As I mentioned earlier, people change – and hopefully for the better.
It is the hope of Frank Report that Allison Mack, formerly of Nxivm, now a convicted felon, will reset her life, grow from this horrific experience, and come to live a better, less deceptive life.
But is it that simple – to merely allocute and cry?
In her allocution, she did a lot of crying and a lot of blaming of Keith Raniere.
To repeat some of it, here is what she said:
“I believed that Keith Raniere’s intentions were to help people and that my adherence to his system of beliefs would help empower others and help them. I was wrong…..
“My misguided beliefs and dedication of what I believed were the principles underlying NXIVM, Keith Raniere’s teachings, resulted in my agreeing to support the criminal enterprise….
“At Raniere’s direction, I and other women sought to recruit other women to join DOS….. I concealed Keith Raniere’s role as the head of DOS and characterized DOS as a women’s only organization, knowing that Keith Raniere was the head of the organization…..
“Your Honor, having reviewed the charges against Keith Raniere in the most recent indictment and having many months to reflect on my own actions and motivations of others, I have come to the conclusion that I must take full responsibility for my conduct. And that is why I am pleading guilty today….
“They are good people who I have hurt through my misguided adherence to Keith Raniere’s teachings.”
But is Allison Mack taking “full responsibility? It doesn’t seem so to me. It seems like she is putting the full responsibility on Raniere.
Yet, today, there are women carrying the brutal brand she promoted and admittedly introduced to DOS.
She said so to the New York Times Magazine. Vanessa Grigoriadis, writing for the Times, wrote, “In her apartment, I was surprised to hear Mack take full responsibility for coming up with the DOS cauterized brand. She told me, ‘I was like: “Y’all, a tattoo? People get drunk and tattooed on their ankle ‘BFF,’ or a tramp stamp. I have two tattoos and they mean nothing.”’ She wanted to do something more meaningful, something that took guts.”
Yes, guts or stupidity or callous indifference to the health and well being of others. Or just plain savagery. Allison was thick into it.
Those scars are permanent and I do not know what Mack can do to atone for that. She co-conspired with Raniere to lure women into a sorority – lying to them, directly or by omission – failing to tell them that Raniere was the leader of the DOS “sorority.”
It was not a women-only group. It was led by a man, if you can call him that.
But she is the one who lied. She puts it all on Raniere. He misled her. She was “dedicated” – but to the wrong man.
This lie she told – and she told it – not him – this lie led those women to a kind of doom and they carry the branding scar with his and as some say her initials.
She, as much as Raniere, led them to be branded.
Being branded is a hard thing to overcome. It may be easy for you and I, who were not deceived or branded, to forgive the winsome actress who cried so well before the judge yesterday, but how do the women who were branded feel?
Those women will bear that scar for a lifetime. They endured the trauma of giving collateral to Mack, a woman, and later finding out it was possessed by the monster, and then later seized as evidence in the case against Allison and the beast – and that their collateral – which was to be held as secret – has been seen by dozens – investigators, lawyers, defendants and, in time, the judge and jury.
They must go onward in their lives knowing they have the initials of a pervert, a derelict and child molester on their pubis. Nice going Allison, who led them there.
Allison did a lot of harm and, sure, it’s great she weeps now for her misdeeds.
But it does not efface those deeds and it may not be entirely fair to say the devil Raniere made her do it.
People don’t change that much overnight.
I tried, and tried with Catherine Oxenberg, to persuade Allison to leave Raniere before she was arrested. She would hear nothing of it. No, even after she was arrested and thought she had an excellent chance of beating the rap, did she want to leave the horrid one.
Now, on the eve of trial – with her attorneys undoubtedly saying she is sunk, now she cries and pleads – she is guilty. But still, she says, it was not really her fault. She finally figured it out. She was misled, so misguided – by him.
Her allocation is all but a shifting of blame to Raniere and taking no true responsibility. Her “adherence to Raniere’s teachings” hurt a lot of good people, she says.
But it was his teachings, she says. No, she did not really hurt a lot of good people. It was her adherence to Raniere that hurt good people.
