There were enough evidence and testimony in the trial of Keith Alan Raniere to lead 12 average American jurors to vote to convict the world’s smartest man on all counts and predicate acts charged against him – and to do so after less than 5 hours of deliberations.
Some of the evidence revealed in the trial will likely be used in the ongoing investigation and probable future case against the Bronfman-Raniere crime syndicate AKA Nxivm.
Some of the evidence needs to be further analyzed. Frank Report proposes to do some of that analysis for our readers’ information and entertainment, especially for those studying the case.
This will help readers ascertain some interesting and curious things – including some things that might help people come to terms with their own victimization and, in other instances, provide information for people who might wish to send letters to Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis concerning the sentencing of Keith Alan Raniere, Clare Webb Bronfman, Nancy Salzman, Kathy Russell, Lauren Salzman, and Allison Mack.
By the way – sentencing dates are:
Nancy Salzman – July 10 (11:00 AM)
Clare Bronfman – July 25 (2:30 PM)
Kathy Russell – July 31st
Lauren Salzman – September 11 (11:00 AM)
Allison Mack – September 11 (12:00 Noon)
Keith Raniere – September 25
Some of the evidence may point to the possible guilt of others in the Bronfman-Raniere racketeering enterprise. And provide additional evidence of new crimes by some who have already been convicted.
Some evidence [gems from the trial] are interesting, salacious or fun – little known facts about Vanguard and his minions.
Some of it might engender sympathy for some of those who have been portrayed as villains – and some evidence about some who are declared as victims might suggest they were perpetrating crimes themselves.
This may help in ascertaining the fine, grey lines of distinction between victims and victimizers – so often seen in this case. It may be true that there is only one, pure 100 percent victimizer – Raniere.
All the others may be a combination of victim/victimizer in varying degrees and some who are just plain victims. It is worthy to explore this and “Gems from the Trial” hopes to aid in this.
And to aid in clarity, for study and as a caution – so this kind of cult – wherever it exists – is identified and taken down in the future.
The first “gem” – an email from Allison Mack concerning a threesome she enjoyed with Raniere and Daniela Padilla – is salacious. Yet I think it raises an important point: Mack was much denigrated at trial and in media reports. She was shown as a villain in the trial.
But this email shows her in a different light.
Lauren Salzman came out more as a victim than Allison. That is largely because she testified for the prosecution. Allison was never called [more on that later] so we only have others’ accounts of her role – mainly DOS slaves, Jaye’s and Nicole’s – who were in Allison’s slave pod – and the picture they paint of her is not pretty.
But here is an email – in real time – showing Allison in what appears to be a mood of sincerity – in the midst of her involvement in DOS [before it blew up].
It is not dispositive but it tends to suggest Allison was sincere and that DOS to her was not about hurting other women. It was, at least in part, what she claimed it to be – a learning experience for her and, by extension, for those she recruited.
Mack wrote the email [it was shown to the jury] to Keith Raniere. The date was March 4, 2016. It was after DOS had been in operation about six or seven months.
Allison had just had a threesome with Raniere and another of his collateralized DOS slaves, Dani Padilla. [This is not the same Dani who testified about her confinement in a room for nearly two years.]
It was a morning session. It may not have been her first encounter with these two. [Dani was the DOS slave that ordered paddles, hanging cages, butt plugs, and other items from an online sex toy store for DOS in 2017.]
Here is Allison’s email:
On Friday, March 4, 2016 10:19 AM, Allison Mack <allison@nxian.net> wrote [to keithraniere@yahoo.com]
i wanted to reach out to you both and thank you for this morning.
i arrived home and looked at myself in the mirror and what i saw was such beauty and grace.
i am new to this:
to being with more than one person.
to exploring and experimenting with my body and others in a free and open way.
to sharing and releasing and relaxing and enjoying.
the level of vulnerability is high and i feel nervous and insecure.
but when i am with you two something changes. i not only feel allowed to face this vulnerability with encouragement, i laugh my way through it.
i feel such gratitude for you both. you are the most dear souls to me and i feel such motivation to get better in every area of my life so i can provide even half the joy and satisfaction you have been able to introduce to my life.
i fight with my viscera sometimes – the unconventional approach to love and relationships is something i still wrestle with. but your care and commitment makes it so much easier. and what i find on the other side of this struggle is beyond what i ever imagined.
i am so glad to be tied to you for life.
i feel dedicated, eternally, to growing myself into a more loving, more kind, more generous, sensitive and genuine woman – even if it is only to be able to keep up with the two of you in the bedroom. 🙂
i love that i smell like a mixture of you both. i hold your love in my heart, it is obvious from the shine of my eyes.
“from wrong lead me to right.
from darkness lead me to light.
from death lead me to immortality”
within the shackles of commitment i find the greatest freedom of all. true love.
XO
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Let us review what Allison wrote, to try to ascertain what is going on.
Whether she is a pure monster, a foolish woman with good intentions, a mix of both, a victim, or maybe the world’s most misunderstood, sincere student who may have had the world’s most selfish and unenlightened teacher, is hard to say.
Her email is in bold – my comments follow in regular typeface.
i wanted to reach out to you both and thank you for this morning
Allison had what is likely an early morning sex session with Dani and Keith. Keith likes early morning, the predawn time. While his slaves generally had to rise, get up and go to work during the day [and by night he would awaken them with readiness drills] Keith would go to bed in mid-to-late morning and get his full seven or eight hours of uninterrupted sleep – in order to be able to begin again in the evening and into the early morning with his sleep-deprived [and undernourished] slaves.
This has been his lifestyle for years.
Threesomes have been his lifestyle for decades. Pam Cafritz used to arrange them and participate in them with him. Among his codefendants, Lauren Salzman testified that she participated in threesomes with Raniere. And Dani [the woman confined in the room] testified she had threesomes [albeit reluctantly] with Keith and Kathy Russell.
So, in this case, this was not Allison trying introduce threesomes to Keith, but vice versa.
Keith found one of his sex slaves – Dani Padilla – who evidently likes BDSM – to join them. Dani Padilla, according to testimony at trial, evidently had threesomes with Keith for years with various other women.
Dani Padilla was in Raniere’s inner circle and in his harem for years before DOS.
In reviewing Allison’s email, it is not clear if this is her first experience with Keith and Dani in an intimate encounter. Allison seems exhilarated and is trying to learn from it. Keith is very likely trying to persuade her that this is a learning experience – something a perv might say whether he believed it or not.
i arrived home and looked at myself in the mirror and what i saw was such beauty and grace.
Allison found this something warm and beautiful. It was not just pure lust but something she thinks improved her. She saw beauty and grace.
i am new to this: to being with more than one person.
We will take Allison at her word, She is writing to her master, her Vanguard. She would, it seems to me, likely to be telling the truth. This is something he is introducing to her – threesomes. Sex with him and another woman.
to exploring and experimenting with my body and others in a free and open way.
Allison revels in words like “exploring”, “experimenting,” in a “free” and “open” way. She is seeking freedom, not just some horny perversion, she claims. This is not typical lust-driven experience – or if it was, she is trying to mask it as something elegant and beautiful.
to sharing and releasing and relaxing and enjoying.
These are pleasant words, “sharing,” releasing,” “relaxing,” “enjoying.” These are not words of predators or, for that matter, victims.
the level of vulnerability is high and i feel nervous and insecure.
She admits she is uncomfortable but has placed her trust in Raniere. Yet, she is nervous about joining in threesomes and is insecure.
but when i am with you two something changes. i not only feel allowed to face this vulnerability with encouragement, i laugh my way through it.
She tells her Lord Vanguard – her master – that with his encouragement, she goes beyond fear of being in a threesome with a woman he selected – fellow slave, Dani, who is also encouraging her. Allison also makes an interesting statement: that she “laughs her way through it”; her “vulnerability,” she says, she masks with laughter. She uses humor. Her language does not have any hint of coercion or suffering.
i feel such gratitude for you both. you are the most dear souls to me and i feel such motivation to get better in every area of my life so i can provide even half the joy and satisfaction you have been able to introduce to my life.
She claims gratitude, the virtue of the sublime, and claims to want to become better in every area of her life – not just sex – and that this threesome with these two “dear souls” [not bodies, not people, but “souls”] provided “motivation,” “joy,” “satisfaction.” And it was both of them who introduced to her this joyful, and new experience.
i fight with my viscera sometimes – the unconventional approach to love and relationships is something i still wrestle with.
