age stuff or traditional religion. That jews were prepared to believe they were reincarted and had been Hitler just shows the powers KR did have to convince people of a lot of things. He may not be the brightest man on the planet but he certainly had skills at conning people.

As for he is not in charge now – Warren Jeffs runs the FLDS via prison visits etc and is still their prophet so I suppose it depends what conntact KR will have his followers in prison that might determine that. However he is not the one mighty and strong ordained by God through the generations so I doubt his hold is as strong as that of some religious cult leaders. I was sorting my uncle’s 1940 poems today – his writing (he was an atheist of Christian background)0 about the damage to the jews by Hitler even then in early 1940 was more extensive than I had remembered that people in England had in the early days of WWII. Good for him.

g
g
4 years ago

The operative question no one has yet answered is this:

WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES IT, WHY IS IT, THAT PEOPLE SUSPEND THEIR RATIONAL MIND?

Had they put such claims to the test they would have seen them for lies.

Yet, whether it is a religion, philosophy, ideology, political, etc PEOPLE SUSPEND THEIR RATIONAL MIND!

Don’t say NOT I! Cause you have already done so many times over.

Nutjob
Nutjob
4 years ago
Reply to  g

“WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES IT, WHY IS IT, THAT PEOPLE SUSPEND THEIR RATIONAL MIND?”

In this specific case, Brian Weiss.

Shivani33
Shivani33
4 years ago

Raniere knew Clare and her sister well. He understood their context and how to weaponize them and to get them into an “us vs. them” mentality. The past life references were such blatant, obtrusive crap. He got them to use this fallacious madness not only against their father, but ultimately against themselves. Happy trails. Keith Raniere fueled the grudges that these two already held against old Edgar and the rest of the Bronfman family.

Once upon a time, Edgar Bronfman had a 20 year marriage and 5 children. I mean, let’s all sing Ashford and Simpson’s Solid as a Rock for a minute or two in commemoration.

Then he spent his mid-forties until his early fifties wrecking everything with a helluva midlife crisis. He had an affair, divorced his lifetime bride and married the affair gal. They divorced fast. But Edgar wasn’t done fucking up yet. He was on a roll.

He rushed off right off and begat Sara and then Clare with a younger, good-looking woman, but he couldn’t stand her. Hahaha. Georgiana. Hardly a woman designed to be able to pull it off as part of any Jewish matriarchy. She would never be seen as stepmother material to his five older offspring. And here dad was having two kids with her while he was already a grandfather. Utterly ridiculous mismatch. Fought like dogies.

But what did Edgar Bronfman know about lust or, for that matter, did he know how to spell the word “vasectomy?” Edgar a fish out of water. Georgiana probably already horrified the minute she hooked him. They married and divorced each other twice. That was twice that they forgot how incompatible they were. The thing is, men in general liked Georgiana. This has been a huge part of her life, these darn men.

There was never much of a second family. Georgiana, Sara and Clare’s mother, took the girls off to England and Kenya as much as she could. She was young and destined to be very distracted by her own lovelife. For now, that’s another story, children. And though it might help to explain Clare’s nonorgasmic frostiness, it is a story for mature audiences only.

Actaeon
Actaeon
4 years ago

“This kind of thing strains at the boundaries of human credulity… ”
The reincarnation malarky fits right in with Raniere’s adoption of generic Eastern mysticism as part of his spiel. It’s the kind of thing that sounds profound to the rubes he conned. Lots of people are eager to believe this kind of deep-seeming mystical new-age claptrap. And after all, believing in past lives, or the next one, is part of mainstream religious doctrine. If people are willing to believe in Heaven and angels and pearly gates, why not believe in past life baloney?

