A group ceremony involving the first line slaves and their master [in the center] the wondrous Keith Alan Raniere.

Lauren Salzman: Group Blow Job for Keith and Daniela’s Horrific Story

By Dianne Lipson

Lauren Salzman cried copiously while testifying about her cruelty to the Mexican woman [Daniela] confined to a room for almost two years. And offered information about a novel plan for first line DOS slaves to have a special ceremony with Keith where the eight women would give him a joint blow job.

Just another day at the trial of Keith Alan Raniere.

Lauren took the stand in the morning and continued telling the jury more about the wonders of Keith Alan.  She testified:

PR MOVES

After DOS was publicly exposed, there was discussion about releasing a branding video to show reporters.  Most of the talking [and screaming] would be edited out of this, but they would keep the part where the person to be branded says, “Master, please brand me, it would be an honor that I want to wear for the rest of my life.”

But there were concerns that this video might make things worse, it might make it look like the group was sexual in nature. The video was never released.

Keith drafted a position statement about DOS which was emailed to first-line dos slave masters a few days after the New York Times article came out [October 17, 2017].   In the statement, Keith said that the [NY Times] shaming of the women is misogynist and against the rights of women – and that the DOS women should be allowed to do what they want to do. That this was a campaign against alternative lifestyles and against women who chose to show solidarity. Women should have the freedom to express themselves.

He also said DOS has nothing to do with Nxivm but that Nxivm supports their right to do consensual activities without shame.  This was the kind of rights our forefathers fought for he argued.

The government asked, “How do you feel about that now?”

Lauren said. “It’s misdirection. The New York Times article asserted coercion, and it wasn’t anything against an alternative lifestyle.”

Lauren felt that once you have collateral, it’s different. It’s coercion. She said it was also deceptive in the way that collateral was obtained.

Keith wanted the slaves to state that he was not involved.  He said not to tell anybody that he was the Grand Master.

Lauren said she felt the purpose of DOS was to create an army of women for Keith.

BRANDING DOS

Lauren said Allison Mack told Vanessa Girgoriadis [NY Times Magazine] that Mack was taking credit for the brand. This was an opportunity to explore their sensuality and sexuality as women.

Nicki Clyne wanted to have a visual representation of the brand, which Lauren drew. They tried to characterize the brand as symbolic, symbolizing the elements, mountains, rivers, and the fire was the actual fire of the brand. They tried to pass it off as an esoteric symbol [as opposed to Keith’s initials.]

VIVA MEXICO

Keith Raniere fled to Mexico in late 2017.  When Keith was in Mexico, burner phones were used. Keith said there were investigations ongoing in three countries but that “We’re going to win because the truth is on our side.”

At some point, Lauren told law enforcement that Keith wasn’t involved with DOS and that the branding was the women’s idea. That would, of course, be a separate crime that could have resulted in a 5-year sentence for Lauren.

Clare put out a public statement [Decemebr 2017].  Lauren asked Keith what Clare really knew – and Keith responded that Clare did not want to know anything she didn’t need to know.

At this point, Alex Bentancourt told Lauren that Emiliano was upset because a former DOS slave, Nicole, went to Emiliano and told him she was forced to have sex with Keith.

Lauren met with Emiliano. He said he was leaving NXIVM – which was a very sad and significant thing for Lauren.

Later on, in a conversation with Keith, Lauren wanted to know who performed the oral sex on Nicole while she was blindfolded. Was it Allison Mack?

Keith said it was Camilla and that this was something Camilla was interested in exploring.

Lauren felt this was disturbing. She was starting to have real concerns. She’d never worked outside of Nxivm.  She felt that if she left Nxivm, it would separate her from her mother and sister, Michelle.

Lauren wanted to believe that all of this was for her growth. And she wanted to make everyone proud of her and wanted to have a child with Keith.  She didn’t want to think that all her choices over the course of the past the last 20 years had been bad ones.

If she didn’t support Keith, she’d be seen as somebody who didn’t keep her word or who didn’t want growth. And that would affect her relationship with her family.

