Allison Mack Is a Guilty Felon
By: Seeking Justice for Victims
I’m not buying this load of crap that Allison has no responsibility in her actions. Allison chose each action she did for her Master and at any time could have said, as others had before her:
“NOPE, NOT GOING TO DO IT. I WILL STAND TALL AND TAKE WHAT YOU THROW AT ME, BUT I WON’T BE A CRIMINAL FOR YOU.”
Would it not be a better outcome for her had she done that?
Now, she will also be known as a federal criminal and Keith Raniere’s “Madam.” She will wear his brand into a federal prison and will have plenty of time to think about her evil deeds.
Allison had several chances to get out of NXIVM long before her arrest. Several times she chose to believe her Master instead of taking in any other DATA that is out there. Much like those who are still “The Believers.”
Did Mack check out why they left and why the Tacoma Nxivm Center where she had trained at closed its door suddenly?
NOPE, she followed her Master Keith Raniere long before DOS was even born.
HE RAPED THEM.
Allison Mack chose to believe her Master Keith Raniere. Once again, instead of taking in any DATA other than what she wanted to believe was a reality. Again, this was long before DOS was born.
Third – Allison is introduced to Keith Rainier’s alternate lifestyle when it comes to sexual relationships.
Allison Mack started to have sex with Raniere knowing he has sex with many women, but she can only have sex with him. Hum… what kind of woman agrees to this kind of “one way, he “gets-it-all” kind of relationship?
One who is looking for something she thinks is missing? How can she get it from the external world if she is following NXIVM’s so-called “Tech”?
Fourth – let’s talk about the news articles about how Keith Raniere had plotted with Emiliano Salinas to have four women lured to Mexico, arrested on false charges, imprisoned, tortured and then “disappeared”?
Allison Mack choose to believe her Master Keith Raniere instead of taking any DATA that he was a dangerous man
Fifth – Allison becomes the kind of woman who is willing to do anything for her man. Regardless of anything that pulls her into “hey this guy is nuts” direction, Allison ignores all the red flags coming from her gut. Allison decides to step over the line and become a criminal.
A criminal for what purpose? She was getting paid as a head trainer. Those who were in NXIVM know if you upset the Master, such things as a head trainer are taken away from you.
Since Mack chose to give up her acting career, what options did she leave herself to make that kind of money and have that kind of power within NXIVM?
Me three – Allison Mack joined Dani Padilla to enjoy threesomes with her glorious Vanguard. Was that because she was coerced?Mack was in the same boat as Lauren Salzman. If you leave, you lose your income and your “family,” the Nxivm community. You might even get sued, as many who left had been. Who wants to work at the Cheese Cake Factory like many in NXIVM did when they could no longer work within NXIVM or for Clare Bronfman?
Six – Raniere got arrested, and Allison Mack did not go to the FBI upon returning from Mexico. She decided to wait for herself to get arrested. Once arrested, Mack waited a very long time before making a plea deal with the DOJ.
• Her lawyers knew the first on the plea bus get the best deal.
• Her lawyers knew this was a RICO case and the government was not going to spend the money on two trials
• It was never Clare Bronfman’s responsibility to pay for Allison Mack’s defense
• The judge held a special Curcio hearing, and Allison Mack told the judge she was happy with her defense team. Now Mack wants to be a crybaby about how the DOJ handled her deal. WTF?
If I work for a mob boss and I shot a guy in the back of the head because I fear for my family or my own life, I’m still breaking the law. I have refused to look at what my options are other than murder the guy for my boss. It’s still murder. NXIVM teaches a class to take a look at what all your options are.
Mack had the tool of looking at what all her options were throughout her time in NXIVM in her toolbox.
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Bad News!!!!!!!
Bad news for all of the Allison Mack haters on this thread……
All of the Nxivm plea bargainers are going to do no more time than Clare Bronfman’s plea deal.
Wake up!!!!
Clare Bronfman bought herself and indirectly her co-defendants a sweet deal.
Sorry guys and girls no defendant is doing more than 3 years…..
Ask Krclaviger…….
I wouldn’t be surprised.