“I believed that Keith Raniere’s intentions were to help people and that my adherence to his system of beliefs would help empower others and help them. I was wrong.”
She is noble. She wanted to help people. Empower them. She believed in the wrong man. That’s her crime, she says, trying to good, but believing in a bad man.
“My misguided beliefs and dedication of what I believed were the principles underlying NXIVM, Keith Raniere’s teachings, resulted in my agreeing to support the criminal enterprise.”
Not her own criminal enterprise that she fully participated in and helped to evolve. No criminal activity, not willful reckless disregard for the welfare of others, but only misguided beliefs and dedication to principles, innocent, misdirected dedication.
She was dedicated, she would have us believe, to goodness, but she was misled. She is not bad. He is bad. Only him. Not her. Her crime was a mere mistake.
It is the difference between a drunken driver and a sober driver. They both run over a person and kill her. The drunken driver committed a crime. The sober driver had an accident.
Allison is claiming it was all an accident. She is not culpable. She believed in Raniere. She was trying to do good. How she could know he was so bad? It took all these months of introspection and the latest, final charges against Raniere for her to finally realize she was following a bad man.
Before that, she thought she was doing good. To hear her tell it, her taking “full responsibility” is almost a gesture of nobility. She is taking full responsibility, not for criminality but for her mistaken belief in Keith.
“Your Honor, having reviewed the charges against Keith Raniere in the most recent indictment and having many months to reflect on my own actions and motivations of others, I have come to the conclusion that I must take full responsibility for my conduct. And that is why I am pleading guilty today”
She did no wrong with a motive to do wrong. She says her motives were good and pure. Never once does she say she was ill-intended. She had no mens rea, no intent to commit crimes. She says she finally realized that “They are good people who I have hurt through my misguided adherence to Keith Raniere’s teachings.”
In other words, Keith is bad and she is misguided. It was an accident. She meant no harm, none whatsoever. She meant to do good, she says.
It is really a remarkable allocution. One where she claims to be blameless – Keith misled her and she accidentally misled others. And the judge accepted it.
Very good. I don’t know that I would have.
Funny, she only realized her mistake after she realized she wasn’t getting out of this jam she and Raniere created.
So Allison will likely get a light sentence. She is an appealing woman, who cries on cue and it seems a shame to punish someone so lovely too harshly.
Keith is ugly, Clare is dour. It is easy to punish them.
Yet, beyond the surface of this lovely face and figure is the deep mark she helped put on some 150 women. Etched on their skin is her mark – not just Raniere’s, not just her misguided adherence to his teachings,
It was her teachings too – she, the slave master. Allison was the woman the victims bought into – and their adherence to her misguided and criminal teachings.
Women believed Allison Mack’s intentions were to help people, and their adherence to her system of beliefs would help empower them. They were wrong. They now realize she engaged in criminal conduct.
She recruited women to DOS and concealed Raniere’s role as head of DOS and characterized DOS as a women-only organization.
These are good people who were hurt through their misguided faith in Allison Mack and her teachings. It is not quite right – nor is it honest – to put all the blame on Keith Raniere.
Her allocution strikes me as a sham. Full bullshit; a lie to get out of trouble. Taking no responsibility, not really, for the harm she devised and fully implemented with Keith at her back.
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Dear prolific Mexican anonymous,
You lie when you claim this site defends Raniere, it doesn’t matter how many times you post this falsehood, you lack even the requisite skill to make it *sound* true.
You must be in a terrible state at the moment, I wouldn’t want to be in your shoes, desperately defending the indefensible and at the eleventh hour too.
I hope you get what you deserve in this context – nothing more, nothing less. Bear in mind, if you were to wish the same for me, or indeed anyone who has assisted Frank Parlato in this worthy cause – it would be a compliment and a blessing, as Justice is about to be served.
I’d been meaning to note that, confusingly, we seem to have at least 2 Mack fan apologists posting as “Anonymous” with very poor English writing ability.