“It would have meant leaving my entire life,” she said.

When DOS was exposed, there was a renewed discussion on the subject of Lauren having children with Keith. Keith said he would do some kind of fertility treatments to have a child with Lauren if Lauren stayed.

Lauren felt that Keith’s priority was Mariana – and, true to form, Keith did not follow up with the fertility treatments even though it would have been easy for him to do so.

Keith floated the possibility of there being a fertility clinic associated with Nxivm.  But Lauren wanted a child now. She had waited long enough. She didn’t want to wait for several more years while Keith got around to starting a Nxivm fertility clinic

Group Blow Job

Daniela Padilla contacted Lauren about a proposed re-commitment ceremony for DOS, which was to take place with most of the first line slaves, except Mariana and Camilla.  The commitment ceremony was to involve a group orgy which was watered down to a group blowjob for Keith.

Lauren didn’t want to participate in the orgy.

“I have no way of surrendering except to a group blow job,” Salzman said.

Keith told her this group blowjob was not something he asked for and Daniela took responsibility for this idea. Lauren didn’t believe that.  But Lauren decided to go through with the [blow job] re-commitment ceremony.

Keith’s arrest

Lauren went back and forth to Mexico to be with Keith.  One day, Mexican police were surrounding the property, banging on the door. Lauren tried to get Keith to escape out a window. Keith said she could call [Nxivm member] Jack Levy, but Lauren didn’t have a phone to call him.

Police were banging on the door. Keith said to ask them if they have a warrant. There was back and forth. “I will show you the warrant if you open a door” –  “No show me the warrant first”.

Keith then hid in the closet

“The whole time I kept thinking they could just shoot in this door, thinking really legitimately, “I could get shot right now,” Lauren said.

At some point, the Mexican Federal police kicked in the door – and Lauren was held on the floor with four machine guns pointed at her. The police were demanding to know if anybody else was inside.  At first, Lauren didn’t answer, but at some point, Lauren called out Keith’s name.

They found Keith and threw him on the floor and handcuffed him. Then they took Keith away.

Lauren was crying. She felt terrible for months afterward because she felt she had let Keith down.

Lauren explained why she felt bad about that. “Everything I believed all centers around living a principled life centered around love, dying for a principle is the most noble thing you can do.”

Lauren beat herself up after that for lack of character and for acting like a woman, because men were noble and women were not.

“I chose what I believed we had been training for this entire time. I chose love,” she said. “It never occurred to me that I would choose Keith and Keith would also choose Keith.”

 

Daniela

Lauren first met Daniella in Monterrey, Mexico in 2001 when she attended an intensive. Daniela was a student, 17 or 18. Daniela was bright and grasped the concepts more readily than others. She took to the teachings faster than most.

At some point, in Albany, Lauren got a call from Hector, Daniela’s father, who said that, instead of Daniela going to Switzerland to study, she wanted to do an internship with Nxivm. Daniela came to Albany and her sister, Mariana, joined her later and then the others in the family came.

Lauren thought Daniela was going to do an internship to learn how to become a coach, but what soon happened was Daniela started spending time with Keith, working with him on book reports so that Keith would not have to read the books.

At some point, there was a fight between Daniela and Keith, a big, yelling fight and tension between them.  At this time Daniela was in her early 20s.

It turned out that Keith wanted both Daniela and her sister, Mariana, to take a nap with him. This was upsetting to Daniela.

There were other problems with Daniela. She was not doing the work she had committed to do.

Daniela was given an ultimatum to go into her room and come up with a plan to fix it or be sent it back to Mexico. Danielle had to come up with a plan to rectify what she had done.

When asked what did she do? Keith said, “Daniela knows what she did.”

Lauren was assigned the project of supervising Daniela.