The Nazi bit is so Raniere. It’s such a typical obsession for a man-boy like him, stuck in perpetual adolescence. I can just see him sitting on his rumpled unmade bed in his underwear, watching “Nazi Superweapons” on PBS and imagining he’s doing historical research, pizza box getting grease on the sheets while a pair of his unwashed socks adds ambience to the stink. When he told his acolytes about their previous lives as evil Nazis, did any of these idiots notice his fuzzy thinking? I mean, on the one hand he tells them that the Nazis weren’t that bad, they didn’t actually go around gassing Jews, they were really more sinned against than sinning really, while on the other hand he’s laying a guilt trip on them for having been these (not so bad) Nasties in a previous life? Did none of them raise their hand and ask, “but Keith darling, I’m confused, were the Nazis evil or not?”. No, of course not. Because if any of these fools were the type to ask questions, or to do anything but blindly follow their leader, they wouldn’t be in Nxivm or DOS at all.

g
g
4 years ago
Reply to  Actaeon

But the money kept rolling in for some.
For others they had burned all their bridges so they had nowhere to turn.

Scott Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  Actaeon

Q: If people are willing to believe in Heaven and angels and pearly gates, why not believe in past life baloney?

A: In part, because there’s physical evidence the Bible is true: https://www.google.com/search?q=physical+evidence+the+bible+is+true&oq=physical+evidence+the+bible+is+true&aqs=chrome..69i57.9543j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

X P Alidocius
X P Alidocius
4 years ago

Holocaust deniers are equivalent to flat-earthers, y’know?

There are enough Americans at any one time since the end of ww2, making the pilgrimage to the death camps replete with the artefacts of death by gas chamber, slave labour, starvation and all other tortures. There are still individuals alive to recount well substantiated witness testimony. then there is the evidence, the reams and hectares of records in paper and stone.

Gainsaying an evident Truth is clear proof of a Lie.

AnonyMaker
AnonyMaker
4 years ago
Reply to  X P Alidocius

The diehard conspiracy theorists always have an explanation that they think is better, for inconvenient facts, and even preponderances of evidence, though. Like Raniere, they like to think they’re much smarter than average, though they obviously lack in common sense if not border on suffering from paranoid delusion.

Actaeon
Actaeon
4 years ago
Reply to  AnonyMaker

To a conspiracy theory buff, the more evidence there is for the mainstream account merely shows to what lengths “they” went to plant evidence.

Anonymous
4 years ago

Any person who set out to frame Raniere could not even come close to doing the damage he did to himself. He handed the evidence to the EDNY on a sliver platter. Yolanda and Pea reminds me this world is a scary place, one day I hope you two will realize that your lives mean absolutely nothing to Keith Raniere. He has played you all along.

niceguy
niceguy
4 years ago

Is Alex Betancourt the non German Mussolini because Alex is darker than everyone else?

Sadly, in addition to being anti-Semitic Keith Raniere is racist as well….

Boohoo!!!

niceguy
niceguy
4 years ago
Reply to  niceguy

Unfortunately, Alex is the only non German reincarnation….

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

Just goes to show how delusional these people are.

orangecountydreams - OCD
orangecountydreams - OCD
4 years ago

He is a virulent anti-Semite and woman hater. He doesn’t care for anyone else much, either.

BKH
BKH
4 years ago

If I were to start my own cult, previous-life Nazis would be my first preference of membership.

Weird people.

rychwebo
4 years ago

I’m pretty sure if this sex cult/trafficking ring were reincarnated Bolsheviks, we would not know what of their crimes. Any crime against the Jews is spread through their media, and any crime done by one of their own is buried. If its not buried, other Jews will label their comrades as white. Any criticism of my portrayal of Jews will only confirm you’re a Jew or you’re a tool to them, because it is statistically accurate.

Judeophile
Judeophile
4 years ago
Reply to  rychwebo

Where are these statistics?

It is the case that the third reich was responsible for the deaths of 26million bolshevik soldiers and civilians.

It is true that White Saxon Protestant Nazi Germany, wiped out more Russians than Jewish, Slavic, Polish, Homosexuals and other

proscribed groups all put together. All of this happened.

The besetting fault of holocaust denial is Cowardice.

Why don’t they just declare their approval of holocaust and their desire to bring about another? Too Shy? or Too Sly?