One is clearly not a native English speaker, though as a fluent SSL (Spanish) and volunteer ESL teacher, I don’t recognize in their writing the typical errors of native Spanish speakers. But they could be a Mexican whose English is the product of some sort of hybrid environment, such as having learned their English informally from a native German speaker – they sometimes fall in to the capitalization of nouns typical of Germanic languages, though, again, I don’t recognize their grammatical errors as typical of German speakers, either.
The other might be a native English speaker, but a product of something like the sort of devoutly religious-focused homeschooling* that results in minimal acquisition of real-world skills like writing and mathematics. That could also explain someone who then fell into Mack’s cult of personality.
* Yes, there’s some good homeschooling, but there’s also some that’s very bad, trying to get away with as little conventional learning as possible while focusing on religious indoctrination instead – the Jehovah’s Witnesses, considered by many to be a cult, are infamous for the latter, actively discouraging youth from going on to college, and some segments of Scientology are very similar
I think AnonyMaker has a crush on Heidi. Keep up with the word salad.
Heidi is one of the people here who seem knowledgeable and thoughtful enough, and probably decent enough people in real life, that I’d enjoy the opportunity to get together with them sometime. In particular she seems to have some insight into Raniere’s early days and influences, that are especially down my line of interest. But lovely as she might be, not really my type in any other sense, for reasons I’ll have to leave you to guess.
Indeed, I’ll soldier on, trying to put the brakes on the TL;DR. We’ll see.
Oh, and as far as a get-together, I suggested the idea of something at Silver Bay in the 3rd week of August, maybe a Parasite Day this year to start planning for a Vangone Week conference in the future. I’ll buy the first round at the snack bar there, and a nearby real bar later on – Heidi or no Heidi.
My guess, Anony, is that you are a heterosexual woman. But I’ve been mistaken in this masquerade as to identities, please don’t take offense if I’m wrong. I’ve mentioned I enjoy your obviously informed posts, too, and would welcome a meeting of the minds in person among FR readers of all kinds excluding the assholes — you know who you are.
Agreed. This last decade I have come to equate homeschooling with the victorian practice of keeping a maid of all parts, as there has been a worrying trend, of keeping high school age girls home to substitute for punitive childcare costs at best.. at worst, well, along with religious schools: madrassa’s Yeshiva’s and tabernacles, I feel there is a strong element of exploitation, an increase in the possibility, certainly.
Spanish second language errors, especially in a confident relatively fluent speaker, are as rule, of the kind seen in her comments small subj/vb glitches, lazy inflection, but its the sound of the syntax, the cadence of it that gives it away in my view. You can spot even in academic prose, if an ESL candidate is Russian/ eastern European, their lazy mistake is to omit articles (the, a, an) The French revert to adj. first word order, in noun phrases etc. not an exact science, just nearly thirty years marking CPE and IELTS papers. The biggest clue is that we’re here though, on the FR. I think you’re right about cults preferring minimal education in its members.
It is curious that homeschooling is more common for girls – even among well-educated progressive mothers who would be loath to admit to any sort of sexism.
It sounds like you have a lot of ESL and related experience, so I’ll defer to you if you find it plausible that the ESL commenter/s could be Mexican, which indeed makes sense in the context of NXIVM. I know what you’re talking about, when the errors are more obvious I also can often tell between Spanish and other Latin language speakers, Germanic, Slavic, Asian, etc., but I don’t have your familiarity with the subtleties.
In high control groups or cults, homeschooling and private schools – like Rainbow Cultural Gardens – are yet another aspect of milieu control. Then most groups are too small to have their own higher education institutions where followers can be kept isolated, though as in the case of the JWs that can go hand-in-hand with a sort of anti-intellectual attitude so pervasive that they would be hard pressed to run an institution providing a broadly based and rigorous enough education to get accreditation, even if they tried.
Could also be a Rainbow Garden student or Ben. He capitalizes a lot of words as well. Public education isn’t something to brag about, either.
Back in the days of the TWoP forums when Smallville was on the air, there were lots of Mack fans who insisted against all reality that her character Chloe was the real Lois Lane, and got downright scary and vindictive about it. It was really wild, and illustrative of all the kookiness out there. So I’m fully prepared for posts defending Allison to the last, despite her confession and all the evidence.