Here’s how Keith convinced Lauren.  This was against the backdrop of all the kidnappings in Mexico. Keith said to her, “someday you might have a child and somebody may call you saying they want a million dollars for your child. They might be holding your child for ransom and say they want a million dollars. You can learn how to work with that kind of personality now, or you can deal with it when it happens.”

hat kind of personality meant Daniella, meaning Daniela had a psychotic personality.

Lauren initially did not think that Daniella was game playing but at some point she came to think that everything Daniela did was game play.

Daniela wrote messages to Keith but he wasn’t accepting what Daniela was writing. Sometimes he didn’t even read what she wrote.

At first Lauren visited Daniela every day but then her visits became less frequent. Sometimes a month would go by and she didn’t visit.

Lauren didn’t have sympathy for Daniella. Lauren was angry with Daniela for not figuring out how to deal with this, for not doing what she was supposed to be doing, for manipulating.  Lauren was not compassionate and unkind.

Lauren felt that this project [of getting Daniela to admit she was wrong] was unsuccessful and that her failure to get Daniela to do the right thing and leave the room could be jeopardizing Lauren’s chance to have a child with Keith.

The government asked, “ How do you feel now?”

Lauren said, “In all the 20 years I worked with Keith, this is the worst thing that I ever did.”

Lauren was crying as she said she kept Daniela in the room for close to two years.

Lauren also said that Daniela and her family had been close but that they became severed and she thinks that was terrible.

At some point, Daniela cut her hair even though Keith told her not to cut her hair. The proposal then was for Daniela to stay in the room for three years until it grew back. Daniela didn’t want to do that.

Through all this testimony Lauren was crying.

Keith said Daniela could have a new experience of herself. But instead, her focus was on manipulation.

At some point, Daniela’s mother agreed to stay in a room next door to Daniela, as sort of a prisoner, so that Daniela could see that she was making other people suffer because of what she was doing.

The mother stayed for a time, but then somebody close to the mom died and she went to the funeral and didn’t come back and the mom eventually left to join another consciousness-raising group called ‘Book of Knowledge.”

It was then proposed that because the mom broke her commitment to stay in the room until Daniela did the right thing that Daniela should stay in the room until her mom came back.

At first, Daniela thought this was a good idea.

At some point Daniela’s sisters, Camilla and Mariana were trying to work with Daniela. Lauren thought they could not be objective since they were both having sex with Keith.

At one point Daniela said in a letter, “let me out, I’m coming undone.” Camilia intercepted her sister’s letter and didn’t show it to her parents because their parents would be too reactive. They might take action on this.

Camilia asked to speak to Daniela but Lauren told her “No, the family is not to speak to her.”

Keith said that Daniela’s letter was a sort of tantrum to get what she wants. And it wouldn’t be good for Daniela to throw a tantrum and then subsequently get what she wants.

Keith said letting Daniela out of the room is the opposite of healing a breach.  If they gave into this, Daniela would learn that she could get upset then get what she wants.

Keith said you don’t want to buy into Daniela’s tantrum. And asked her the difference between being in the room for a day or being put in the room for all the time she has left.

After this, Daniela was in the room for three or four months more.

[By the way, as readers of Frank Report know – the ethical breach that required Daniela to be confined to a room – which nobody at the time knew – because Keith did not say – was that Daniela wanted to be with another man other than Keith. That man’s name is Ben Myers. He ultimately married Lauren’s sister Michelle.]

This ended the morning session and the court adjourned for lunch.

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  • Lauren is incredibly stupid and naive and arguably a bad person. However her mom who got her involved in this initially, is a foul, disgusting, complicit human who should be shunned from society much like Keith.

  • Anybody knows who the next witnesses are? Creepy sex cult stories don’t get the monster locked up for life, we need more than this…

    • Since it’s RICO and five of them have already plead guilty to various (and significantly, different) felonies, all the DOJ should have to do is show Raniere was involved in the racket, minus the hiding in the closet routine, I think they’re doing a fine job of that. In fact, they are showing he was in charge and the mastermind.

  • How could they let that poor girl stay in a roon for 2 years? Utterly dreadful.
    If they could have all just stuck with the coaching business and left the sex stuff or formed it entirely unconnected to Nx they would not be in this mess.