Pea Onyu
Pea Onyu
4 years ago

First they came for Vanguard and I didn’t object for I followed the tech and knew he would prevail. Then they came for Prefect and I didn’t object for I had my coach Esther. Then they came for Legatus and again I did not object for I had Sara and Basit. And now they are coming for me Esther Sara and Basit. and then they are coming for you and there is no one left to object. A cautionary tale. We must object now and thwart the evil conspiracy that threatens to destroy our world. And steal our freedoms. We will all become slaves. -but not to a benevolent Grand Matser but the global cabal.
#IStandWithEsther
Robbie does not speak for Esther. The whole story about Robbie and Cami is 100 percent untrue.

BKH
BKH
4 years ago
Reply to  Pea Onyu

“And now they are coming for me Esther Sara and Basit.”

I hope you’re not just saying that to get our hopes up.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  BKH

Ok, that comment made me laugh , thanks !

Scott Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  Pea Onyu

Too bad Raniere’s lawyers didn’t know the Robbie/Cami story was untrue, or did you tell them and they didn’t believe you? What else during the trial do you claim was untrue?

shadowstate1958
4 years ago
Reply to  Pea Onyu

Good Morning, Pea:
I hope you weren’t caught up in the Manhattan blackout over the weekend.

“I didn’t object for I had my coach Esther. ”
“#IStandWithEsther”

So, Pea, Esther was your NXIVM coach.
That’s a coincidence.
Esther was also the coach for our dear friend Nicki Clyne.

Nicki Clyne

Referred by Sarah J Edmondson
Clifton Park, NY
Orange, 1 stripes
Coach: Esther L. Carlson

I’m sure that it’s just a coincidence.

Once upon a cult
Once upon a cult
4 years ago
Reply to  Pea Onyu

Pea, you better eat more than just 500 calories a day, your brain is malfunctioning. Vangone is anyway locked away in jail with a very nasty fungical infection, so there is no need for you continue behave as his slave and no hope that you ever lie with him ever again.

Pyriel
Pyriel
4 years ago
Reply to  Pea Onyu

Pea/Yolanda is simply a troll doing what trolls do and trying to shock. No true follower of Raniere would have been so stupid as to post comments before his trial that directly implicated him online in sexual crimes and tolerated such acts. The other loyal members would have made attempts to silence her. In fact, the Feds would have probably looked into the identity of Pea/Yolanda. Maybe Pea/Yolanda never heard of NXIVM until the stories started to appear.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

Just so you people know, there is a continuing community of believers up here supporting the Prefect, that icon of female empowerment. Sure, there is a sense of embarrassment with the infamy of Keith being a ridiculous, self-serving perv. Mind blown with the group still believing that they have a “tech” and that great things can still be/have been accomplished. Mostly it’s Nancy’s shopping and lunch buddies. Hoping they will just fade away.

shadowstate1958
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

“Hoping they will just fade away.”

Didn’t Douglas MacArthur say, “Old Perverts Never Die. They Just Fade Away” ?

g
g
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Barb Bouchey is constantly touting the “good” of the tech.
Nancy misses the $$$$$ from her con job.

AnonyMaker
AnonyMaker
4 years ago

It’s not surprising that the conspiracy theory craziness turns out to run deep in a group like this, and with its guru – it’s a typical feature of high control groups or cults, and particularly of NXIVM’s partial model, Scientology. We’re seeing similar things revealed about Knight and her Ramtha School, as well.

Raniere’s ideas might have started with “revisionist” history books published before the internet, and maybe pieces in some newspapers like the Spotlight (published by Liberty Lobby, but also connected to the LaRouche cult). The roots of this sort of thinking in general probably go back in part to his experience at a Waldorf school, and exposure to the underlying pseudo-scientific theories of its founder Rudolph Steiner, who had strange theories about reincarnation and race.

We can see how the conspiracy theories are used to create an us-versus-them mentality, as well as to excuse any inconvenient failures of the leader or the ideology. It’s all pretty classic – the same sort of mechanisms are even at work in Orwell’s 1984.