She has a negative, emotional reaction to not having a monogamous relationship.
but your care and commitment makes it so much easier. and what i find on the other side of this struggle is beyond what i ever imagined.
She fights her natural revulsion, or fear, and has a breakthrough and through it finds something greater than what she ever thought she would know – from sex perhaps, or life in general.
i am so glad to be tied to you for life.
She admits this is her privilege, to be tethered to Keith, to be his slave. She has learned something wonderful about herself.
i feel dedicated, eternally, to growing myself into a more loving, more kind, more generous, sensitive and genuine woman – even if it is only to be able to keep up with the two of you in the bedroom. 🙂
Listen to the language: She is “dedicated eternally.” She is “growing,” “more loving,” “more kind,” “more generous,” “sensitive,” “a genuine woman.” This is not the language of predators or victims. This is the language of a seeker, of a gentle, kindly soul, with good intentions.
Even if it is odd that she equates – jokingly – growing into a “more loving, more kind, more generous, sensitive and genuine woman” only in order to “keep up” with Keith and Dani “in the bedroom”, she hints that this bedroom experience is spiritual. “Keeping up” in this context suggests not necessarily physical stamina.
i love that i smell like a mixture of you both. i hold your love in my heart, it is obvious from the shine of my eyes.
This needs little comment – except that once we get beyond the embarrassing elements of it – she is trying to express love; that it was healing and positive for her. That she has a memory, enhanced by the scent of two people she loves who she was just intimately engaged with, who led her to heights she had not previously imagined.
“from wrong lead me to right.
from darkness lead me to light.
from death lead me to immortality”
Allison is quoting the Pavamana Mantra, from the Hindu scripture, Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣad (1.3.28.). This mantra – which Keith might have taught her – was originally recited as an invocation to the Soma sacrifice. The Soma was purportedly a plant which in Vedic times was a rare tonic and miraculous health-giving plant – with possible psychedelic properties – supposedly a panacea for health and spiritual growth. Today, modern Hindus cannot even identify the Soma plant.
The message Allison invokes, however, is one of knowledge: “From wrong lead me to right.” This is a worthy desire. “From darkness lead me to light.” Does she believe this love-inspired threesome will help her come to the light?
“From death lead me to immortality”. This is a common theme in ritualistic sex, such as Tantric Yoga, which Keith claimed to be a master in. That through sex with various rituals and with spiritual rather than physical focus – a being can go beyond their body and become immortal.
It may be utter hogwash, but this is what Keith taught – perhaps merely to get women into threesomes.
Still, here we have Allison Mack leaving a threesome, writing about it to Keith, expressing exuberance and spiritual thoughts.
within the shackles of commitment i find the greatest freedom of all. true love.
XO
This seems to be some of Raniere’s word salad: Slavery is freedom. Shackles are true love. Pain is love. The same mind-fucking by which he ultimately fucked himself.
Allison is saying that, for her, her greatest freedom is “true love.” She says she is finding it through him. Allison does not look like an evil-doer here. At worst, you can say she joined her kink-master in a threesome – and seemed to enjoy it, and found something in her brain or her heart from it that she thought was spiritual.
She would later admit, when she made her allocution at her plea hearing, that she was wrong about Raniere. She thought he was good when, in reality, she learned he was evil. But that was April 2019.
This is in real time, March 4, 2016. Raniere and DOS were at their pinnacle then.
As for Raniere, it’s hard to say what he thought. Did he have any fragment of his being focused on actually helping the women he held in thrall, or was he always manipulating them fully?
Was he preying on Allison’s weakness? Her desire to be a better, more spiritual person – to become enlightened, as she thought he was – a unified soul?
Was Raniere secretly enjoying mind-fucking a gullible woman into thinking his perv activities were guiding her to enlightenment?
He may not have been the world smartest man, but it is clear that his “little head” did some pretty good thinking. It seems to have gotten him everything he wanted for quite some time. He had scores of beautiful women who accommodated him – a rather mediocre looking man – repulsive to many – and had them thinking it was a great spiritual achievement to be with him.
He even had some of them coming out of threesomes quoting Hindu scriptures.
As for Allison Mack, her life is in shambles. Ruined. From great worldly success and fame to going to prison later this year in total ignominy.
But what if she really, truly did it all with the goal of being a better person, a more genuine woman, a more spiritual one, a woman who wanted to go from wrong to right, darkness to light, death to immortality, and the man she chose to lead her led her to darkness, to wrong, to death almost?
If that is true, is she not then at least in part a victim?
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Keith looks like a gorilla in the last photo of this article. I wouldn’t go near him if he were the last man on earth.
yah, pretty much the gorilla look is not something one would want to flaunt or draw a visual parallel. But, then again, there you have it.
So what if Mack is in part a victim? Everyone on Earth is in part a victim. Keith Raniere is in part a victim, I suppose, if one looks hard enough. I’m sure there’s some element in his past life that could be worked up as a partial excuse for what he became. A mean kid at school, his mommy yelled at him once, his dog bit him. To quote a line from a movie, excuses are like assholes, everybody has one.
So what if she was sincere? Wife beaters sincerely think the old lady deserved it. Guys who go into work with a gun and shoot up the place sincerely think that’s what the world deserves for pissing them off.
Allison Mack is a fool, I’ll grant that. She had great ambitions to make a difference, to change the world. Well, in her incompetent messed-up way she kinda succeeded, she made a difference in a bunch of women’s lives. The ones she branded sure will never be the same; talk about leaving your mark!
As for her e-mail, it is a fawning, obsequious message to the man she stupidly obsessed over for years. Yes, OBSEQUIOUS. As in DOS, Dominus Obsequious Sororium. The word means groveling obedience, and that’s precisely what she’s demonstrating in that humiliating, embarrassing e-mail. The kind of obedience demanded of a slave. On her knees, supplicating, desperate to please, aching to say the exact words he wants to hear. It’s revolting.
Here’s a woman desperate to have a place in her man’s world. She’ll do anything, literally anything to please him, including sharing his bed in a threesome. The kind of person who is utterly subservient to her leader, offering unquestioning obedience, even (as she admits) if it goes against her gut. Even if she knows it’s wrong, she will do it. All she wants to be is subservient to her man, to her guru, to her leader.
I don’t have to remind people of the terrible history of people mindlessly following their leader. Abandoning their own instincts in service to him. Unquestioningly following his teachings, his “new ethical system”.
Keith Raniere was looking for exactly this kind of female servility. Unquestioning, eager obsequiousness. Mack was bright enough to know what her “friend and guru” wanted, and this e-mail is her giving it to him. Right after whatever disgusting acts she had just performed for him in his greasy sweaty bed. Rainiere seems to have obsessed over this sick ideal of bending women to his will, of making them beg for it. In the branding “ceremony” he wanted the women to beg to be branded– something straight out of bad BDSM porn, where the bound girl is made to say “thank you master” each time the fat guy with the whip applies a stroke.
So I find nothing of the quest for true love or spiritual fulfillment in this icky e-mail. On the contrary, it illustrates the worst kind of servility, an utter lack of human dignity or self-respect. There’s nothing inspiring about a person on her knees groveling in front of another. Mack is disgusting. She’s a liar, a self-deceiving fool, a craven coward, soulless, clueless, self-centered and without a shred of human decency. She belongs in prison for what she did and that, fortunately, is exactly where she’s headed.
when Mack gets out of prison she can play the Edie Falco role in the porn version of the SOPranos…with Mark Hildreth playing Tony. He should be fat and bald by then, and hungry for work.
Are you implying that Kreuk gets them to swallow her stories by her swallowing their….?
Mack seems to be one who often expressed herself effusively. She might even have a histrionic personality disorder. Her ability to put lipstick on a pig and to represent it with flowery language made her an effective recruiter and pimpstress, too. However, her personality characteristics might not be much of an indicator of sincerity. Do you think that cheerleaders mean it when they strut around hollering?
Mack, like most of Creepboy’s chattel, was duty-bound to advocate for him, to serve him and to declare endless gratitude to him. So her thank-you note to him about the threesome could be seen as part and parcel of how she thought she was expected to act. She had to keep her place in the In Crowd. She kept showing her neediness (like a bottomless pit) to fit in and to be pleasing. Like a good little lost lamb who was being rescued, she was SUPPOSED to praise and to deify Raniere and his behavior. It was de rigueur.