If you look at the Jeffrey Epstein pedophile case, a case where at least eighty (80) teen aged girls were molested by a rich politically influential child molester, all of the women who pimped for Epstein were given a total pass.
And there were at least five or six women who pimped for Jeffrey Epstein.
The Jeffrey Epstein case may be the most egregious example of federal government corruption ever.
The case makes crazy conspiracies such as pizza-gate seem plausible……
Epstein should have been looking at a 20 year sentence or at the very least 10 years.
Jeffrey Epstein’s plea bargain was a sad day for the American Justice System.
I don’t think KAR chose to have an alcoholic mother who would turn him into a narcissistic sociopath. At what point does anyone become responsible for their behavior?
At the point of doing what they do.
That’s all that’s being judged.
What they do.
I’ve read that his mother wasn’t an alcoholic and was actually a good mother. Who knows what the truth is, but that was a statement from Keith’s father in , I think, the Observer article about Clare and Sara Bronfman.
And I think he was just born a narcissistic sociopath.
Here are the facts, she confessed to criminal activity. She gained from that activity. Body mutilation with AM initials, recording Allison agreeing with the process of branding. Victims describing forced labor and service. Human captivity and starvation through blackmail. She was 2nd in command. This is what the judge and jury will look at my guess. The length of time to be served will depend on how intensely Allison enforced and planned the treatment of her members, and suffering caused. India Oxenberg’s story will be the point of interest since it was her fate that started the national interest in this case IMO. Either way, Allison will have time to think of her actions and hopefully change.
I don’t see the AM initials, I think it was a slip of the cauterizing pen and/or scar tissue that healed unevenly. The jury isn’t involved in the sentencing, it is soley the judge. National attention started with Edmondson’s scar picture on the NYT.
I would say Oxenburg telling her story on talks shows really made it a national or even international news . Having a celebs kid involved put a victims face and story easy to relate to IMO for the casual viewer. Of course court junkies were well informed by then.
You are talking about Ms i know everything despite the fact that my daughter wasn’t talking to me for years (before the end of DOS°…
Ms I Don’t take responsability for leaving my kid in Something i considered myself a cult (and this was way back before DOS)
That’s your proof? Sorry but i still prefer to Believe the real expert, those in court.
And it’s a fact, It wasn’t Allison’s Initial! (read the court document)
In short Allison Mack is as guilty as sin.
nope but you are as ding as a bat
You are so stupid…
First :She confessed where? the plea deal? it was written by prosecution and accepted by Allison, Only the Allocution is hers.
AM initials have been DISPROVED IN COURT!
The recording Don’t demonstrate that she agreed with anything…rather that Raniere made ALL THE DECISIONS
And Labor was provided by Allison too…yet, she isn’t seen as a victim of forced labor.
Human captivity? She wasn’t part of that ! instead of wildly accusing, READ THE COURT DOCUMENTS
Starvation? She was Under the SAME conditions.
She wasn’t 2nd in command, that is CLEARLY PROVED (read the court documents, again)
“Allison enforced and planned the treatment of her members, and suffering caused. India Oxenberg’s story will be the point of interest since it was her fate that started the national interest in this case IMO. Either way, Allison will have time to think of her actions and hopefully change.”
Where to start…Oh i know, nowhere as you say Nothing interesting and twist fact.
All you have accused her of as been disproved in court. but please, continue to show the level of your lack of knowledge (on the subject) and/or your stupidity!
Could be but in these cults people get more and more drawn in and the cause and its supposed goodness triumphs (in their head) over the law of the land just as a Catholic may not perform a lawful abortion or you might abandon your family to join a cause (as Jesus suggested and many many others including Chairman Mao in his day). They end up thinking the ends justify the means – such as the rajneeshis and poisoning in Oregon to help ensure they won an election.
People get sucked in bit by bit for the “greater good”.
That is one reason I am delighted all my children often have totally different views from each other and from me in part because I have ensured they are exposed to loads of different views, have a very good education and can think for themselves and not always follow the herd of people who are around them.
Equating not doing an abortion to statutory rape is an interesting analogy. Jesus was a one-time, special case. Of coure, if you don’t believe He was the Son of God, then He was just another guy wanting you to follow Him. Thinking a scam or cult can’t happen to you or those you think are smart isn’t very smart. Most of the time, the herd doesn’t follow cults and scams, it’s just a very small percentage of those around them that do, that’s why cults and scams are so small in numbers.