The use of supposed past lives as a tool of manipulation, is also a variation of what is done in Scientology.

Heidi Hutchinson
Heidi Hutchinson
4 years ago

All true insofar as Keith’s despicable, long-held anti-Semitic beliefs but I don’t believe Nancy Salzman truly ever swallowed a word of it.

Salzman was already a successful sharletan “hypnotherapist” in her 40’s when she hooked up with Keith. Her world view and personal belief system — whatever that may be — must have been solidly in place by that point.

In fact, Nancy adjudged Keith to be “delusional” upon first meeting him.

Many of NX’s much younger, malleable acolytes put their faith in Nancy and her endorsement of the ESP “tech” as a tool for success and personal growth such as Nancy appeared to have attained long before she partnered with him.

Nancy is a farce, a master manipulator to rival Keith himself and, worst of all, a traitor to her own people including her own daughters.

While other Jewish NX members might have been pained with guilt over their alleged past-life Nazi affiliations; IMO, Nancy only reveled in the power Keith’s recognition of her as the highest ranking of them all conferred on her.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

Yep. Nancy is a true perp, the other with a title. She absolutely saw and loved the Vanguard charade and was willing to take second fiddle–sort of–only looking down her nose at the idiots who were, literally, buying it. Ok. Now she renounces her Vanguard. Come on. Nan and her squad made fun of everyone. Idk what the deal was, really, with the way she treated Lauren and Michelle, but she set the path for a Rosa Laura. All this bs about the successors.

It is sort of ironic how Prefect failed so spectacularly with her social climbing in Saratoga via Clifton Park. Seems like Frank has a bit of a soft spot for her sometimes, like rolling his eyes at the goofy claims.

Scott Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Raniere had a soft spot for all the women he met, it is right between his legs.

Nutjob
Nutjob
4 years ago

So I’ll play a little devil’s advocate to Heidi’s well thought out post. At that point in Nancy’s life, JUST BEFORE she met Keith, she was big into past life regressions. She was just as big into doing past life regressions on people as she was into NLP and Ericksonian. I do not think it was a coincidence that Keith just so happenned to start telling people who they were in their past lives. He went there because he knew Nancy was into it and she’d buy in.

Nancy did think Keith was delusional and a “psychopath” (her words at the time). It was amazing how she went from being confident in those beliefs one day, and then quickly changing beliefs by thinking Keith was her Guru. I disagree with Heidi when she says that Nancy never swallowed a word of Keith’s BS. I think she did swallow his BS (pun intended) and she was bouncing along like a kid who just found the best mentor in the world.

Nancy MUST have starting questioning Keith when the bizarre Toni escape/takedown occurred. If she didn’t, it must have helped her open her eyes in the future (and scare her into thinking about what would happen if she left him). I do believe Nancy (at some point I’m not sure of) realized Vanguard had no clothes. She then chickened out of doing the right thing because her business would be ruined, and because she didn’t want to lose Lauren (we saw what happened to Dr Salzman when he dared not bow down to Keith).

Scott Johnson
4 years ago

I vote for the liar alternative.

Yolanda Cortez
Yolanda Cortez
4 years ago

Do not doubt the truth of this. See how he was framed. They are coming after you. You talk about being lemmings. You are all blind. They took Keith out when he is 100 percent innocent.

NCGirl
NCGirl
4 years ago
Reply to  Yolanda Cortez

Yolanda, Keith’s a fraud. The Holocaust happened. None of the NXIVM people are reincarnated Nazis. The Bronfman girls gave their money to a con man and he blew through it. Apparently, Clare is still devoted to the smelly creep as much as you are. Keith is going to prison for a long time.
Have a nice day!

shadowstate1958
4 years ago
Reply to  NCGirl

NC Girl:
Yolanda is none other than Nicki Clyne and as much a True Believer as anyone.
And even Nicki’s spouse Allison Mack cooperated only to the bare minimum needed to get a plea deal.