My bet is on a well educated English speaking person using a mobile device, writing on the rush with dictionary intentionally deactivated… (You can pair a BT keyboard with your mobile device !)
All justice systems world wide are pretty well unpredictable. So, although the result should be jail sentences. Watch this space, as is often said. The victims are innocent, the perpetrators are guilty.
BTW, in the yesterday text i posted but waited a day to post, i forgot to add how stupid it is to defend Raniere like you do.
A few days ago (before the plea deal) , you admitted that Raniere was trying to bring the fall on Allison (the analyse of the NYtimes interview)…Something that anyone with a clean mind would have clearly seen a long ago.
A forced interview, Under pressure of Raniere…While we know she isn’t the person behind the branding idea…
And today, you go in a vendetta saying that Allison is staging Raniere’s fall (which for everyone (including the victims) is a sweet revenge, you flip (one of the many time you did that) your jacket.
You never cared about the vicitms and if we talk about exploitation…Who is ,at the moment, exploiting the victims AND Allison mack AND any commenter on his website?
You have 1 interest and that’s money.
Also, if you pull the hair (like you like to do) about how one is responsible for this or that. What is your responsibility when you save 20+ millions for the Bronfmans?
Maybe it wouldn’t have been that far if it wasn’t for you?
See? i can also pull stupid “fact” out of nowhere.
Are you Rosa Laura Junco? this would account for your ESL errors, AND your poor critical thinking. Very ‘Aristotle’s Knife’ or ‘The Knife’ as it came to be known after your imbecilic nxivm news agency fair murdered Aristotlean thought and buried it beneath way too big a pile of very low quality BS.
Poor critical thinking huh…I’m not the one who come with the stupid assumption that i’m Rosa…
And i doubt Rosa would really go against Raniere…
There are too many of you flacitas to keep track of, for sure. Whoever you are, it seems, seeing through Raniere now, entitles you to a little schadenfreude at Rosa’s expense. Nothing more sad than a scramble for the moral high ground among people sunk so very low.
You fly too low for me to acknowledge you anymore…
The legal process isn’t about vindicating the rights of victims, it’s about punishing the perp, discouraging others from doing similar things, and bringing some measure of justice to the victim(s). Rights don’t have to be vindicated, they are written in the Constitution and other federal, state, and local laws that expand on the details.
Is it true that these nxivm folks hacked into judges emails to further their enterprise? Some blonde on a you tube upload said it. Is it true?
Yes, it’s true.
To be quite honest all these “sex slavers” deserve nothing less than Imprisonment. God forbid all the mothers get their hands on them. They all lied and used friends as means of destruction. Money couldn’t be enough. Self sacrifices and blood had to be shed. This organization actually took the lives of innocent girls. Stole the most precious God given thing. In their time of darkness only God and Judge shall have mercy. The old line, “I didn’t Know” is a famous line said by criminals.
Frank are the same charges that have been dropped able to be picked up in Albany?
You can’t blame Allison for that allocution statement.
Sure — it was insincere and phony sounding.
But she was just reading it aloud like a script.
She didn’t write it herself nor is she capable of such a feat. Why blame her for it?
She’s not a fucking script writer. She’s an actress. Different profession.
She did the only thing she knows how to do. She performed.
She read it aloud as though it was a script from a ‘straight-to-video’ movie — such as one of Heidi’s finest performances back in the day. 🙂
I’m still not sure who’s a worse actress, Heidi or Allie Whack?
The REAL problem with her allocution statement is that it was written by somebody like Claviger.
Not him of course, but another like-minded defense counsel with the same perspective. These guys spend their days telling clients that the world isn’t black and white — but rather a million shades of grey.
They spend their days telling clients that ‘guilt’ is only a matter of perspective and not a factual reality.
Thus, her allocution was merely a reflection of these soulless scribes who make the world a worse place just by breathing our air. 🙂
Am I wrong, Claviger?
Burn in hell, Claviger!
That’s more like it, I was worried when you said something nice to Claviger a few days ago.
