Earlier this week, Frank Report broke the news on the government’s move to seize various NXIVM-related assets (As indicated in that report, the government had already obtained consent from Lauren Salzman and Allison Mack to seize those assets – and was expected to receive similar consents from Nancy Salzman, Clare Bronfman, and Kathy Russell in the near future).
The assets to be seized include the following:
(1) The real property located at 8 Hale Drive, Halfmoon New York 12065, together with its respective buildings, appurtenances, improvements, fixtures, attachments, easements and furnishings;
(2) Fifteen thousand six hundred seventy dollars and zero cents ($15,670.00) in United States currency seized on or about March 27, 2018 from 3 Oregon Trail, Waterford, New York 12188;
(3) Three hundred ninety thousand one hundred eighty dollars and zero cents ($390,180.00) in United States currency seized on or about March 27, 2018 from 3 Oregon Trail, Waterford, New York 12188;
(4) One hundred nine thousand seven hundred twenty-seven dollars and zero cents ($109,727.00) in United States currency seized on or about March 27, 2018 from 3 Oregon Trail, Waterford, New York 12188;
(5) The real property located at 7 Generals Way, Clifton Park, New York 12065, together with its respective buildings, appurtenances, improvements, fixtures, attachments, easements and furnishings, and all proceeds traceable thereto;
(6) The real property located at 455 New Karner Road, Albany, NY 12205, together with its respective buildings, appurtenances, improvements, fixtures, attachments, easements and furnishings, and all proceeds traceable thereto;
(7) The real property located at 457 New Karner Road, Albany, NY 12205, together with its respective buildings, appurtenances, improvements, fixtures, attachments, easements and furnishings, and all proceeds traceable thereto; and
(8) The real property located at 449 New Karner Road, Albany, NY 12205, together with its respective buildings, appurtenances, improvements, fixtures, attachments, easements and furnishings, and all proceeds traceable thereto.
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Additional Assets To Be Seized
Now comes word that the government also intends to seize two other assets:
The first item is the Steinway grand piano that is located in Nancy Salzman’s former residence at 3 Oregon Trail.
As previously reported, the estimated cost of that piano was $40,000 (There is also a $90,000 Steinway piano located at 8 Hale Drive – and the government will get that in conjunction with its seizure of that property).
The second item is First Principles, Inc., the Delaware company that owns, among other things, the Rational Inquiry™ technology that includes all 2,000 modules developed by Keith Raniere and Nancy Salzman.
Yep, that’s right folks . . .When this whole mess is over, the U.S. government is going to own all of Raniere’s infamous “tech”.
The “tech” includes approximately 2,000 modules.
Whether the government will auction the “tech” off to the highest bidder (which could well be Barbara Bouchey) – or it decides to turn it over for use by the CIA – has yet to be determined.
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U.S. May Also End Up With Other Raniere Patents
It is unclear at this time whether First Principles, Inc. also owns all the other patents that Raniere supposedly obtained over the years – but at least some of those patents were apparently issued in the company’s name.
What is clear is that Raniere made a major mistake when he decided to have Nancy Salzman be listed as the owner of First Principles, Inc.
Nancy has already consented to have the government obtain ownership and control of First Principles, Inc.
So, unless Raniere plans to sue the U.S. government to assert ownership over the company and its assets – kind of like how he sued AT&T and Microsoft for their infringement of patents that he didn’t own – it’s bye-bye “tech” and bye-bye patents.
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Clare Bronfman To Pay $6 Million By June 18th
Meanwhile, Clare Bronfman has also consented to the government’s seizure of the properties located at 455 New Karner Road, 457 New Karner Road, and 459 New Karner Road.
In addition, Clare has also agreed to pay her $6 million “Forfeiture Money Judgment” to the Eastern District of New York no later than Tuesday, June 18th.
Per the terms of her plea deal, Clare agreed to pay the $6 million in lieu of the forfeiture of any of her assets.
In addition to the $6 million payment, Clare’s plea deal also contained the following provisions:
– 21-27 months in prison;
– Up to 3-years of supervised release (AKA probation) after she has served her prison sentence;
– A $100 special assessment;
– $96,605.25 to Jane Doe 12, who is “Sylvie”, the first witness in Keith Raniere’s trial; and
– Restitution in the full amount of each victim’s losses as determined by the court.
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Time For Some Justice For The Victims
It is unclear who will qualify as a “victim” in this case.