      • Shadowstate,

        I bet if the poor girl in the room happened to be ’12’ you would be on a diatribe about how she was a coward…..

        ……. and should have contacted Law enforcement and worn a wire…..LOL

        Shadowstate are you ever consistent?

        ……..

        • LOL. Shadow is consistent in blaming it all on the female. If it was Vicente (or any other male) and Keith keeping her in the room, THEN it would have been her fault for not trying harder to escape or trying harder to mend that pesky ethical breach.

  • The two years in the room did her good. It was her idea for the “recommitment ceremony”. More proof vanguard’s ” tech” works.

    Contrast Dani with Sara Edmondson that ran a center and wasn’t defiant. Edmondson once exposed to weird, after some time and allowance for shock and trauma got the hell out of Dodge and recognized “the slow boil”. As did Vicente.

    The ones that initially saw good definitely had a quirk in their dna that wasn’t apparent in their personality profile. A glitch in Raniere’s Matrix that was the cause of his downfall. Had Keith recognized this he’d still be living the dream with his delusional girlfriends pining for their time with him.

    He even had a cage ordered in case he needed to use the patented tech that worked so well on Dani if they got impatient

    • There are two Daniela’s. The one that ordered the cage and purportedly wanted the group blow job is not the same Daniela that was confined to a room.

      • Thanks for clarifying to Mitch, Frank. I thought the Dani that was locked in the room, left/escaped and was dumped in Mexico with little money. Also, is she testifying against him at some point?

  • Shall I weep for Lauren????
    HELL NO!
    Lauren, her mother and sister have well known faces in the tri cities now.
    They will be forever lepers.
    Maybe they can do porn since their used to “kink”.

  • “Lauren met with Emiliano. He said he was leaving NXIVM – which was a very sad and significant thing for Lauren.”

    This is BS! Lauren is lying! Emiliano was not going anywhere!

    Well after Keith was arrested, Emiliano was telling all Mexico that he was innocent. He said he had all the evidence to prove his innocence. He swore Keith was “a saint”.

    Emiliano is making Lauren lie in court. He is a bastard son of b#$@

    Here: Emiliano Salinas defiende inocencia del líder de Nxivm
    https://aristeguinoticias.com/2603/mexico/empresa-de-emiliano-salinas-defiende-inocencia-del-lider-de-nxivm

    • Anonymous, you are right.
      While Emiliano and Betancourt might be OFFICIALLY out of NXIVM, behind the scenes they are still powerful in NXIVM Mexico.

      And Dennis Burke was working more for Emiliano than for Lauren or Nancy.

      Don’t expect any indictment for the top membership of NXIVM Mexico.

  • It’s astonishing how easily people are manipulated to do the most bizarre things. We should not be perplexed, then, by the millions who have perished in the name of Karl Marx – just to name one – when human moral weakness is so brazenly on display next door.

    Keith Raniere aimed too low. With a bit more effort, he might have given Karl and Adolf a run for their money.

  • Meanwhile over in the SDNY a very important trial involving a member of the worlds largest cult.

    Ali Kourani Convicted in Manhattan Federal Court for Covert Terrorist Activities on Behalf of Hizballah’s Islamic Jihad Organization
    Ali Kourani Was Trained by Hizballah’s External Terrorist Operations Component and Gathered Intelligence in New York City in Support of Attack-Planning Efforts

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/ali-kourani-convicted-manhattan-federal-court-covert-terrorist-activities-behalf-hizballah-s

    • That is a double-post, and I already pointed out in response earlier that the size of Islamic Jihad is actually rather small compared to any number of cults in the US and worldwide. It’s interesting to note that people are generally unaware of the extent of the phenomenon of various extreme ideological, high control groups and cults around the world.

      For another example, the Unification Church “moonies” are estimated to number 100 times or more the size of Islamic Jihad, well over a million, though they’re probably down to a few thousand in the US. And as far as groups with a history of violence go, the Klu Klux Klan may still be around the same size as Islamic JIhad.