NCGirl
NCGirl
4 years ago

Shadow, what’s sad is how blind they are. They fantasize that Keith is better than sliced bread. He’s not. He’s not even better than moldy bread (because, penicillin, ya know.) But still these people labor on in their delusions. I imagine his sentencing might be a rude awakening for a brief moment.

orangecountydreams - OCD
orangecountydreams - OCD
4 years ago
Reply to  NCGirl

Neither Yolanda Cortez nor Pea Onyu are real contributors. They are false posters looking to pull your chain. This has been going on for years. Responding tho “them” is a waste of time, IMO.

It would be different if there were reall NXIVM loyalists posting here, but I doubt that will ever be the case.

shadowstate1958
4 years ago
Reply to  Yolanda Cortez

Ola, Yolanda!

Now that the trial of NXIVM, at least the Brooklyn part, is over, there is an issue that perhaps you could help us with.
Last year there was a dialogue that your friend Pea Onyu had with a commenter using the name “Ryanne S.”

I will try to post parts of the dialogue which might be relevant.

None of these lines are made by me except where my pseudonym Shadow State appears.
I apologize before hand if any of the language is rough or crude or rude but it is not my doing.
It is other commenters.
These dialogues raise questions:

1.) Who is Ryanne S.?

2.) Notice the use by Ryanne S. of demeaning nicknames for other people.
At trial it came out that Allison Mack would use demeaning nicknames for people.
One young woman was called “The Princess” by Mack.
Another young women was called “The Brat” by Mack.
In this strange dialogue we see references used by Ryanne S. to “Hidey hidey the Ho” and “Lara Le Fart.”

3.) Pea tried to ask Ryanne S. about Rhiannon, a person who played a major role in the early part of Raniere’s career as a criminal.
Ryanne S. denied knowing anything about Rhiannon.
At the recent trial when one witness confronted Allison Mack with the press account of Raniere’s dealings with Rhiannon, Allison Mack denied even knowing about it asking, “Do you think I would work for a pedophile?”

4.) So Pea Onyu, did your spouse Allison find a way to circumvent any restrictions and go on the internet to read and comment on the Frank Report?
Is Ryanne S. really a pseudonym which Allison gave to herself?
Pea, you were very curious about the identity of Ryanne S. almost right away.
Was that because you suspected Ryanne S. might be Allison?
After all you are familiar with the way Allison communicates and her vocabulary.

5.) A poster using the name Anon says, “If you really are “A” then you deserve to have your children taken away.”
The only “A” in the NXIVM story who pledged her children was Allison Mack.

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Ryanne S
October 7, 2018 at 7:00 pm
Hidey hidey the Ho
Dont frigging lie to us, missy Ho. We all know.
You were taping yourself as you screwed that hairy, sexy beast, Keith. We know about your Bigfoot erotica fetish… and even though Keith has those tiny feet , he sure is hairy.
How about his ass, Hidey Ho? How hairy is he there? Anything else you’d like to share with us?
Come on… You could even go on scooter’s cooter show and spill the beans. Enquiring minds and all that!!
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Pea Onyu
October 7, 2018 at 9:13 pm
Tell me troll, are you paid to post here or are you a true believer? Is your name a tribute to Ayn Rand or to the moon Goddess Rhiannon, who well serviced our Vanguard in her youthful splendor?
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Ryanne S
October 7, 2018 at 9:59 pm
I don’t know Pea because I’m not the inventor of this dumb name Alison is the one who chose it, so ask her!
Who is Rhiannon?, I’ve heard that name .mentioned before.
But Pea, you may finally be right about something! How about THAT Captain Shadow!!
Finally Pea gets something correct!!
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shadowstate1958
October 7, 2018 at 10:11 pm
I don’t know Pea because I’m not the inventor of this dumb name Alison is the one who chose it, so ask her!