I do find her thank-you note to Guru Perv and the very unattractive Padilla to be an incredibly thick-skulled and comically vulgar misapplication of etiquette. Not that Allison Mack would notice, but she wrote to thank two ugly freaks for screwing her. Did the 2 ugly freaks send her thank-you notes, too?
That dude is nasty!!! I just can’t begin to wrap my head around this.
I normally am sympathetic to victims of cults, but I believe Allison Mack is far more a perpetrator than a victim. I say this primarily based on her methodical efforts to ingratiate others into DOS, and a few other reasons. Most cult members are sectioned off from society to some degree, but she was not alienated from others or her family. She was able to hold a job (as an actress of all things). She is quite intelligent, and was very adept at hiding this side of her life from others.
She tried to entrap others in the entertainment field, and reached out to them in an effort to joined NXIVM or DOS. She was systematic and purposed her steps in an effort to do so. I don’t know if this is true, but I read she came up with the idea to brand women involved in DOS. That is a very cruel and inhumane thing to do to another human being, and I’m sorry – if this is the case, this cruelty has to be a part of who she is on some level.
I believe Allison Mack was so in love with Keith Raniere, she would do anything for him in order to get his approval. If that meant a threesome, five-some, whatever – she would do it. She was the mastermind behind cutting and branding women with his and her initials into their flesh. She knew it would appeal to his ego – it would score huge points to know women are walking around with his initials. She basically surrendered her life for him and would do anything for his approval – and she did so at the expense of others.
Was she a victim? I think to some degree at first, but with the orchestration of DOS and becoming a slave master, she left the role of victim to become perpetrator. Some of her blog posts indicated that she was aware that she was doing wrong, and feared being found out. She crossed that line and she needs to be held accountable to for what she has done.
You are absolutely right!
Wow a long text for…Nothing.
Read the court document and then come back arguing Mr she did it all.
Her role is the same as the victims.
I find her a hollow human, always “on”…she sent him the “signal” at first meeting during volleyball. I concur, some very dark presence resided inside her, i.e. Master/slaves, punishment, requiring absolute control over her slaves, for effing sakes COLLATERAL & BRANDING AM & KR INITIALS?? ICK!!! What’s so scarey, the number of awakened “predator minded, cruelty, sociopaths” lists of the worst creepy arse behaviors this has been unleashed on the unknowing public. Good night!! Navigating through life is difficult enough, feeling your way around strangers, listening to your inner “alarm” bells. I, as a younger individual found myself mind “f**ked” big time, I was anorexic, confused, & eventually stopped talking. Fortunately I was introduced to a fantastic psychologist, saved me to save myself. From there I refused to ever surrender my thinking, my code of ethics to do no harm…not to be broken, especially by a man. Some people, man and woman are messed up narcissistic characters & best to stay clear. Remember to trust your inner gut, heart..use your brain…if just one of those are screaming “NO”..don’t go there. Be safe, take care..they come in all shapes & sizes.
Because Nicki Clyne is boring and is average looking unlike Kreuk or Mack. She obviously likes fucking old guys who are cult leaders and isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. And no one obviously cares about her non-acting talent stint on Battle Star Craptallica.
“Because Nicki Clyne is boring and is average looking unlike Kreuk or Mack.”
Kreuk is exotic looking but Mack is not a classically beautiful actress.
Mack is not in the same class of beauty as Audrey Hepburn or Natalie Portman.
That said many women can do well with looks like Allison Mack if they are intelligent or have nice personalities.
The problem is that Allison Mack is not intelligent and her personality is horrible.
What man or woman would want a relationship with Allison Mack after it is common knowledge that Mack fabricates stories about child molestation?
What person would want to be friends with Allison Mack after she deceives people about the sex slave cult she was managing?
Mack’s branding of women demonstrates a sadistic streak in Allison Mack that is most troubling.
The cankles, remember to always mention Mack’s cankles.
OOOOh so that’s why you hate Allison!
Then just leave her alone and get crazy over KK…
Low life!
Oh and have you consider gardening? you are still due to find Something more healthy than an obsession on a VICTIM that could be your daughter (but she was luckily not…i hope you Don’t have kids but if you do , i feel sorry for them having to have you in their life)
That last photo of Raniere is revolting. You can tell his hair is unwashed. I’d not seen that one before.
He looks toxic, like he’s been doing drugs, or drinking heavily.
Frank has some explaining to do with that picture. Were you holding out on us, Frank? If you’re also holding back volleyball pictures, I’ll be really pissed.
Why Allison Mack was a Victim!
A Victim of the White Patriarchy!
A Victim of the Deplorable Donald J. Trump!
We’re living in the Handmaid’s Tale!
We’re living in the Theocracy of Gilead!
Allison Mack needs Reparations!
Give Allison Mack Forty Acres and a Mule.
Allison Mack needs a long prison sentence with some psychiatric support.
She isn’t crazy enough to plead insanity, but she isn’t sane enough to be released.
She needs to go to prison, and get some psychiatric help which SHE should pay for, if she has the money.
She clearly needs to go to prison.
The problem is that Allison Mack has so many fans and sob sisters who will vehemently argue on her behalf.
“She’s just a poor helpless woman. A victim. Boo Hoo Hoo.”
And I suppose that many NXIVM trolls, the remnant of that pathetic cult, are rallying around Allison Mack’s cause.
What about Patty Hearst Shadowstate?
Cannot an individual be a victim and a criminal simultaneously?
“Cannot an individual be a victim and a criminal simultaneously?”
No more than one can be an idiot and the world’s third smartest man simultaneously.
Allison Mack is merely trying top cloak herself in victimhood to save her butt from a longer prison term.
Victimhood is the last refuge of a scoundrel like Allison Mack.
I was around the same age as Patty when she was kidnapped. I followed the entire horror show, I was shocked that the law enforcers arrested her and how unjust the system was/is….why punish her for being kidnapped & terrified beyond comprehension…fortunately she had a family and I hope a content life.
Sounds like Executive Success Programs, specifically Ranieri/DOS, has helped groom Allison Mack to continue making movies in the porn industry after her release from prison. So much for women’s empowerment and being in a “bad ass bitches” club.
Recalling her fawning all over Raniere in her “interview” with him, then her a cappella ballad that she sang for him; her foolishness after Raniere’s conviction is magnified even more. I feel sorry for her to some degree, but her choices have consequences.
“her choices have consequences.”
Well said!
With Freedom come Responsibilities.
And the porn industry is booming in the San Fernando Valley and elsewhere.
Anyone with a decent video camera and computer and an internet connection can become a porn producer.
Many porn producers are women who perform in the industry like Jenna Jameson or Stormy Daniels.
This situation can unleash Allison’s entrepreneurial spirit and lead her to her true calling.
Ewe! He looks like Ron Jeremy! I bet that smell is a combination of feet, fish, garlic or something called ‘budisy’ but, ass and p***y.
A comment below asked why Nicki Clyne has avoided the ire of the Frank Report, and I suspect it is because Clyne lacks a dedicated die-hard stalker. And without a die-hard stalker whipping up a feeding frenzy for Clyne and doing the leg work for Frank, what you get is nothing. Since Frank apparently has no personal vendetta against Clyne or attraction to her (although he once wrote of his respect for her), Frank apparently would rather spend his precious time pouring over an email looking for ways to paint Mack in a better light or maybe just getting himself a little . . .
If you would ask Nicki Clyne, she would say that I am her stalker.
But I am not.
Calling a critic a “stalker” is a standard NXIVM answer for everything.
But Keith is not weak.
Of course. And that’s why he hides in the bathroom and in the closet.
Yeah, hiding in bathrooms is a classic subtle show of strength – not….
That actually points to something interesting, he was the ultimate covert victim-player, working his claimed “sensitivity” to manipulate others into catering and even pandering to him, partly by getting them to take more than their fair share of responsibility while he shirked his.
And he was the ultimate parasite, living off of his women and their wealth – or by defrauding others.
Pea Onyu:
I know you have the leadership qualities to rebuild the NXIVM organization.