But it would be fair and fitting if the presiding judge, U.S. District Court Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis, allowed anyone who believes they are a victim to submit a “Victim Impact Statement” and a “Claim For Restitution” before he pronounces sentences on all of the co-defendants in the case.
As of right now, the U.S. government is the only entity that will walk away with any compensation in this case (By the way, how stupid must Grant C. Jaquith – and the rest of his colleagues in the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of New York – feel for letting this bonanza slip through fingers).
But Judge Garaufis can correct that injustice by allowing all the victims of the NXIVM criminal enterprise to submit claims for restitution – and awarding them a fair amount of restitution.
Presumably, all the co-defendants in this case will be jointly and severally liable for any restitution that is awarded. That means that the victims can collect any amount they are awarded from any of the co-defendants (Come on down, Clare Bronfman!).
Awarding restitution to the victims of the NXIVM criminal enterprise is the fair and just thing to do.
Otherwise, those victims will need to initiate separate legal actions to collect damages.
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“But Judge Garaufis can correct that injustice by allowing all the victims of the NXIVM criminal enterprise to submit claims for restitution – and awarding them a fair amount of restitution.
Presumably, all the co-defendants in this case will be jointly and severally liable for any restitution that is awarded. That means that the victims can collect any amount they are awarded from any of the co-defendants (Come on down, Clare Bronfman!).”
-First of all, the victims would include some of the defendants.
-Second, Only the victims who are cited in this lawsuit would be candidates for that kind of restitution. (Dani,Sylvie and Nicole).
Nicole is certain to get restitution and more (part of the plea deal), Dani and Sylvie could be considered for the restitution.
The customers of Nxivm wouldn’t be candidates as the company is not recognized as a criminal entrerprise…the inner circle is.
That is why, unfortunately, Nxivm isn’t dead.
-Third, The restitution is part of the plea deal in some case so it concern EXCLUSIVELY the victims as noted in the case (like i said for Nicole).
You can forget about asking for compensation because you are anything but a victim.
That will probably not stop you to try it…
As for the other Customers, they’ll have to prove that they were victims and that is not possible as they received what they paid for.
[…] New Asset Forfeiture Filings Will Give U.S. Government Ownership Of NXIVM “Tech” […]
2000 modules of tech. What’s kindling worth these days?
What about the Rainbow Schools and the place in Mexico and the island in Figi? Will they go after Carlos Slims kid or did the Clintons get him off?
Frank, I figure it’s got to be satisfying to see NXIVM’s most valued corporate documents and their “trade secrets” in fancy bindings, including those marked Executive Success Programs, in a cheap cardboard box – in the hands of the feds.
Congratulations!
¡Viva ESP!
Here are some valuations of the real property.
8 Hale Drive Keith Raniere’s Sex Lair
2beds 1.5bath 1,214sq ft 436 sqft lot
8 Hale Dr, Halfmoon, NY 12065
Property Overview – 8 Hale Dr, Halfmoon, NY 12065 is a single family home built in 1986. This property was last sold for $64,500 in 2018 and currently has an estimated value of $170,100.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/8-Hale-Dr_Clifton-Park_NY_12065_M30584-22974
There is one slight problem with 8 Hale Drive.
The Hot Tub crashed through the ceiling and the house is condemned.
Hot tub in Keith’s sex lair falls through ceiling; property condemned
February 27, 2019
According to sources in Clifton Park, the notorious hot tub that Keith Raniere used to mentor 100s of women and, quite probably, more than a few underage girls, has fallen through the ceiling and come crashing down on the floor below.
It was nestled up in a bedroom on the second floor of the town home at 8 Hale Court in Clifton Park in the Knox Woods subdivision. According to sources, the Clifton Park code enforcement department has condemned the property – banning any occupancy until repairs are made to fix the ceiling and reinforce the support walls.
The property has been vacant for months.
https://frankreport.com/2019/02/27/hot-tub-in-keiths-sex-lair-falls-through-ceiling-property-condemned/
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And for 7 Generals Way (Allison Mack’s Torture Dungeon) here are the stats
7 Generals Way
Halfmoon, NY 12065
3 beds 2.5 baths 1,476 sqft
OFF MARKET
Zestimate®: $214,456
Rent Zestimate®: $1,650 /mo
EST. REFI PAYMENT
$889/mo
Note: This property is not currently for sale or for rent. The description below may be from a previous listing.
Beautiful 3 bedroom, 2.5 bath town-home in the Knox Woods development. Rare find with fully finished basement, one car attached garage and living room with cathedral ceilings, eat in kitchen, first floor master bedroom and bath. New back patio. HOA fees included in rent which gives access to pool and tennis courts. Call now for your private showing!