I think this was very well written. You’re right, Frank, she isn’t taking full responsibility for her actions and is deferring the blame to keith. But it’s all she can do right now, kind of. She could shoulder more of the blame. But that might get her more of a punishment. And that’s why she didn’t. Judge Garaufis, I hope, can see it for what it is. I hope he gives her a harsher penalty for trying to defer blame. I would hope, had she taken full responsibility (no doubt at the disapproval of her attorneys) that the Judge would have been a little more lenient with her sentencing. I don’t know if the Judge sees it this way or not. Maybe her attorneys are right: don’t incriminate yourself – soften it. The Judge, in reality, should do the opposite of what her attorneys advised – and probably even wrote for her. The Judge should give her a harsher penalty for trying to defer blame. And should have shown leniency had she taken full responsibility for herself. Indeed, her atonement would be more complete if she is given more time in prison to finally own up to her actions. A true change of heart will take time. And giving her a lighter sentence because she didn’t incriminate herself will not give her the time to finally take full responsibility.
If she owned everything she has done. And I mean everything – to the point of asking the Judge to give her the maximum time for how heinous her crimes are, if I were the Judge, I would show leniency. Because that would mean her heart is in the right place, and she won’t need as much time in prison to atone for what she has done.
In this case, however, because she is deferring blame – I say the judge throws the book at her. And rightly so.
But, as shitty as the justice system is, her strategy to defer blame will probably help her skate. Her attorneys are probably right. And it’s a load of bull shit. But that’s how the system works for the rich and famous.
The lesson will be (I hope not, Judge Garaufis – and I hope you read this): “Don’t take full responsibility. Defer blame. And get a lighter sentence.”
The judge is going to be weighing a lot more than her tearful statement on September 11, 2019.
She was loved-bombed into the group. You have to separate the teachings of Nxivm from the techniques that were used for seduction.
There is nothing uglier than a poor winner….hint hint.
“loved-bombed”
Poor Allison.
She was praised and flattered so much that she lost her mind.
it must have been sheer torture to be praised so much.
“You have to separate the teachings of Nxivm from the techniques” – please tell me that isn’t the first rumbings of NXIVM apologism by remaining loyalists….
“Independent” scientologists no longer in the “church” claim that it’s possible to separate the teachings (and behavior) of L. Ron Hubbard from the “tech” of Dianetics and Scientology. While theoretically that could be true, the reality is that manipulative narcissistic psychopath leaders tend to “bake in” their warped worldview into a mess of ideology and organizational culture that could never actually be sorted out or fixed, and the only “tech” that might be valuable is bits and pieces stolen from other disciplines like psychotherapy and hypnotherapy, anyway.
Thanks Leon!
Agree, AnonyMaker. If you think there is valuable tech in NXIVM, go get the tech from the place it was stolen from.
With one exception – the teachings on shifters, levelers, luciferians, psychopaths etc., were a deep dive look into Keith’s brain. I believe the info that came from these teachings can help you notice or call out this behavior in others.
I agree – high control groups or cults in general tend to be about their founder’s personalities and psychopathies, and trying to impose them on the followers. The leaders often seem surprisingly glib at detailing and categorizing their own obsessions and compulsions, typically directed as accusations against outsiders – psychological projection, essentially – without fear that their followers will then see through them.
In your list I recognize all but one term from other sources. But a quick search then shows “leveler” as a term used in psychology, and “leveling” as one used in Gestalt – itself a bit of a synthesis, as well as a source for others that came after – though I don’t know exactly how Raniere used it.
He used it as in “cutting someone off at the knee”. And “I can’t do as well as them, so I’ll bring them down to my level.” He had a list of phrases to signal someone was doing this – dumb blonde, stupid jock, he’s a space cadet etc.
Love bombardment only works when the person allows it to happen you idiot. It comes from low self-esteem and lack of moral compass. Cult leaders can spot their victims when they walk in the room.
Allison Mack, as with all other NXIVM members, had free will.
No one at NXIVM was confined (except one we know of). They had choice of what to eat, how much to sleep, who to be in relationships with, what to do with their life savings, what legal and moral lines to cross over. No one had a gun to their head.
There were people who walked through the door of NXIVM that Raniere wanted to fuck, they didn’t sleep with him.