And with your Vanguard and his Chief Acolyte Allison Mack as victims of an Oppressive State you can recast NXIVM as a church, a religious organization fighting for the freedom of all people to express themselves sexually.
Keith and Allison can be the Martyrs for Sexual Freedom.
For the Freedom of consenting adults to beat each other with whips and chains.
For the Freedom to starve and paddle recalcitrant slaves.
For the Freedom to let your Freak Flags Fly.
Instead of having votive candles the Church of NXIVM can use cauterizing pens.
It seems the Church of NXIVM already has a foothold in Mexico.
Stay strong Pea!
NXIVM is counting on you.
Excellent article about AM. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/how-smallvilles-allison-mack-went-actress-sex-cult-slaver-1112107
I’ve always wondered about this part:
‘During dinner, Mack told her guests that “she grew up in a more progressive, uninhibited environment,” recalls Bouchey, trying to make sense of Mack’s later trajectory. “Maybe the more bizarre sexual things didn’t seem so bizarre to her.”‘
Did she have a stranger or even darker background that we’re aware of? Certainly, her apparently dysfunctional first long-term relationship wasn’t exactly promising, and in some ways may even have foreshadowed what she later got into with Raniere.
It’s almost as if we are celebrating a life with no boundaries,
Look at the harm done to all these women.
To Lauren, and Michele, who have a mother, Nancy, who cares more for filthy lucre than she did for her own daughters.
She now leaves not just herself, but Lauren, with a tainted reputation.
It is the responsibility of a parent to guide along the straight and narrow path but not lead them to perdition.
And Allison.
Poor, waif like Allison. Robbed of everything a healthy, normal life should contain.
How many abortions did she undergo? Or Lauren? Even Nancy?
Does Nancy share that also with her daighters?
We all know, within our heart, that to be fully human is to love, and be loved. To be cared for, and secure, within that love.
To be the hearts desire of one person, and one person only.
All these women forgot that and instead listened to a lie.
The tragedy of all this, and it is a tragedy, is lives have been stolen.
No one has the right to steal another’s life. No one.
So how is your fake cult? mr troll(or Ms but usually ,trolls are male pretending to be female).
Tom Welling and Michael Rosenbaum on Allison Mack. Again no mention of Kristin Kreuk. The Metro wrote that Allison testified but what do you expect fron a free newspaper left on trains?
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/23/allison-macks-smallville-co-stars-didnt-know-anything-nxivm-sex-cult-10032810/
“what do you expect from a free newspaper left on trains?”
It should make for good toilet paper if you run out of the good stuff.
Just hope the ink doesn’t run.
Vice recently mentioned Grace Park and Allison Mack. No mention of Kristin Kreuk either. More famous then them both. Get gutter journos to read Frank Report articles on Kreuk.
You would have thought Kruek would have been mentioned before Park. Especially due to Kruek recruiting young girls for Raniere through the girls by design teen website, Threesomes with Mack and Keith, and the report from Pee on you that Keith ravished her body (referring to Kruek). Also due to the fact that Kruek talked Mack into joining Nxivm, telling Mack how great Raniere is.
actually if THE METRO is still being put out by mike bloomberg then i think its pretty telling!!! {misfacts confusions obsfucate }
metro uk <==i clarify my statement bloomberg usta put out the metro free paper in the subway of nyc
Breaking the waves 2
The sentencing dates are:
Nancy Salzman – July 10 (11:00 AM)
Clare Bronfman – July 25 (2:30 PM)
Kathy Russell – July 31st
Lauren Salzman – September 11 (11:00 AM)
Allison Mack – September 11 (12:00 Noon)
Keith Raniere – September 25
The fact that she had collateral in women with a threat to release it isn’t sadistic? What about the 500 calorie a day diet that she put India on? If that’s not sadistic, I don’t know what is. We’re both not admitted in the court document? I think they were.
Allison was well and truly warped by KR. He might have turned her into a sadist, or unleashed those latent tendencies. Mark Vicente mentioned his wife Bonnie had a difficult relationship with Allison as well. I can’t help but wonder that some of her behavior was not her own insecurity, that was deeply twisted by Keith into something else entirely.
I think Mack and Salzman show ample evidence of Stockholm Syndrome, and that this effusive email of Alison’s strongly suggests it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
‘From a psychoanalytic lens, it can be argued that Stockholm syndrome arises strictly as a result of survival instincts. Strentz states, “the victim’s need to survive is stronger than his impulse to hate the person who has created the dilemma.” A positive emotional bond between captor and captive is a “defense mechanism of the ego under stress”.[4] These sentimental feelings are not strictly for show, however. Since captives often fear that their affection will be perceived as fake, they eventually begin to believe that their positive sentiments are genuine. The conception of Stockholm syndrome has grown to include victims of kidnappings or hostage instances, domestic or child abuse, human trafficking, incest, prisoners of war, political terrorism, cult members, concentration camp prisoners, slaves, and prostitutes.[4] It is believed that women are especially prone to developing the condition.[19]
Typically, Stockholm syndrome develops in captives when they engage in “face-to-face contact” with their captors, and when captors make captives doubt the likelihood of their survival by terrorizing them into “helpless, powerless, and submissive” states. This enables captors to appear merciful when they perform acts of kindness or fail to “beat, abuse, or rape” the victims.[4] Ideas like “dominance hierarchies and submission strategies” assist in devising explanations for the illogical reasoning behind the symptoms of those suffering from Stockholm syndrome as a result of any oppressive relationship.[19] Partial activation of the capture-bonding psychological trait may lie behind battered woman syndrome,[20] military basic training, fraternity hazing, and sex practices such as sadism/masochism or bondage/discipline.[21]’
“Stockholm Syndrome” is another excuse to justify torturing and enslaving people.
Does the Virtue Signaling ever stop?
Does anyone take responsibility any more?
If anything we hold women responsible more than in the supposed “good old days,” when they were outright excused for being the weaker sex, less capable, etc. In the Lizzy Borden case of the Victorian era, she was acquitted in part because many people didn’t even think a woman was capable of brutal murder – or, back then, of voting, either.
I think a case like this demonstrates some real quandries regarding striking a balance between holding people accountable, and recognizing that sometimes they are in situations and under pressures when they may do things that they wouldn’t otherwise. Even the military recognizes that soldiers can’t be blamed for things they may say while in enemy captivity and under duress.
How fitting that you posted about Lizzie Borden since you are the blog expert on Whacking It .
There is also a ‘Projection of Hope’ dynamic at play.
“Vangone will make everything ok in the end.”
“He’s the only one who can.”
It’s a type of response that is similar to Stockholm syndrome. She is so caught up in the world in which she lives and the mission, she doesn’t realize her actions have gone beyond acceptable limits.
Or, like Lauren, she instinctively knows her actions are not correct, but chose instead to believe her Vanguard that what they were doing was alright.
The Stockholm Syndrome is usually associated with kidnappings, whereas NXIVM was built upon people choosing to join, but also built upon lies and manipulation, such as love-bombing. I think these concepts explain what happened to Mack more than the Stockholm Syndrome.
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“But what if she really, truly did it all with the goal of being a better person, a more genuine woman, a more spiritual one, a woman who wanted to go from wrong to right, darkness to light, death to immortality, and the man she chose to lead her led her to darkness, to wrong, to death almost?
If that is true, is she not then at least in part a victim?”
It’s not to be proved anymore…The mails (not only this one) show that her goal was to be a better person (she even said that WAY back before Nxivm).
She had a poor opinion of herself , It was not humility but lack of confidence (i know, it’s a contradiction with her being an actress…but to her, Acting was being someone she failed to be in real life.)
She didn’t choose that path, she was dragged into it like all the victims, at a crucial point, a moment they were the weakest.
Remember also 2 things about this email:
– Strict unsafe diet since 2013 and sleep deprivation made her unable to think properly
– Other slaves clearly stated that they had to praise dickhead(raniere) or face a possible punishement…Even the witness had send this kind of (for me) creepy mail.
She isn’t more in part a victim as India, Nicole or any other victim…She is completly a victims.
So abused that she try to rationalize the situation (or make the best of it)
Many victims (for year and without anyone trying to help them) end up finding excuses and defending their victimizers…
Allison was victim of EVERYTHING the other dos slave were scared to be .