      • While the active members of Jihad may be small compared to other cults, they are far deadlier. Also, the number of their sympathizers is huge, which makes it difficult to tell the difference between a committed badguy and someone who supports them.

      • In response to your double post as you double down on the indefensible fellow members of your violent cult. Another day in the life of your fellow cultists. Stick to defending your fantasy sweetie Kreuk

        NEWARK, New Jersey (WABC) — A New Jersey man who threatened to shoot everyone at a pro-Israel rally and who said he wanted to “bomb Trump Tower” was arrested Wednesday on charges of trying to provide support to Hamas.

        Jonathan Xie, 20, of Basking Ridge, NJ was arrested without incident Wednesday morning and is due to make an initial appearance in federal court in Newark.

        According to court records, Xie thought about joining the Army, quoting him as saying he wanted “to learn how to kill… So I can use that knowledge.”

        He allegedly appeared in an Instagram Live video last month in which he stated he was against Zionism and the neo-liberal establishment. In the same video he displayed a Hamas flag, retrieved a handgun and stated “I’m gonna go to the (expletive) pro-Israel march and I’m going to shoot everybody.”

        In another Instagram post court records quoted Xie as saying “I want to shoot the pro-Israel demonstrators…you can get a gun and shoot your way through or use a vehicle and ram people… all you need is a gun or a vehicle to go on a rampage…”

        Xie’s social media accounts were loaded with terror propaganda, the FBI said, and declarations of support for Bashar al Assad, Saddam Hussein and North Korea.

  • A group blowjob? Mr. Raniere is an amazing and unique source of rich inspiration for porn directors not only horror movie ones. Speechless… How can he live with himself in the nights following these Court testimonies? I would think it completely normal to read he committed suicide and the trial was stopped.

  • It sucks that we can’t see the facial and bodily reactions of VanClown when such testimony is being given on video.

    • One of the interesting things about psychopaths, is that they don’t have the physical “tells” that we rely on in dealing with normal people, to get an idea of whether they are lying (though most people are surprisingly inaccurate at judging that anyway) and other things.

      Reports are that he’s staring pretty intently at those who are testifying. I suspect he’s trying to at least unnerve them, probably in the case of the women seeking to re-establish some rapport that might cause them to testify sympathetically, and perhaps even hoping to more significantly affect them. Raniere is used to getting his way, and controlling people and groups including through use of suggestive and even hypnotic techniques, and so he probably over-estimated his ability to influence the environment of the trial, though he’s likely trying to do what he can just through his presence.

      Hopefully we will eventually hear from witnesses, about what it’s like testifying in front of Raniere.

  • Another day of Lauren testimony with nary a whisper of the “N” word.

    Who designed the brand, Lauren? Who prescribed the Valium? [Mack’s tenant, Dr. Porter? I hear you can get loads cheap w/o a prescription over the border. And Good y’all had the good doc succkered in so young during med school …too bad,btw, mommy dearest couldn’t Pimp you out to that lawyer we heard from on FR under his own name. An in-house brainwashed attorney is a good idea but don’t you know KAR most of all loves virgin sacrifes? A requirement I would suppose for THE Avatar baby mama or grandma wanna be.]

    You took a call from HECTOR – Dani’s dad telling you what his intelligent college bound daughter “wanted” to do? How well did you know Hector? In Mexican traditional, more patriarchal “elite” culture titles such as Senor are far more acceptable outside of an intimate relationship.].

    KAR mentions the “founding fathers” of our fine nation. Boy does that bring back memories of some anti-patriarchal discussions I had with the Vanguard with Gina – staring with those disputable sluts, those “fondling father’s” of our nation who kept slaves and all manner of hedonistic ways to suppress women.

    Thing is, Lauren, your Mommy dearest was in on those. AKA “Dr. Laura” – one of my own mocking nicknames for your fancy pants suited mommy – a riff on the famously annoying love Dr. Laura Schlesinger.