“That is one reason I am delighted all my children often have totally different views from each other and from me in part because I have ensured they are exposed to loads of different views, have a very good education and can think for themselves and not always follow the herd of people who are around them.”
I applaud you Jane! There should be many more parents like you!
Is Allie any more or less a victim than Lauren? We heard a solid chunk of Lauren’s story directly from her at trial. I’ll be the first to admit, I was rattled to my core with sympathy and empathy and all the other “thys” when I read her testimony here and in other news platforms. In fact, the judge risked a mistrial because he “is a human” and didn’t want her to have a nervous breakdown in his court room.
They believed that doing bad shit dictate by the “most ethical man in the world meant that they were pure.
I didn’t have any sympathy for Salzman at all, because at the trial she was put through a tiny fraction of what she put others through.
Art from MK10
Allison Mack in Ecstasy after her three way sex with Keith Raniere and Dani Padilla.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzG4k3VhA5x/
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#AllisonMack writes an email containing her euphoric epiphanies after enjoying a threesome with #Nxivm leader #KeithRaniere and Dani Padilla:
“i arrived home and looked at myself in the mirror and what i saw was such beauty and grace.
i am new to this:
to being with more than one person.
to exploring and experimenting with my body and others in a free and open way.
to sharing and releasing and relaxing and enjoying.
the level of vulnerability is high and i feel nervous and insecure.
but when i am with you two something changes. i not only feel allowed to face this vulnerability with encouragement, i laugh my way through it.”
Does that sound like Allison Mack was abused?
Well it does actually sound like what the other victim wrote and therefor, If they were abused, seem to me like she was too!
But that, of course i going WAY over your head.
Allison Mack is a victim/criminal in a similar way that News paper heires Patty Hearst was over 40+ years ago.
Hearst was the daughter of America’s most successful newspaper publisher when she was kidnapped. Eventually she would suffer from Stockholm syndrome or “brain washing” or coercion, take your pick……
…… And end up taking part in a bank robbery.
Hearst committed crimes and had to be held responsible regardless of her extenuating circumstances. Allison Mack is the same boat.
One hell of a dichotomy to be stuck in. Victimhood and villainy…….
Why don’t you shed tears for the victims of NXIVM instead of that monster of a woman Allison Mack?
No Sympathy for the Devil!
Shadowstate,
I do feel bad for the victims.
I believe whatever Allison next motivations should still be held accountable for her actions.
She should certainly be punished.
Allison Mack is not the antichrist.
shadow but you forget a little detail.
and that is that most of the victims as you call them, did not show up to testify about KAR or Allison, and that is because most of them are still drinking KAR’s Kool-aid or they walked away because of shame, so that you can NOT talk about the victims without taking into account that the victims of allison are ultimately like Allison victims of KAR, and I bet you that regardless of what is said in this blog or in other media, most of them do not they blame allison more than they blame themselves, because in the end that is the truth KAR really did not force anyone to give the guarantee or to believe in these ideas.
Except that in Hearst case, she really committed a serious crime…
Allison , not so sure.
The collateralization as to be accounted both way!
Did she really had any other choice but to do what she was asked?
Even some of the other victim committed the same crime but nobody consider that they deserve to pay the bill…Only Allison has!
How do you justify this? you should have used your notniceguy alias for this post…
Patty Hearst not 2nd command. Big difference here
Allison Mack was not the second in command ask that question to Frank Parlato.
She was an order taker who had no autonomy to act alone without getting the OK from vanguard.
Allison Mack had the autonomy everyone has to either not join a cult or to leave a cult as soon as possible.
Allison Mack chose to stay and become an abuser of others because she enjoyed exercising power over other women.
Allison Mack had the autonomy that everyone has not to join a cult or to leave a cult as soon as possible.
interesting shadow point of view, so everyone had the autonomy not to join a cult and get away. interesting point of view that. EVERYONE could leave the cult whenever they wanted.
and then you say you’re not obsessed with allison.