-She was beaten (on several occasion if we Believe what was written on your own website,frank)
-She was put to starvation (that is obvious, just look at the pictures)
-She was sleep deprived (ask Nicole for that, she point the testimony where she talk about the Strange game Allison was doing on the Morning)
-She was obviously having sex against her own desire (when you read the mail, why would she talk about vulnerability ,unsecurity or being nervous…She also say ‘i’m struggle with love and relationship’
-She was collateralized (and at an higher level then the other victims)…Who knows what he told them before they were fully collateralized?
It’s highly likely that they didn’t knew what they would have to do once fully collateralized and Allison was really badly collateralized…
She had to choose between accepting the situation or destroying her family.
And before we go with the usual “but she gave them willingly”…no, this isn’t true, Some people in Nxivm saw that he was pushing her to give more collateral as far back as 2013…
For me, it’s clear that she is a full victim or others have to be considered to be victimizer too.
Jaye even admitted she was trying ,herself, to bring (almost) a new Dos Slave (while she knew it was bad).
This mail ,here, is just sad and show the emotional and psychogical distress he was putting her through.
I agree.
OMG. I’m going to vomit. There are women out there that actually had sex with this troll willingly. How do you take enough showers to wash this off? How do you erase the memory? How do you get rid of any DNA remnants he may have left behind. I heard Keith also ordered straight men who had no attraction to men to have sex with each other. Does that make them bisexual?
“OMG. I’m going to vomit. There are women out there that actually had sex with this troll willingly. How do you take enough showers to wash this off?”
Read past Frank Report stories about Vanguard Week, Raniere’s week long birthday party/sex orgy.
Women lined up by the dozen to have sex with their Vanguard.
And there’s one story how Allison Mack only became concerned about contracting Herpes after she had sex with her Vanguard.
And were is the proof of that story? nowhere! like your brain!
This proves Keith was teaching Alison. This is not justice. Allison was being helped. Dani is such a seeet good woman and a teacher too. Allison caves and
Pleads. She’s weak. But Keith will forgive her. He always forgives. He alone knows why he is undergoing this suffering. But he is going it for us.
“Allison”s weak.”
Pea,
Allison is weak because she has no inner core telling her right from wrong.
Allison Mack is a typical New Age Millennial from California whose head is filled with mush.
She has absorbed all of this esoteric Eastern Mysticism and religious clap trap and no longer understands fact from fiction, if she ever did.
Allison Mack regurgitates non-sense about female empowerment while torturing other females.
Allison can virtue signal all she wants but when it comes down to brass tacks Allison committed atrocities against other women because she enjoyed being the Queen Bee of NXIVM.
Allison enjoyed lording it over the other women of NXIVM DOS.
Allison Mack is a control freak who enjoyed bossing other women around.
Allison Mack was on a Power Trip.
For Allison Power was an Aphrodisiac.
And Allison Mack is a Sado-Masochist.
Admit it, Pea.
Allison Mack is a Sado-Masochist.
In what you wrote there is the A+B proof that you’re just a troll.
“In what you wrote there is the A+B proof that you’re just a troll.”
In what you just wrote there is proof that you are a Liberal Totalitarian.
Anyone who does not agree with you is a troll, are they?
Allison Mack is an admitted criminal who only plead guilty to save her rotten butt.
Allison Mack is a “woman” who enjoyed hearing women scream while they were being branded with a hot iron.
Would you allow a sadistic freak like Allison Mack to babysit your children?
Shadow STFU… You have been exposed as a FRAUD… the first two weeks of the trail proved that you were a deluded old man with a sinster obsession! Cami”s role all Alison .Fiji Island keith Claire and Allison.. the brandhg ALL Alison! You’ve been Exposed now shut up…. Out of curiosity have you any PROOF she “enjoyed hearing women scream”??? no just BS from her number 1 stalker.. Cannot wait for the discovery material to be released after your arrest… Freedom of speech does not include lies and Hate speech..
Multiple.people are tracking what you post 🙂 tick tock
“Shadow STFU”
“You can’t handle the truth.”
Allison Mack plead guilty to two counts of Racketeering and Racketeering Conspiracy.
The predicate acts were blackmail and extortion.
As such Allison Mack is a Convicted Criminal and a Felon and a Gangster to boot.
“Freedom of speech does not include lies and Hate speech..”
WRONG!
First of all Allison Mack was indicted for a whole range of crimes and the DOJ allowed her to plea bargain out of several of them.
Even then the crimes she plead guilty to demonstrate that Allison Mack is a heartless gangster who used her talents to manipulate women into a sex cult.
Enough of the sympathy for a wicked woman.
If women want to be taken seriously they must be held to the same standards as men.
Secondly, Freedom of Speech DOES PROTECT so called Hate Speech.
That’s why the Nazis were allowed to march through Skokie, Illinois, a town that was at that time 70% Jewish.
You Liberals have a serious problem with Free Speech.
Perhaps you should consider moving to a country more to your liking like North Korea or Cuba,
You can share a bunk bed with Emiliano Salinas.
Shadow you were asked multiple times how many pictures you have of AM on your computer??? Everytime you avoided the question .. we’ll wait for the discovery material… You will be arrested…
“You liberals” Please please don’t post like you know me, I would be embarrassed and ashamed of I was connected to anyone like you…
You always want to make this whole saga about poltics… It isn’t about conservative s vs liberals!
There is No-one in this world with a more deep routed and festering hatred for her then you .. Google limitations to free speech you dim-wit!!!
You have crossed the line sooo long ago!!! Cannot wait for the article on here after your arrest..
You keep spreading your lies and fantasies…
You are a FRAUD!!
It’s been proved you do not have a leg to stand on!!
Alison is guilty no doubt she should serve time .. but letting an old man stalker spread lies and Hate speech is unacceptable…
And a couple of more points…
Facts versus lies/fantasies
Have you any proof AM “enjoyed hearing women scream” during branding??
Have you any proof AM “went down” on Nicki Cline???
And all of the other dozens of false information you presented as facts in your endless 1000s of word essays…
You really have been too stupid to be careful how you say things…
You deserve everything coming to you soon…
You call yourself “Truthseeker.”
Allison Mack called herself a Truthseeker.
Where did that land Allison?
You wouldn’t know the truth if it kicked you in the butt.
You’re just another crazed Allison Mack fan.
I’m “just another crazed fan” that is comedy!! I think she’s guilty, I think l she should serve time…
However, I do not write 100 plus articles “she is evil” “she is complex” “she kills kittens”…
You, Shadow are a FRAUD…
Answer the questions I asked!
You have told lies, let your fantasies run away with you.. and wrote 1000s of words on your facts that weren’t true!
Every second comment on anything AM is YOU repeatedly spouting the same deluded stuff…
Vangone is ‘undergoing this suffering’ because he is a criminal.
Nutjob aka pea onyu- Stop trolling Shadowstate1958 his heart can’t take much more for real dude!
My father was told in his twenties by a Doctor that because of his heart he would not make it to the age of thirty.
My father is now in his nineties.
Maybe your dad got scared healthy dude.
“She thought he was good when, in reality, she learned he was evil. But that was April 2019.”
Allison Mack only discovered he was evil after a huge FBI investigation and a multi count indictment against her.
Allison Mack is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Let’s take a little trip into Allison Mack’s mind by examining what kind of philosophies impress her.
Allison Mack is into esoteric Eastern religions as if she were a Sixties Hippie Flower Child.
I suppose Eastern Mysticism is par for the course for the white upper class from California.
Mack is like those Hipster Posers one finds in Coffee shops or tea rooms who greet everyone with the word “Namaste”.
You’re Suzy from Fort Wayne not Indira from Mumbai.
Here Mack posts a picture of Gandhi calling the Indian leader a hero
allisonmack729
#hero
https://www.instagram.com/p/BfYiCC7hbj3/
Like Raniere Gandhi liked to have naked women and girls sleep next to him.
Gandhi Was a Racist Who Forced Young Girls to Sleep in Bed with Him
He confronted this inability to control male libido head-on when he vowed celibacy (without discussing it with his wife) back in India, and using women—including some underage girls, like his grand-niece—to test his sexual patience. He’d sleep naked next to them in bed without touching them, making sure he didn’t get aroused; these women were props to coax him into celibacy.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ezj3km/gandhi-was-a-racist-who-forced-young-girls-to-sleep-in-bed-with-him
Gandhi was obsessed with sex – while preaching celibacy to others: Kusoom Vadgama
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/the-interviews-blog/gandhi-was-obsessed-with-sex-while-preaching-celibacy-to-others-kusoom-vadgama/
I suppose anyone who thinks Gandhi is a hero would think Raniere is a hero, too.