    Ever wonder if Keith kept copies of that collateral he tried through certain Nx friends of Gina’s to extort me with – allegedly having cyber sex online with “strangers” circa 1999. Oh, but I forgot to have my then husband produce his movie on top discouraging his advances and fearing for my life, especially. I was shown 365 downloaded pages – just a copy, of course.]

    When you say, Lauren, the slaves were – amongst yourselves all by your lonesomes – planning to take the blame for “Keith” let’s not be so quick to rule out any others you may so nobly and bravely be taking the blame for.

    I admire your show of remorse but who might have put you in a mental state so unfeeling toward another human you jailed and tortured an innocent, smart, rebel little girl you arrange with her Dad, Hector, to import for KAR as surely as you were on the Bronfman jet to scoop up the sappy Allison Mack?

  • Meanwhile in another New York Federal court a member of the worlds largest cult gets justice

    Ali Kourani Convicted in Manhattan Federal Court for Covert Terrorist Activities on Behalf of Hizballah’s Islamic Jihad Organization
    Ali Kourani Was Trained by Hizballah’s External Terrorist Operations Component and Gathered Intelligence in New York City in Support of Attack-Planning Efforts

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/ali-kourani-convicted-manhattan-federal-court-covert-terrorist-activities-behalf-hizballah-s

    • Wikipedia gives their size as 8,000. That’s smaller than the FLDS, Scientology, the NOI (who aren’t really Muslims), and arguably a couple of others in the US. Worldwide, Raëlism and several others based in Western countries and with significant presence in the US are bigger overall, while there are a number of surprisingly large cults in India.

      For a little more perspective, I thought I’d check the DOJ website for other news, I see that a fundamentalist Christian conspiracy theorist has been indicted:

      California Man Indicted for Federal Hate Crimes Related to Poway Synagogue Shooting and Arson of Escondido Mosque
      https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-man-indicted-federal-hate-crimes-related-poway-synagogue-shooting-and-arson

      • Hey lil fella. I see exposing your cult really triggered you. You defend it as vigorously as you do Kruek. Wikipedia…lol really. Your fellow Brotherhood cultists can edit that to their own whims at any time. You and Shadow boys constant use of Wikipedia is really telling.

        At least we stopped another one of your fellow cultists.

        NEWARK, New Jersey (WABC) — A New Jersey man who threatened to shoot everyone at a pro-Israel rally and who said he wanted to “bomb Trump Tower” was arrested Wednesday on charges of trying to provide support to Hamas.

        Jonathan Xie, 20, of Basking Ridge, NJ was arrested without incident Wednesday morning and is due to make an initial appearance in federal court in Newark.

        According to court records, Xie thought about joining the Army, quoting him as saying he wanted “to learn how to kill… So I can use that knowledge.”

        He allegedly appeared in an Instagram Live video last month in which he stated he was against Zionism and the neo-liberal establishment. In the same video he displayed a Hamas flag, retrieved a handgun and stated “I’m gonna go to the (expletive) pro-Israel march and I’m going to shoot everybody.”

        In another Instagram post court records quoted Xie as saying “I want to shoot the pro-Israel demonstrators…you can get a gun and shoot your way through or use a vehicle and ram people… all you need is a gun or a vehicle to go on a rampage…”

        Xie’s social media accounts were loaded with terror propaganda, the FBI said, and declarations of support for Bashar al Assad, Saddam Hussein and North Korea.

  • “But Lauren decided to go through with the [blow job] commitment ceremony.” The most important word in Ms. Salzman’s quote is the word “decided.” The definition of decide is “(verb) to come to a resolution in the mind as a result of consideration; to cause to come to a resolution; make a choice from a number of alternatives.

    • All of these top eight members of DOS, of their own free will, decided to follow abhorrent courses of action.
      They have no one to blame but themselves if the consequences of their choices turn out to be bad,

      • Hmm collaterals, coercion? nope, doesn’t sound like freewill…but what do i know, i’m not the great Shadowstate…Mr Always right (even when proved wrong)

        • They had the Free Will not to hand lover blackmail material.
          And what’s the big deal about naked pictures and videos?
          You can find billions of naked pictures on the internet.