Are you saying Allison Mack created Pea Onyu?
Or at least chose the name?
Pea first appeared about a year ago.
So Pea is actually Nicki Cline, Allison Mack’s spouse.!
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Ryanne S
October 7, 2018 at 10:30 pm
Sorry Captain Shadow
I wasnt clear, which was my fault.
No, Allison did not create Pea Onyu, as far as I know. But she did choose THIS name, right Allie?…And I ever said anything about Mack.
Now I think Allie is all mad cuz I’m taunting her with this dumb name…
What happened to Bianca and Lara Le Fart?
I really HATED that Fart bitch!
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shadowstate1958
October 7, 2018 at 11:00 pm
Now I think Allie is all mad cuz I’m taunting her with this dumb name…

Does Allie follow the Frank Report?
How does she do so in spite of the court order?
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Ryanne S
October 7, 2018 at 11:19 pm
She sure does, Captain Shadow. She even writes posts here. In fact, she could be Heidi or Anon or Onewomanarmy or
OCD. But I dont think she is the scooter/flowers guy, but maybe she is.

But I know for a fact that she is writing shit here. Right Allie?

I dont think this Allie is a Mack, though, more like Allie Whack.
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Ryanne S
October 7, 2018 at 11:26 pm
And Johnny B Dumb, I would ask all readers to tell you to go fuck yourself with a pointy stick dipped in hot sauce, sitting in a room filled with nude pictures of Clare.
But you may enjoy that too much!!
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Ryanne S
October 8, 2018 at 3:21 pm
Look! I just noticed this reply! I told Johnny to stick a pointy stick up his ass and then he says ” I would “…..so obviously he enjoyed my suggestion.

So quit complaining bitches! Frank won’t ban me because then he would need to ban almost everyone. Cuz you’re all bitches too!
Right?!
————————————

A few days later this dislog appeared and was moved to the “Ass Hole section.”

Anon
October 9, 2018 at 1:40 pm
To the CREATURE CALLING THEMSELF RYANNE S. YOU LOST BITCH. I usually don’t use language like this but that’s between me and God. Wether pretending to be someone else or this is who you really are I don’t care , please write an awesome response I won’t bother to be back to read it. If you are A than your kid/kids should be removed .
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Ryanne S
October 9, 2018 at 11:24 pm
Anon who needs bannin’:
What did I lose? Bitch.
As usual you were very unclear, you said I lost something, but you are either too passive aggressive too stupid to tell me what you think I lost.

“If I am A my kids should be removed?’ I’m going to assume you meant a mother.
Its pretty strange how my posts would make you say that, cuz just think of all the vile and shitty things all these crazy fuckers have been posting here for months.
Yeah.. I’ve been reading it all. Did you ever say anything to those asshole, Miss shit-for- brains anon?
But I insulted YOU , and since you’re the most specialist person here, so now the police should take my kids away to vindicate poor insulted anon??
Lol!
LMAO!
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shadowstate1958
October 10, 2018 at 3:38 am
Ryanne S:
Who is this Anon writing such a post to you?
Most males don’t threaten to take away children from their mothers unless it’s a family dispute.
Doesn’t NXIVM require as collateral a Woman’s children?
Didn’t Allison Mack offer her children, yet to be born, as collateral?

“since you’re the most specialist person here”

What makes Anon so much a specialist?
A specialist in what?

Who is this Anon poster?
To borrow a line from Harry Potter is it “She who must not be named”?
Is it Chloe Sullivan?

Ryanne S., I believe you have a story to tell.
A very important story.
As I have said before you should consider telling your story to Frank Parlato.
You can find Frank’s email under the Contact me line on this website.
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Ryanne S
October 10, 2018 at 3:07 pm
Captain Shadow
(Special). .sorry that was a typo courtesy of auto correct, but who knows, it could be true. They could be a specialist, but whoever they are, I don’t think they are really sick with cancer like they claim to be. I think they are lying, and I think they are probably a NXIVM member or something weird.

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Now I am sure that Pea Onyu would be familiar with the way her long time friend and spouse Allison would write and talk.
Would Allison Mack use lots of four letter words.
Scatological words?