And in this picture Allison Mack posts a picture from her townhouse, probably the townhouse forfeited to the US government, with a picture of a laughing Buddha.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BV5ro9tBIc3/
Hey, Allison, the Buddha is laughing at you.
And of course no trip into Allison Mack’s mind would be completer without a visit to her favorite philosopher Rumi, a Muslim mystic from Persia (Iran).
allisonmack729
“Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field.
I’ll meet you there.” -#Rumi
•Timeless words from one of my favorites ❤
#Nourishment #SoulFood #Humanity #Peace #Simplicity #Beauty #AllisonMack
https://www.instagram.com/p/BU9oHtqhvQw/
allisonmack729
“Your hand opens and closes, opens and closes. If it were always a fist or always stretched open, you would be paralysed. Your deepest presence is in every small contracting and expanding, the two as beautifully balanced and coordinated as birds’ wings.”
― Rumi
•The practice of balance on my mind today as I take in the words of one of my favorite poets ❤
•#AllisonMack #Nourishment #SuperSoulSunday #Rumi #balance
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVgEqp9BLEq/
Allison Mack has a thing for meaningless word salad whether from a Persian mystic of a grubby chubby pervert.
Like one of my college professors said in the days before political correctness:
“Only Western philosophy counts. Everything else is crap.”
Lastly here is a picture of two of Allison Mack’s NXIVM friends, one of whom is Nicki Clyne.
What’s notable here is that Mack refers to her NXIVM friends as her #chosen family.
I guess one could say that Allison Mack’s chosen family is dysfunctional.
allisonmack729
Belly laughs…. nothing like it…. #chosenfamily #nycsummerlove #togetherforever #lovevsfear
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVuzqA_BTCz/
Mack looks like a younger sister Eddi Falco from the Sopranos.
“Mack looks like a younger sister Eddi Falco from the Sopranos.”
And Mack acts like Al Capone’s younger sister physically punishing those who disobey Her orders.
Once a gangster always a gangster.
As the saying goes, “You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube.”
https://patch.com/california/los-angeles/trump-calls-deportation-raids-now
So while all the NXIVM/ ESP PRI party criminal elite from Emiliano to Alejandro etc. roam free the hard-working Mexican immigrants with no felony records face deportation?
Beverly Hills won’t last a day without Mexicans. Bring it and mow your own lawn assholes.
“the hard-working Mexican immigrants with no felony records face deportation?”
A country without a border is like a house without a door.
Bravo!
Why Heidi had to bring her leftist viewpoint into a forum that has nothing to do with illegals and repatriation boggles the mind.
Heidi, stay on point, will ya? This is about NXIVM!!!!
WhoTF are you G?
The “hard-working Mexican immigrants” have already been ordered to leave the country by a judge following the laws of this country. Do you really consider Salinas is “roaming free” while in Cuba?
These parasites think it is their right to force themselves into someone else’s country with a smug entitlement. A sovereign country is not a free for all. They can fuck off to China and spread “diversity” there. Many ICE agents are Latinos. And legal US citizens.
“They can fuck off to China”
China, like most countries, is smart enough to control its borders.
Illegally enter China and you end up in the Chinese Gulag.
“hard-working Mexican immigrants”
They are not “immigrants”. They are ILLEGAL ALIENS with sombreros. 💀
Gee, Heidi just proved that she thinks Mexicans are only good for menial tasks like mowing lawns.
Talk about racist. If you truly viewed Mexicans as equals then you probably wouldn’t make such statements.
One of the first pieces of advice given me by a psych/councellor to improve my struggle with an obliterated ego, was to start capitalising the personal pronoun, that was over two decades ago, to this day ‘I’ still catch feelings over it!
this was a response to your comment below, Heidi!
No word from Shadow yet? Must be still spanking himself silly.
“No word from Shadow yet? Must be still spanking himself silly.”
Actually I spent the day reading a new book titled “Superpower” by Wall Street Journal Reporter named Russell Gold.
It is about the construction of new High Voltage electric transmission lines to deliver electricity from wind turbines and solar farms to East Coast cities.
You might try reading serious books some time.
This email says much about Allison’s intent. Funny, back in the mid-late ‘90’s, Gina Hutchinson, my late, great sis, was the only person I personally knew who wrote “I” as “i.” That’s how I spotted her online among my chat room fans when I was researching a script (or so I thought) and somehow gathered a following of what at first appeared to be complete strangers who uncannily showed up in every chat room or game room I visited those days.
This was way before iphone, iMac, etc. In fact, my ex was consulting with Apple at the time and I thought Gina’s little, ego-less — she worked so hard at minimizing her ego, quieting what she called the “self-referential madness of humanity” — “i” was just the coolest. I guess Steve Jobs liked it, too.
Allison is 100% less guilty than Lauren and half again less guilty than Nancy Salzman and her DNC cohorts.
welcome back!
Glad you’re back Heidi!
“wrote “I” as “i.”
Allison Mack is into poetry.
And one of the poets she likes is E. E. Cummings.
allisonmack729
My all time favourite poet dropping some wisdom. #evolution #nourishment #soulfood #inspiration
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bae7ZS-BIPG/
One of E. E. Cummings conceits is that he often spelled his name, even the first letters, in small script.
Edward Estlin “E. E.” Cummings (October 14, 1894 – September 3, 1962), often styled as e e cummings, as he is attributed in many of his published works
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._E._Cummings
That is not modesty on Allison Mack’s part.
You know Nothing about Allison…just shut up old man!
This whole mail show how fragile she was and yet you try to make it look the only way around…you sound more stupid than ever.
“This whole mail show how fragile she was ”
Allison Mack is as fragile as the wooden paddles she used to discipline her slaves.
Stupid is telling someone on the internet to shut up.
By the way, Heidi:
Allison Mack is 100% guilty.
She plead guilty and the witness “Jaye” had some very choice words to say about Allison Mack.
We haven’t seen the same court document then because the prove exonerate her as being at best a pawn.
As for “jaye”, all she do is insulting Allison as diminishing the role of HER masters and Don’t accuse Allison of much .
You are the only one who find that interesting because you can twist it to Something more sinister…
Like saying it’s a fact that Allison knew about Raniere’s pedophilia just because Jaye answered to Allison “yes”…
Make sense!
Maybe i should try to accuse you for something absolutely absurd and unproved and just add Yes when you say “you really believe i would do that”…You’ll then be proved to be the monster i made up!
Just get help, old man.
“exonerate her as being at best a pawn.”
Even pawns display more brains and self-control than Allison Mack did.
By the way, where was Allison Mack on the day her high school class learned about slavery and the Civil War?
Under the gym bleachers with a boyfriend?
“As for “Jaye”, all she does is insult Allison as diminishing the role of HER masters and Don’t accuse Allison of much .”
Yes, attack a real victim to defend the fiendish Allison Mack.
“Jaye” had the fortitude to look up Keith Raniere on the internet and in two minutes discover that Allison Mack was covering up Raniere’s pedophilia.
But attack “Jaye” all the same in order to defend the rotten, reprehensible Allison Mack.
You are truly an Allison Mack Hack.
Sooo you are jealous by the fact that despite Allison shows no brain, you are stupider than her!!!
Well Nothing can be done for you…old man
“Yes, attack a real victim to defend the fiendish Allison Mack.”
Victim of what? moron!
Nicole is a victim but Jaye…She even tried to bring someone to DOS while Nicole didn’t!
“discover that Allison Mack was covering up Raniere’s pedophilia.”
What a pathetic loser you are, remember the button ? it’s another of your fake accusation…Chicago judge are not as comprehensive a NY one so it could be bad for you.
Get help , loser!
Seriously. Where is the light shining on inept Prefect? The Queen of Exploring Meaning? I am getting the impression that the #1 person who helped devise the manipulative practices is still working to salvage her following. Remember how last year she was still trying to market her, lol, “superior healing skills” for something like $10,000? Here is a woman whose ego is so big that she refuses to admit the disconnect of how her company actually worked. Everything about her own daughter I don’t buy it. Her hands are so very dirty.