Except Allison Mack was never kidnapped to begin with.
NOT handsome. At all. Gross actually.
Allison had been on house arrest for over a year, which really is punishment in itself. She should just get probation and some community service.
I doubt that her victims would agree with you, and I’m certain that the judge won’t.
I can see that you are coming from a compassionate place, and I respect that, but the crimes she has committed are crimes that justify a custodial sentence.
A custodial sentence is the norm for blackmail cases, and she blackmailed a lot of people.
Justice has to be done for the victims.
20 years minimum.
“she blackmailed a lot of people.”
Allison Mack might have blackmailed as many as 150 women and she collected new blackmail from each and every woman every month.
Max
Real punishment for Allison Mack would mean being forced to watch this video over and over and over and over again for five straight years morning, noon and night.
Lol! Pretty funny, Shadow..
I hope that someday Ally Wack comes to realize how clownish her obsequious behavior appears.
House arrest doesn’t count for prison time.
not if you live in a trailer.
I agree, Especially seeing how cooperative she was with the prosecution since the beginning
The prosection, on the other hand, was not cooperative…i remember the prosecution being scolded (back in september,last year) for not transmitting the change of date for the hearing to Allison…nope, it was an accident! not trying to make her lose her bail.
You use the example of shooting someone in the head. In manipulating Daniela’s mother, Raniere used the example of killing a child. Daniela did not kill a child, and Mack did not shoot anyone in the head.
Dianne,
Of course she didn’t murder anyone no one is saying she did. How silly of you.
Not all DOS salves broke the law or pimped out women for Keith Raniere either.
Allison Mack is a criminal who pleaded guilty to some of her crimes. Now she has to pay the price.
House arrest with her parents and a swimming pool in L.A. California hardly mades up for what Mack has done to her victims. She was Raniere’s #1.
Other charges could come up for her in the NDNY. Mack had/has a sham marriage that allows Nicki Clyne to remain in the US.
you certainly are right not everyone in DOS broke the law, but you KNOW that if they did, the only thing we know is that some people like india oxemberg were accused but then they were given a free pass and we do not know any more since the women of DOS they were silent or they are still faithful to KAR
“Allison Mack with her Vanguard Keith Alan Raniere discussing collateral. [Another gem by MK10ART”
That painting is priceless.
I Laughed my ass-off and was disgusted concurrently.
I have never experienced nausea and laughter at the same time. Thank you 🙂
In her own words under oath:
“I now realize that I and others engaged in criminal conduct. My misguided beliefs and dedication of what I believed were the principles underlying NXIVM, Keith Raniere’s teachings, resulted in my agreeing to support the criminal enterprise that is alleged in the indictment.”
“I encouraged Jane Doe 5 and Jane Doe 8 to deliver this collateral to me, through my participation in a scheme that was designed to instill in them a fear that if the property was not delivered, we would expose collateral previously given to the organization, which could have been embarrassing and personally damaging to themselves or others, if released.”
“From in or about October 2015 to June 2017, within the Northern District of New York, the Eastern District of New York, and elsewhere, I knowingly and intentionally obtained the labor and services in the form of so called acts of care from Jane Doe 5 and Jane Doe 8.”
“Acts of care included having these women perform services for me. I obtained these labor and services from Jane Doe 5 and Jane Doe 8 through, among other things, being part of a scheme, namely DOS, designed to make them believe that if they did not perform the requested acts of care, they could suffer serious harm.”
20 years, minimum.
Except that the trial failed to prove this and therefor , she is not supposed to be guilty…
BTW guideline sentence are recommendation by prosecution, lowlife…
So it’s 3 to 5 for them and hopefully WAY less as she is clearly a victim.
Moron!
The trial doesn’t have to prove it, Mack admitted her guilt. She was both a victim and a perp. Because of multiple crimes and instances, hopefully her sentence will be long, but she is a first-time offender, so perhaps this judge will just treat her to a lunch in the court cafeteria.
I agree 100%.
20 years minimum.
I agree 25%
5 years maximum.
To LaLa – this thread is reserved for people named Paul.
i kinda like the visual of samepaul speaking outta both sides of mouth but … could be two pauls in succession
coincidence? <==there are none