  • “Lauren Salzman cried copiously while testifying about her cruelty to the Mexican woman [Daniela] confined to a room for almost two years.”

    Why didn’t the Demonic Lauren Salzman cry for Daniela for the two years she was held a prisoner?
    It’s like Heinrich Himmler crying for all of the Jews he helped murder.
    Too Little, Too Late, Lauren.
    ———————————————————————————————————————————-
    “At some point, Lauren told law enforcement that Keith wasn’t involved with DOS and that the branding was the women’s idea.”

    In other words Lauren Salzman is a LIAR.
    ————————————————————-
    “When DOS was exposed, there was a renewed discussion on the subject of Lauren having children ”

    Is that really a good idea?
    Even Heidi Fleiss isn’t talking about having children.
    ——————————————————————————
    “Lauren felt this was disturbing. She was starting to have real concerns. She’d never worked outside of Nxivm.”

    Not to worry, Lauren.
    The billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is in need of a new Pimp and you Lauren have experience for that job.
    And Epstein is protected by Bill Clinton and the DOJ.
    ——————————————————————————————-
    “Lauren didn’t have sympathy for Daniella. ”

    Lauren is a member of NXIVM.
    Lauren only has sympathy for herself.
    All of the members of NXIVM only have sympathy for themselves.

  • There’s more crazy here than you can shake a stick at. Generally, it’s a disturbing portrayal of how Raniere managed to manipulate these women into accepting his juvenile fixations and self-indulgence, by tapping into a mix of desires for self-improvement, and personal weaknesses.

    The reporting over at Tony Ortega’s Underground Bunker includes this from yesterday, painting Nancy Salzman as unaware of her daughter Lauren’s relationship with Raniere – and unaware of his relationship to DOS, was blaming the victims:

    “When Nancy found out about DOS, she was very upset. Lauren lied to Nancy about Keith’s involvement. So Nancy thought that a group of women who didn’t think things through, had jeopardized everything Nancy had worked for, everything she had built for twenty years? Nancy asked, How could you do this? She blamed DOS for destroying her company.”

    It occurs to me that while some groups like Scientology are more obviously Orwellian, ultimately Raniere’s inner circle was much the same: slavery is freedom, submission is strength, and so on.

  • people here often say the reason actresses fell for KAR’s obvious BS was because they hadn’t gone to college. Lauren graduated and look at the dumb things she did.

  • From Rolling Stones

    When police finally kicked down the door, Salzman said, they pushed her to the ground and pointed guns at her. Terrified, she called out Raniere’s name, only for him to emerge from a walk-in closet next to the bedroom. The man Salzman had previously described as “her most important person” – her mentor, spiritual advisor, and lover; the man whose initials she had chosen to brand into the flesh above her abdomen; the man who had taught her the values of love, sacrifice, personal responsibility and courage – had, when confronted with arrest, run away and hidden in a walk-in closet.

    A fracking walk-in closet while Salzman lies on the floor with guns pointed at her head.
    He’s the man

    • Not only hiding in the closet….

      …..Lauren insisted Raniere go out a back window immediately but Raniere, in my opinion chicken/shit, refused to leave the house.

      • Raniere thought he was safer in the house, asking to see if the Mexicans had a search warrant (we don’t need no stinkin’ search warrant, this isn’t the U.S., it’s Mexico). He knew he couldn’t get his pudgy little body out the window and away from the house with it being surrounded by heavily armed Mexican police. Give him credit for being that smart.

        Reminds me of a certain niceguy who said he would come on my radio show and then chickening out. LOL

    • This helped me understand that all the NXIVM cultists I know are psychopaths. I witnessed all of their irrational arguments and it’s the same stuff as what was written here. They can never be improved until the cops put the cuffs on and drag them away

      • ” They can never be improved until the cops put the cuffs on and drag them away”

        Even then they will have relapses.
        I doubt if these women. will ever be totally cured of their madness.