Meanwhile, she tools around Clifton Park with her remaining Nxivm friends conducting business. I realize the Times Union thinks it’s over, but it does not seem like it.
Are Nancy Salzman and her daughter Lauren capable of doing anything more than operating a cult?
Nancy is trash. She should be watched by the government and be forbidden by law to form any NXIVM/ESP/NLP type business again. She got off for being the #1 credibility enabler of Raniere for decades. She should be branded with this virtual stain for life.
I am a sympathetic advocate of Allison Mack.
But there’s a quirky mis-statement that Allison uses that is part of the liturgy in most esoteric groups
“from wrong lead me to right.
from darkness lead me to light.
from death lead me to immortality”
“Right and wrong” are subjective. The phrase would never be used in a spiritual ceremony where initiates call universal powers. It would misqualify the universal energy with subjective feeling because right and wrong are subjective.
Also, “from death lead me to immortality” isn’t quite right. The soul is eternal, it does not die. It merely stops assuming physical bodies for expression, when a certain level of evolution is reached that some call immortality.
I applaud her desire to express the universal.
In real metaphysical lodges, the actual phrase would be closer to:
“From the Unreal lead me unto the Real
From Darkness unto Light
From Illusion unto Truth
From Limitation unto Freedom”.
Her statement suggests that someone in the group had contact with a real spiritual order and tried to paraphrase the liturgy without an inner understanding of the power of words in ritual.
Possibly it demonstrates how the students were incorrectly taught spiritual principles.
—“Right and wrong” are subjective.
No they’re not. If you actually believed this to be true, then you would ultimately have to submit to the notion that there was nothing “wrong” with what Raniere did.
It is a modern error to conflate moral ontology with moral epistemology.
“i fight with my viscera [https://www.google.com/search?q=viscera&oq=viscera&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8] sometimes – the unconventional approach to love and relationships is something i still wrestle with.” Translation “My gut feeling is that threesomes are wrong.” I’m quite sure Mack now regrets not going with her gut feeling.
Except for this one sentence, the entire email is merely Raniere word salad directed back at him to demonstrate how much Mack is learning and can regurgitate [throwing up from her guts] from the overpriced NXIVM Intensives and EMs.
Could be threesomes… but my read was it was about being monogamous w a partner that you have to share with a whole harem.
I appreciate these tidbits.
But in this case, after having heard Dani’s testimony about the insincerity of the things she wrote in an attempt to tell Raniere what he wanted to hear, I can’t help but wonder if what we’re hearing from an erstwhile actress is necessarily reliable enough to attempt to parse.
I’ve known some people who experimented with polyamory, and it always struck me as such a complex emotional juggling act that it was virtually doomed to fail in the long-term in modern social circumstances. Mack seems to be struggling with the sort of things that end up almost impossible to actually accept or cope with, and it’s not surprising in general that we hear of Raniere’s women frequently “going off” and having issues with things like jealousy – especially when Raniere was manipulating them, playing them off against one another, and deceiving them.
I’ve also known people into the BDSM lifestyle, and I think the “freedom through slavery” concept is sort of a typical dynamic, though I don’t understand the nuances enough to really characterize it – and I do want to say that while DOS had some of the basic psychological outlines of BDSM, it was a poor imitation when it came to principles like rigorous consent.
Oh, and I want to note as I did once before, that while it’s probably just one of those odd coincidences, the hardcore BDSM store that items were ordered from online (if I recall one order did go through), is located practically withing walking distance of Mack’s home, where she is back residing waiting her sentencing and incarceration….
p.s. Here’s a good explanation of the BDSM aspect:
A BDSM Educator Tells Us Why NXIVM Sex Cult Allegations Aren’t Consensual Kink
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8xe5bb/a-bdsm-educator-tells-us-why-nxivm-sex-cult-allegations-arent-consensual-kink
The definition of polyamory includes knowledge and consent of all of the others having sex with each. This sometimes happened with Raniere, but usually it didn’t.
I didn’t realize Mack was back in New York, It thought she was required to be with her parents in California. Did the judge loosen those requirements?
The BDSM sex equipment turns out to have been ordered from a company in Huntington Beach, California, which borders on where the Macks live in Los Alamitos, if I have it right. I looked it up for the fun of it, figuring a BDSM manufacturer would probably also be in the LA area, though I was surprised it was as close as it is. I have a hunch that some genuinely seedy connections might turn up in Mack’s past – just as her early long-term fiancee, older and manipulative and reportedly abusive, turned out to be the son of a convicted pedophile.
Mack has a knack for doing dumb things. It will be interesting to see what she attracts in prison, it’s a “target rich” environment.
Frank,
Great article!
You are a magnanimous soul.
This article was written in the same vein as your Lauren Salzman six part series.
When I first started following the Frankreport, ‘magnanimous’ is not a word I would have used to describe you.
I am glad it is now.
I wish you the best.
Yikes.
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
She admits to loving that she smells like KEITH THE UNBATHED PIG?????
What the fuck?
Allison went from a successful and rich TV star with the world at her fingertips, to a broke and convicted sex slaver who’s about to serve prison time.
To add insult to injury, she’s now saying that she loves smelling like Keith the unbathed pig?
Must be something in the water in Albany.
How the fuck can a person take a perfectly privileged life and fuck it up that badly?
I mean, she couldn’t have fucked up her life any worse even if she were purposely trying to do it.
In my opinion, Allison should be deported after serving her prison time cuz she’s an embarrassment to her fellow Americans.
If no other country wants her, we should drive her north to the Canadian border and physically throw her over the borderline. The Canucks are dumb enough to take anybody. They’ll probably offer her a job on the CBC network.
I have no doubt that Flowers will be her #1 fan and offer her a place to stay. Fucken pervert!
LOL
Why should Canada take your unwanted, perverted criminals, Bangkook? (And didnt you claim to be Canadian yourself a few months ago?)
Mack was born in Germany- so deport her crazy ass back to Germany. I bet Germany is obligated by law to accept her, as she is technically one of theirs.
” I bet Germany is obligated by law to accept her, as she is technically one of theirs.”
Germany does not have birth right citizenship.
As far as Germany is concerned Allison Mack is American.
Q: Why should Canada take your unwanted, perverted criminals, Bangkook?
A: Because they blend in so easily.
How would she blend in amongst Canadians better than amongst Americans? The US has way more criminals than we have here.
Keep your homegrown crazy pervs on your side of the border.
Vancouver, BC would be the perfect place for another libtard. Plus, Canada is all-in for socialism, so it makes perfect sense to share some nutjobs with the U.S. Spread them around and share them, we have too many here.
“Why should Canada take your unwanted, perverted criminals”
Why should America be saturated with illegals? You only like mass uncontrolled immigration when they are beans and Muslims, not white chicks right?
We wouldn’t take her either at the CBC, we have standards.
“We”?
The CBC is disgusting.
Tax payer funded liberal pretentious drivel from sanctimonious cunts.
The tax payers are white men, the group the CBC hate and shit on.
An example, NXIVM poster girl Kristin Kreuk’s shit CBC show is obvious propaganda, portraying white men as bad perpetrators and everyone else as a victim of white men.
CBC loves to virtue signal about “diversity”.
They don’t mind white men being the primary funders for the shit network do they?They want more “diversity” aka less whites, in front of and behind the camera, but no calls to get more non whites to pay the taxes.
Cherry picking what they call “privilege”.
When will the shit CBC put anything critical of women, blacks, Asians, First Nations, homosexuals, “transgender” etc?
Bangkok,
Who are you kidding?…. You most likely loved this article”Gems”.
……After reading it…..
You probably ran into your family’s bathroom for some alone time to polish your knob.
This website is the gift that keeps on giving. I am obsessed. Now, every time I get an email from Vanguard Financial Services I get a fright!!
To answer your question, Frank – yes. Allison is both victim and victimizer. She lost her life to this conman.
I vote that she was a “sincere student who may have had the world’s most selfish and unenlightened teacher”.
She is a cunt dear. A cunt.
She is mostly a victim, the victimizer part as not been much demonstrated in court…
The only crime demonstrated(-ish) is collecting the collateral.