There were people richer than the Bronfman sisters who NXIVM tried to extract their money from, they didn’t open their check books.
There are people who NXIVM tested to do illegal behaviors, they did not step over those lines.
Allison bought into NXIVM criminal enterprise hook, line and sinker. She has mo one to blame but herself for her actions.
It’s not so black and white when it comes to issues of undue influence, though – not quite “brainwashing” but a step or two short of that, perhaps particularly for people who are more susceptible to suggestive techniques and hypnosis of the type often employed by groups like NXIVM.
We recognize, for instance, that minors and seniors may be susceptible to undue influence – a term actually used in the law – but might adults be, or at least under some circumstances, as well?
That’s why, for instance, some states have laws requiring a 3-day “cooling off” period after signing certain sorts of contracts – they recognize that people can be talked into things in the heat of the moment and under various social and psychological pressures, that they may re-considered after having time to reflect.
I don’t think it absolves people who get in as deep as engaging in illegal behaviors, and I don’t know whether or not it necessarily applies to Mack individually – though the PhD psychologist who commented the other day, indicated that she probably had a type of personality very susceptible to being manipulated by others.
I wish I was not so cynical. But, I do find it troubling that a person who is as old as Ms. Mack would need such pressure in order to 1) realize it hurt for people to be branded 2) realize sexual torture hurts people 3) realize blackmail is actually a crime. I guess the list could be much longer. Here is something interesting: “How delightful are the pleasures of the imagination! In those delectable moments, the whole world is ours; not a single creature resists us, we devastate the world, we repopulate it with new objects which, in turn, we immolate. The means to every crime is ours, and we employ them all, we multiply the horror a hundredfold. —Marquis de Sade, Les prospérités du vice” for whom sadism was named.
Kristin kreuk has something in her instagram that might be relevant to this!! Take a peek -hint. The word “sorry “
Link?
I don’t see it. Do you have another hint?
Kalel: I’m not seeing the word sorry anywhere on her IG. Is that the point? Or am I missing something?
By clicking KK portrait evanrachelwoods gas lighting red flags will pop.
Kristin Kreuk pretending to be a naive victim. Not impressed.
The allocution was the spearhead of a deal. I doubt that Mack even wrote it but was the one who had to read it aloud like a recitation. I don’t think that it is even within her vocabulary.
Probably she was lovebombed into the group, not for herself, but for her scrap of fame and whatever money she could muster. Plus she was an extra vagina. An “ideally” sexually repressed one at that. So, just Raniere’s typecast type. And she went wild with it because of who she is rather than despite who she is.
She appears to be a chronically immature Peter Pan female with an unconscionable hateful streak. She gave herself permission to act upon it. She seems to have thrived harming, degrading and allowing herself to have power over others, and particularly women. She is not a sexy or an alluring person. Who knows how much anger and jealousy she was carrying or still carries? She hooked into the perfect cult for herself, to bankrupt herself physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually.
She appears to be getting away with much of what she chose to do, without the sex-related charges to come back to haunt her in court. Only she knows about her levels of repentance or sincerity. The road is long.
From her own lips “…who were interested in trying to become better people and in doing so make those around them better.” Imagine thinking sadistic branding of people, along with other horrible acts, makes you feel you had finally found a place where you fit in.
“She appears to be a chronically immature Peter Pan female with an unconscionable hateful streak. She gave herself permission to act upon it. She seems to have thrived harming, degrading and allowing herself to have power over others, and particularly women.;
Bingo.
You’ve made the perfect description of Allison Mack.
Only a woman who hates women can do what Allison Mack did.
I think a dude could do what Mack did.
“I think a dude could do what Mack did.”
Scott,
Other than inner city pimps who brands women?