      • Interesting, thanks for contributing your experience.

        High control groups and cults tend to lead their followers to act similarly to their psychopathic leaders. Even more or less normal people become more ruthless, and to engage in ends-justify-the-means rationalizations of things that would normally be considered wrong.

        I suspect that in an extreme case like NXIVM, the inner circle tends to draw in some actual psychopaths, and more than an average number of people with strong sociopathic and psychopathic tendencies. Even in its broader following, NXIVM may have appealed to people who were highly competitive and seeking to come out ahead, and those who believed in winning at any cost.

        Does any of that fit at all with what you saw?

  • You think it cannot get any worse, but it does.

    According to Lauren, Raniere conceptualized turning Jness, SOP, and DOS into his own private army.

    Basically like Jim Jones and David Koresh. Army of God bullshit, spun by a Psychopath, paid for by a liquor fortune, and run by adherents who gladly sold their souls.

    “If God is with Us, who can Stand against US?” Same bullshit written on the belt buckles of Waffen SS soldiers. Same bullshit respun many times over to send young men to their deaths.

    • “According to Lauren, Raniere conceptualized turning Jness, SOP, and DOS into his own private army.”

      The idea was to take over the Mexican government through subversion and blackmail with Emiliano Salinas as the puppet and Raniere as the puppet master.
      Of course the Mexican people would be left out of the mix.

    • Amen, Former NX. There is far more here than meets the eye. I did not fully realize it until carefully reading this blog. Scary, scary, scary. Jim Jones convinced his followers, too, that he was committed to the greater good. Just like our friend Keith. In reality they were after blow jobs, control, and money. (I hope readers have not tired of my comparisons, but they seem so clear and frightening to me.)

      Whatever Lauren did, I cry for her. She got sucked in at such an impressionable age, with her mother’s (possibly well-meaning) support to boot – she did not deserve this horror.

      At 21, I was happily dating, enjoying life, finishing college, and starting a nice career.

      • I initially assumed NXIVM was just a small-time ripoff of NLP and Scientology. I’ve long thought that what Scientology does is the closest thing that exists to brainwashing, but I’m starting to think that Raniere took it even a step further, though on a smaller scale.

    • Former Nexian: I agree, same bullshit that sends young men to their deaths. Indoctrination doesn’t just happen in cults.

    • David Koresh was a Patriot murdered by the BATF. He didn’t ever once claim to be Jesus and he didn’t mistreat anyone. He was actually a very good dude.

  • Important correction at the end: Lauren corrected herself to say that Dani was in the room for one YEAR and three or four months more (she got the year wrong initially).

    • I read elsewhere Lauren testified that Nancy was angry when she found out about DOS because it would destroy her business (Nxivm) which she built up over 20yrs. There is a special place in Hell for this so-called mother.

      • Everyday it just gets more bizarre! Her poor father having to learn what actually went down, with Mom by her side.
        How do they sleep at night? This is sooo wrong, what happened to morals, empathy?

      • Sk,

        We can only hope Nancy gets what’s coming her way…..

        I am personally hoping her cancer comes back….

        • I wouldn’t wish her to get her cancer back (i know how it is, several people in my family had (have) cancer) but if the sentencing could have been changed to something more fitting the implication of Nancy, that would be nice…
          But unfortunately, Plea deal …

          • “At this point, Alex Bentancourt told Lauren that Emiliano was upset because a former DOS slave, Nicole, went to Emiliano and told him she was forced to have sex with Keith.

            Lauren met with Emiliano. He said he was leaving NXIVM – which was a very sad and significant thing for Lauren.”

            Very difficult to grasp. Maybe Emiliano was playing a role to fool Lauren? Rumour was that his own wife was branded, or at least part of DOS. Emiliano was also lying like a politician and very manipulative over Toni Zarattini on May 2017.

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