The rest is clearly Prosecution BS made to create a RICO case…
Forced Labor is the BS part…Agnifillo made a point when I said to Nicole ” Did you pay for Allison’s help …” (referring to the contract in Broadway and a couple of other things I forgot).
Extorsion isn’t complete…She didn’t threaten anything, she said clearly “My master wants to release your collateral”…It is confirmed later by the fact that Raniere himself is threatening Nicole.
And being extorted herself, Allison was stuck.
She pleaded guilty potentially for 3 Reason:
– The prosecution said that they would try to prove she knew about the pedophilia side (and even if unproven, this would have been dramatical for her case as Jury vote with their heart)
– The judge refused to give her a separate trial (and since the pedophilia side of Raniere was still planned to be shown, it would definitely have an impact on her side too (it’s clearly stated in the last motion filed by her lawyer before she pleaded guilty)
-No more money so the lawyers were pushing her to take a plea deal to avoid working for free.
The reality is the trial is showing she isn’t guilty of anything else but, at worst, extortion…and that is if you really try to interpret the rules and forget about the part where she is Under the same collateralization system.
“The only crime demonstrated(-ish) is collecting the collateral.”
The collateral is blackmail material.
Collecting blackmail material is an integral part of sex trafficking.
Allison Mack engaged in sex trafficking in a number of ways.
1.) Allison Mack recruited women to join the DOS cult concealing the true nature of the organization.
2.) Allison Mack trained and disciplined the women in the DOS cult.
3.) Allison Mack collected the blackmail material and put it in a Dropbox account for possible later use against women.
“Extorsion isn’t complete…She didn’t threaten anything”
Allison Mack does not have to threaten anything.
The women in the cult know of the blackmail material and know that Allison Mack has it.
Mack does not have to say a thing to threaten the victims.
EXTORTION IS INHERENT IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
“Allison Mack engaged in sex trafficking in a number of ways.”
My oh my…you are so stupid.
What you discribe is not proved and is NOT SEX TRAFFICKING
Before opening your stupid mouth, Mr “graduated from college”, Check the facts!
“Allison Mack does not have to threaten anything.
The women in the cult know of the blackmail material and know that Allison Mack has it.
Mack does not have to say a thing to threaten the victims.
EXTORTION IS INHERENT IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES.”
And you therefor recognize that Allison was a victims herself (by displaying your usual stupidity and writing without thinking)
If the women in the cult know of the blackmail material, So does Allison knows that aswell (for herself)
SHE WAS COLLATERALIZED and therefore, she was a victim TO A HIGHER LEVEL because she WAS THREATEN TO HAVE HER COLLATERAL RELEASED.
Like it or not, you can’t win this argument because except for you tiny brain, it’s a fact that she is a VICTIM (i love to put that word when i reply to you because it’s obvious you hate that word…especially when talking about the VICTIM Allison Mack).
“If that is true, is she not then at least in part a victim?”
For sure, she is to some extent a victim.
She is a walking tragedy, a person who has wandered so far away from herself, that she doesn’t know how to get back.
Not so much a lack of self-esteem, more a lack of Self.
“Please tell me who I am, what I want, and what I should do.”
I think that Raniere had plans for her from the first moment they met.
“I will empty what little there is of her out, and pour myself into the space that remains.”
“Her only purpose in life will be to do my will.”
If that sounds like the thought of a black magician, its because its meant to.
He was in Allison’s head for a long time. He had her in this thrall and he knew it. He molded Allison into the perfect slave master sadist. He warped her head, and Lauren’s, and every other woman he came into extended contact with. Seriously, why would any reasonable woman feed her daughter (Nancy Salzman, the world sees what you have done!) to this creep or propose to do so (Rosa Laura Junco, you should be ashamed of yourself!)?
Keith Raniere is a predator of the highest magnitude. Does this excuse the actions of these women? No. But it does help explain what they did and why they did it.
Come on….you start with a decent analyze and screw it with “perfect slave master sadist”…Where?
He destroyed her and rebuilt her into someone else, yes…
But there is no trace of sadism as far as what has been showed in court. Not from her side anyway.
Allison is a gullible fool – plain and simple.
Fake gurus always have a sexual angle associated with their cults. Sex has nothing to do with spirituality because it is a primal urge driven by the high of physical pleasure that culminates in orgasm. It is a material act the natural “intention” of which is to produce children. Pleasure is merely the bait by which Nature gets people to fuck and continue the species. Materialism is the opposite of spiritualism. The ancients practiced asceticism – which is abstinence from or minimization of sensual pleasure – for spiritualism.
VanFraud couldn’t give a shit about spirituality. As a hedonistic sociopath he wouldn’t engage in sex if their was no pleasure associated with it.
Wrong is right. Top is bottom. Fakes are treated as sages.
The world is upside down.
She wasn’t only drinking the Kool-aid, She was swimming in it.
If Allison is so in love w Keith, and considers him to be her husband – then her marriage to Nicki Clyne was a sham.
So why wasn’t Allison prosecuted for Visa fraud? By marrying Nicki to keep Nicki in USA?
Why hasn’t Nicki been deported?
“Why hasn’t Nicki been deported?”
There’s a good chance that Nicki has been cooperating with the FBI.
Shadow: Is Nicki Clyne very dumb or very devious?
https://frankreport.com/2019/04/09/shadow-is-nicki-clyne-very-dumb-or-very-devious/
When did Mack say she considered Raniere to be her husband, he’s only her f*ck partner.
Crazy Days Crazy Nights claimed Mack was having threesomes with Raniere. He also brought up the name of Kristin Kreuk. He made a mistake however, claiming Mack convinced Kreuk that Raniere was the shit. Other way round.
Yep.
Nope. As usual,CDAN has its shit messed up. It was Clyne convincing Mack. Mack had bought her house in Clifton Park Oct. 2011 and went public with her Raniere worship March 2012 but her stint in Wilfred “saved” her temporarily and she hooked up for awhile with another dude.
Don’t get too excited, CDAN said “No word on whether the pair were involved in a threesome”—so whether the blind refers to Kreuk or Clyne it is just a guess.
The second actress had a boyfriend. Mark “the cuck” Hildreth.
Mack had a boyfriend in 2012 as well, so as said previously, the real story is that Clyne was involved with KAR first, then tried to lure Mack into the threesomes after Mack moved out there, which is why Knox Woods spies began to see AM walking with KAR in 2012.
Why hasn’t Clyne got the ire of the Frank Report like Kreuk and Mack? Apparently Clyne was the first actress sexually involved with Raniere and the loosest of them all. She’s been under the radar far too long and has been barely hit with any of the negative publicity or the illegal and shady dealings she knowingly and willingly had a hand in. She was a small time celebrity who was part of the inner circle too just like Mack. She should be figuratively branded for enabling her whack and fake leader. She shouldn’t get a free pass.
Please let’s do everything we can to draw the attention away from my favorite actress in the world,
Kristen Kruek. There is no way she could have done anything wrong, because I love her.
In the article above, Mack’s email is from 2016 where she says she is NEW to threesomes.
The CDAN blind was from June 2012 (and revealed in 2013) so Mack wasn’t having 3 ways with Clyne or Kreuk or anyone till 4 years later.
Please clarify—It’s hard to figure from your comments who you all are fantasy-whacking off to—Mack, Clyne, Kreuk or Raniere?
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2013/01/blind-items-revealed_8929.html
I used to read Enty over a decade ago every once in a while. Enty is supposedly a lawyer, so he knows how to word his gossip so that it is vague enough yet laden with some truth so he is free of libel claims. In light of recent events, in this blind item clearly Enty is referring to Mack about engaging in threesomes with Raniere. That he got it wrong that he thought Allison recruited Kreuk several years before 2012 instead of vice versa isn’t important. He basically just threw in that detail as a segue for additional salaciousness to his blind item disclaiming what was to follow it from libel by saying “no word on whether the pair…”, meaning it was complete speculation. Enty isn’t dumb.
wow! thx for sharing. alison sounds so dumb.
“…Anyway, the actress ended up meeting this guy, and despite him already sleeping with several women each day, she fell in love with him […] The problem is the guy just doesn’t love women, he also loves teens…[…]Our actress defends the actions of her boyfriend and thinks that people who don’t understand him or his needs, are just wrong….”
basically what happnd to alisson since 2012.
from the outside it sems obvious it was a bad deal…duh!