Someone with a pathological hatred of women.
pathological hatred towards women.
shadow you just talk trash, as if you knew or knew how was the relationship of women within NXIVM, jness or Two the only thing you know is superficial information and you create a whole movie with that, I bet if I asked you for some names in jness you would not know them just because you focused on her and the accusation and your own imagination where you are shooting down the all powerful and evil ally mack, as the detective man is supposed to hate women and most of his friends are women. her work as an actress as in NXIVM, the person who convinced her to attend that weekend with the teachers of NXIVM, was a woman, her best friend, almost a sister Kristin Kreuk, the bombardment of love she received on that occasion He seduced her into entering NXIVM, he got it from women who wanted to convince her, the best friends that he made who belonged to the inner circle such as Lauren, Nancy, Sarha and Pam all women, who sold him the inflated image as a balloon. and hello of KAR were women the people with whom more time spent in jness guesses that, were women, women who really hate other women have very few friends and are usually only cronies.
Your Honor, I freely confess my crimes, but I wouldn’t be standing before you if I hadn’t been lured into this cult by that bitch-goddess Kristin Kreuk!
Hey Everyone,
Frank did not write that Allison Mack should go to prison for 20 years and burn in hell.
He is attempting to communicate that she is not actually deserving of sympathy because she is not accepting guilt and therefore not truly repentant.
I think many of you are reading too much into what Frank actually wrote.
Not accepting guilt and not being repentant indicates she should sent to prison for 40 years. Otherwise, she is bound to do the same kinds of things again, and society needs to be protected from those types of people.
I agree, Nice Guy. And because she’s not taking full responsibility, that is the very reason the Judge should give her more time – so she can get to that point.
Some times Mr Parlato’s educated guidance reads on deaf ears. “He is attempting to communicate that she is not actually deserving of sympathy because she is not accepting guilt and therefore not truly repentant”. And hence for miss mack she may just never get it.
September her true self realization starts. Bibles are free in jail. Good luck girl
First of all, everything she said on her allocution is spot on with the reality. Raniere was teaching them to accept things they wouldn’t normally.
Then what are you doing? She is now as bad as Raniere? How about you go fully like shadow did and say he is the scapegoat!
The thruth is that she wasn’t at all behind the branding (and you know it)…She was one of the girl convinced to be behind it and that is a fact as some other member
claimed to be the person behind. And none of them were, it’s was Raniere who made it happen.
She does take responsability (and will pay with prison time) the fact she followed blindly a fraud, a monster.
As for changing:
First, Allison was a good person before Nxivm, that is the general consensus.
She was pushed to become (through the years) the person she became.
Some of the person who met her around 2013 said that back then , she was already Under the unfit diet and sleep deprivation (interview with 2 girls whom Allison tried to recruit)
Do you understand the effect of this diet ? of the sleep deprivation?
This silly post of yours is actually what happen when someone is getting tired but still try to write something meaningful…
A journalist tried the diet (without sleep deprivation) and explained that the effect were devastating. She wasn’t able to thing properly and was so scared by this that she got back to a normal diet.
You are basically telling that a year of introspection ,with a huge change on the diet and no sleep deprivation had no effect and that she couldn’t be feeling like she do?
How long should it take then?
Also, a reminder, it didn’t took that long to India to get back in control of her mind…
The marking was only said by you to be her initials, Toni Nathalie said that she didn’t believe it was hers has Raniere was not sharing.
Knowing she wasn’t not the leader of DOS, nor the creator of it, nor the creator of the branding. you are just pulling “facts” out of your ass.
At worst it’s a coincidence, at best a way for Raniere to put the fall on Allison.
The only one full of BS here is definatly you.
You spend WAY too much time with the wrong persons and that’s why a lot of victims avoid your website.
Raniere is the big bad wolf here, not the girls.
Frank, did you ever meet Allison Mack and/or Kristin Kreuk?
This is a spot-on assessment of this septic tank refugee. People that don’t agree need to be reminded of the age-old adage – “How do you tell when a nvixm member is lying? Their lips are moving.”
Any of these turds that copping a plea, are just looking out of themselves. Period. Remorse? For what the first time you committed these acts or the countless others over the course of 20 years. What? What are you sorry about? Sorry excuse for human, I agree.
This is a f-list actress who appeared on some suck ass show you could only watch blackout drunk on a third tier “network” trying to give a perform of a lifetime.