In the Spring of 2017 Nicki Clyne and her friend Allison Mack visited the Broad art museum in Los Angeles.
Nicki posted a rear view of Allison looking at some wall mounted art.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQ5ymhrlM5G/

Here is Nicki’s comment:
nickiclyne

The Broad
nickiclyne’s profile picture
nickiclyne
just a broad viewing art at the broad
124w

And here is Allison Mack’s comment.

allisonmack729
hey that’s me bein all artsy and shit!
116wReply

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At one point in these dialogues Ryanne S. makes this statement:
” I would ask all readers to tell you to go fuck yourself with a pointy stick dipped in hot sauce”

What a curious statement.
Because it turns out that Allison Mack likes Tabasco, one of the hottest sauces around.
https://www.instagram.com/p/LGceaVpi-j/

allisonmack729
Hey cutie. A shot of hot.
372w
——————————-
And look at this choice of words by Ryanne S.:
“sitting in a room filled with nude pictures of Clare.”
Who in NXIVM was taking nude pictures?
Allison Mack.
If there were nude pictures of Clare, which I doubt, Allison Mack would have been the photographer.
——————————————————
Shortly after these dialogues Ryanne S. vanished into the mists.
Was she spooked that someone might have identified her?

Here are the Frank Report Posts from which these comments are collected:
https://frankreport.com/2018/10/07/prosecutions-latest-filing-portends-big-problems-for-raniere-et-al/

https://frankreport.com/2018/10/09/the-assholes-nearly-took-over-the-comments-section-i-now-delete-them/

g
g
4 years ago

Great sleuthing!
Of course Allison is on the Internet.
Leopards don’t change their spots and neither does she.

Scott Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  g

The Feds may be able to track Mack’s internet access and charge her with violating the terms of her bail. Perhaps that’s another reason for postponing her sentencing.

Spritz
Spritz
4 years ago

Hi Shadow,

FYI, toward the end of the commentary on this post – a little mystery – you can see a certain fragrant regular forgets to change her name with her alter-ego?

Not sure what it portends…!

https://frankreport.com/2018/10/07/prosecutions-latest-filing-portends-big-problems-for-raniere-et-al/

Nutjob
Nutjob
4 years ago

The best thing about this article is that Frank didn’t exaggerate at all. He didn’t have to. This is exactly how it went down. Crazy shit.

I’ll add one thing – Keith was careful to only tell people about their past lives if he knew they’d believe him. He knew how to vet.

About the Author

Frank Parlato is an investigative journalist.

His work has been cited in hundreds of news outlets, like The New York Times, The Daily Mail, VICE News, CBS News, Fox News, New York Post, New York Daily News, Oxygen, Rolling Stone, People Magazine, The Sun, The Times of London, CBS Inside Edition, among many others in all five continents.

His work to expose and take down NXIVM is featured in books like “Captive” by Catherine Oxenberg, “Scarred” by Sarah Edmonson, “The Program” by Toni Natalie, and “NXIVM. La Secta Que Sedujo al Poder en México” by Juan Alberto Vasquez.

Parlato has been prominently featured on HBO’s docuseries “The Vow” and was the lead investigator and coordinating producer for Investigation Discovery’s “The Lost Women of NXIVM.” Parlato was also credited in the Starz docuseries "Seduced" for saving 'slave' women from being branded and escaping the sex-slave cult known as DOS.

Additionally, Parlato’s coverage of the group OneTaste, starting in 2018, helped spark an FBI investigation, which led to indictments of two of its leaders in 2023.

Parlato appeared on the Nancy Grace Show, Beyond the Headlines with Gretchen Carlson, Dr. Oz, American Greed, Dateline NBC, and NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt, where Parlato conducted the first-ever interview with Keith Raniere after his arrest. This was ironic, as many credit Parlato as one of the primary architects of his arrest and the cratering of the cult he founded.

Parlato is a consulting producer and appears in TNT's The Heiress and the Sex Cult, which premiered on May 22, 2022. Most recently, he consulted and appeared on Tubi's "Branded and Brainwashed: Inside NXIVM," which aired January, 2023.

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