Type Single Family Year Built 1985
Heating Other Cooling Central
Parking 1 space Lot 3,485 sqft
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7-Generals-Way-Halfmoon-NY-12065/32435958_zpid/
As far as I know there was no hot tub to crash through the floor at 7 Generals Way.
Something is wrong about that 2018 sale date for 8 Hale Drive. Here is what the Saratoga County Assessment Database shows for 8 Hale Dr – with a last sale date of 2004:
Municipality of Halfmoon
Ownership Information
Executive Housing & Prop Inc 3 Tallow Wood Dr Unit G
Clifton Park NY 12065
Sale Information
Sale Date Price Property Class Sale Type Prior Owner
1/23/2004 $118,900 210 – 1 Family Res Land & Building Fortin, Laury
$84,500 was the amount of the oldest recorded – and probably original – sale, 3 transactions further back, in 1988.
The Assessor also shows this; in my experience some assessors can be very conservative when it comes to market value, though others sometimes track more details that affect value than sources such as realty service databases (which you cite, and which apparently has the sales history wrong), such as whether there have been permits issued for work on the property, which can indicate whether it has been kept up or even renovated, or is in likely in need of significant work to bring it up to current market standards:
Full Market Value: 2019 – Tentative
$125,415
They also assigned it that value in 2018, so it probably isn’t even taking into account the hot tub damage.
You’re right about the Realtor.com 2018 sale price.
I merely used the numbers on the website.
I might hazard to guess that maybe whoever owned the property in 2018 was eager to unload it at whatever price he or she could because Raniere had fled to Mexico and then been arrested.
A Fire Sale if you will.
And the damage from the overflowing hot tub sounds extremely serious.
Enough to require expensive repairs.
As a last point properties involved in notorious crimes are very difficult to sell.
I doubt if the government will be able to sell the house at all.
After a period of time it will be demolished.
Zillow, Trulia and Redfin don’t show a sale or a withdrawn listing, so I think Realtor.com just has a bad data problem. Also, if the property had been put up for sale, I think we’d have heard.
I was watching this video and I could not stop thinking about all the women in DOS and all the haren of KAR and all its followers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg
In general what is the government’s justification in seizing someone’s assets. Are the assets up for seizure only those that the government knows or can show were obtained illegally or purchased with money obtained from an illegal enterprise? What if someone has a spouse living or family living in a property?
Also if there were 8 first line slaves, why do you think or do you know why only Lauren S and AM were arrested. Since there was never anything of any note written about Monica Duran or frankly the other first liners, I was surprised at what was revealed about her involvement. Are the Mexican DOS masters out of reach of the US? Lots of horrible things have come out about Mack, but if any of Clyne’s or slaves of other DOS women were to have testified would those masters come off just as bad or worse?
I believe that under RICO any real property purchased with the proceeds of a racket can be seized.
Any profits from a racket can be seized.
Moreover any property used in furtherance of the racket can be seized.
For example if Mack’s townhouse had been used for the branding rituals, the government can seize it even if Mack had purchased it years before from her own money.
If a car is used to transport the sex slaves around, it can be seized.
And the government can seize Raniere’s sex lair since it is part of the sex trafficking operation.
The idea is to take the profit out of criminal activity.
And for Liberals the RICO law was inspired by Robert F. Kennedy who waged a war against organized crime for many years.
RICO was the product of the work of a Liberal Icon Bobby Kennedy.
Since the only RICO charges were filed against the six named defendants only property in their names can be seized.
So property in the names of the Mexican DOS women or Nicki Clyne will probably not be seized.
The primary RICO law author wrote an opinion of Amway being very similar to the Mafia, and Amway tried to have it taken down from the internets, search for “Blakey” here: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/
Also, it was the Nixon administration that passed the RICO law, the Kennedys had very little to do with it, as they had both been assassinated before 1970 when the law was written: https://concept.journals.villanova.edu/article/view/312/275
Some of them flipped, some didn’t have enough evidence against them for a conviction, some of them aren’t worth the trouble to extradite, and there could still be new indictments.
Since NXIVM Tech was really cribbed from Scientology and Ayn Rand all some clever NXIVM troll has to do is steal it all over again just making sure to change the terminology so that it sounds new and improved.
NLP – which has its roots in Ericksonian hypnosis – was also a prime source of “tech” and influence.
Scientology itself is a mix of a large variety of things, including hypnosis and psychotherapy. Hubbard – who was a rather accomplish stage-style hypnotist, capable of pulling off some magic-like tricks on people – didn’t really invent anything new, but like Raniere came up with applications and syntheses that gave him and his organization a powerful influence or control over people, enough to constitute a remarkably extreme high control group or cult (experts like Rick Ross categorize both among the most extreme examples).
Since it’s all based on fairly common material, it takes a unique sort of organization to turn it into something somehow compelling. A group like NXIVM is a social construct as much as a technical or functional one – some of the best work on the subject is by sociologists like Stephen Kent – and so creating an offshoot or derivative is not as simple as just re-packaging the content. For instance, virtually every attempt to create something out of Scientology – often based an idea like Barbara Bouchey’s of finding and distilling the “good” – has fallen flat.
I realized that one of the models we can look to for what happens post-NXIVM, is NXIVM itself. What ever happened after the centers disintegrated in Vancouver (Edmondson’s) and LA (Vicente’s)? Was NXIVM itself ever able to reconstitute a local following, and has anyone created anything new to attract disaffected members and even new recruits? I’ve never heard of anything, which suggests to me that NXIVM could never regain its footing once exposed and disrupted, though there may be some small and quiet vestiges.
The guys who were doing Nixivm courses with the women ,why did they not try and get the women to escape from Nixivm?
Because they believed in NXIVM as well. Most of them probably weren’t aware of DOS and the cauterizing of Raniere’s initials in the pubic region, so why would they want to help them escape?
NXIVM was mostly men who believed in the cult. Everyone’s noticing the skinny white women. Though there were many at the top, the cult practice was mostly performed by men who funneled women to them.
Love the pic of Barb drinking the Kool-Aid. What flavor was it Barb? Salty, or kind of sweet?
“Love the pic of Barb drinking the Kool-Aid. What flavor was it Barb? Salty, or kind of sweet?”
Since it’s yellowish in color my guess is it would be somewhat salty.
Like the worst tasting Gatorade in history.
Maybe Pea Onyu could tell us what it tastes like.
What about 1 2 3 flintock townhouse who owms them and her bmw which has been at the pool forva year
Any and all legitimate victims should be entitled to financial compensation.
The victims can file civil RICO suits against the defendants.
Krclaviger,
The government owning NXIVM tech is not so strange. Do remember that time the IRS ran a brothel in Nevada? (Rhetorical question)
The link to the story is below. After my 10:30 theory I wil start citing my sources. 😉
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1990-10-23-9003280922-story,amp.html
Ultimately “there are no victims”; Nxivm have any “issue” with these conclusions or need more IEMs?
Will the government own the property with the remodeled kitchen that Nancy had the hidden stash areas installed ?
Nancy’s former residence at #3 Oregon Way is not on the list – and that property is actually owned by Clare Bronfman or one of her many companies.
I will offer $15.99 for the Steinway. After all, it is used.
well at the price you are offering, I assume you believe it was ” used ” to provide musical accompaniment during male group masturbation sessions.
Will the Mexican contingent still be allowed to use this “tech”?
Pyriel – that’s what I’m curious about! If the US Gov ends up owners of the tech, wouldn’t that then give them the means to go after anyone using that tech without consent? Then would that create an opportunity for them to go after the MX crew?
The Feds will us the Nx tech to make Government more ethical, and to empower Hillary Clinton.
I am worried what the Feds will do with Keith’s hot tub that fell thru the ceiling. The “Deep State” can use his old DNA to clone a new Vanguard and take over the world.
Yes or they could charge licence fees to those using it. Actually it is possible that if parts of it were written not just by KR but others that other members if they had no contracts about their contribution might still own parts of it by default.
I think that depends on how US intellectual property (IP) right laws apply in Mexico, or whether there are separate registrations there as well; whether Mexicans NXians hold licensing or similar arrangements that are still valid, which I would expect they normally would be; and whether the rights will pass to anyone who will enforce them, or will effectively lapse and become available for anyone to use without consequences.
I’ve known the government to sell off fake antiques seized in forgery cases, rather than destroying them; so there’s a good chance they’ll sell PR rights off to the highest bidder; in which case I’d expect someone like Sara Bronfman or one of the rich Mexican loyalists to buy them, maybe anonymously and through a shell company.
Will the government try to seize his proprietary Rape Technology?
This is great news that doesn’t depend on the outcome of Raniere’s trial. Can the Frank Report readers claim to be victims for being exposed to all of the filth and trash that is NXIVM?