If this was truly a remorseful ethical being it would have no problem volunteering to be caned until the flesh is hanging off her bones while her victims tell her to remember her master and feel the pain.
What was the first time you committed these acts or the innumerable others over the course of 20 years? What? What do you regret? Sorry apology for the human, I agree.
do not say nonsense, she was not 20 years in this group and remember this is SUPONE is a company that offers self-help programs, where many people went without committing any crimes and others simply stayed so long that they were exploited by the leader and the inner circle some like her to get more involved with this inner circle and the leader himself were slowly twisted, but none of this happened overnight, she was not even in the inner circle but until I finish smallville, which you suppose you do here if you do not even bother to read the whole story that frank and I publish you just have to look in the archives, you are simply letting yourself be guided by other comments without knowing a tenth part of the story, remember that this is a cult and if someone enters a cult and lasts so long it is natural that the change does not pass so quickly, but you can not expect her to shed all her conscience in an assignment before the judge, she She only followed the advice of her lawyers. At least she can say that she made an apology to the victims, Lauren and Nancy did nothing and to say of Oxenberg India that thanks to her mother and grandmother she never respected anything and there was evidence for an accusation and Even so, what happened?
What about Edgar Boone? And all the people from Mexico?
I’ve been hearing that all the members that stayed loyal to NXIVM are crazier than ever.
I have noticed that many of the comments are combative with Frank’s viewpoint and analysis of Allison Mack’s remorse or lack there of.
Where is all the sympathy for the women that were branded and coerced through collateral i.e. blackmail to do work and provide services for free including sex ?
Wher are your tears and your sympathy for those women? Many of whom were tricked by Allison Mack to provide collateral.
“Where is all the sympathy for the women that were branded and coerced through collateral i.e. blackmail to do work and provide services for free including sex ?”
You’re right.
This legal process should be about vindicating the rights of the victims.
The victims are only mentioned in passing.
they are also with the victims, but if I asked you how many names of allison victims you know, that you would answer me, I’m sure you would not have a fasil answer since you lack information and that’s why you forget important details like the fact that allison was not the only one recruiter inside Dos, there were several teachers, so I ask you and where is the anger and hatred for the other slave teachers and their victims because they do not speak, it will be because the only one we have worried about that receives all the I hate her.
This is a beautiful, soulful expression of how you feel, I know.
I really don’t know enough, granted not half as much as you, Frank, about Allison’s involvement with KAR, himself. the cult or any members to in any way negate your sincere, very well informed opinion. You actually knew Allison for a brief time. I’ve never met her.
I only know that my sister, Gina, her life goal and purpose was always to understand, help others and elevate herself and humanity through compassion. And she followed and supported Keith’s teachings, allowed herself to be manipulated, experimented on, used, believing that was also his mission and that she was or would be (one of) his partners in helping achieve that.
Maybe I’m too inclined to impute that good, pure intent that anyone who knew Gina knew she embraced onto this generation of victims.
I also know that Keith and Nancy and their minions corrupted people — especially young women and girls — and boys and men to accept and abet the exploitation and corruption.
Maybe Allison was “turned,” did become somewhat of a sociopath regardless of what natural propensity or not she prepossessed and that’s a factor that’s felt and well expressed here that cannot be ignored.
Heidi, out of everyone here i thought you would understand how wrong Frank is.
Allison was an adorable person before she got involved with Nxivm.
Just like for your sister, Raniere abused Allison mentally (and physically)… He was (and you know it) the one who made the decision and
was the only in command.
Up until she was in DOS, Allison was still decent but was following Raniere’s idea.
Frank will not listen to anyone (but shadow) , it’s obvious.
He didn’t made a fuzz when others did a plea deal but Allison…Oh no, the monster
He is almost defending KAR (and don’t say the contrary Frank, you haven’t published my early comment challenging your ridiculous article)
Frank IS Mr. Shadow. For several months, you have accused me of being various other commenters, even though I’m one of the very few who use my real name and have not done that. Frank obviously thought it would be a good idea to write stories and comments from “someone else’s” point of view. LOL
“Frank IS Mr. Shadow.”
Frank is expressing is own opinions.
Every decent person should be outraged at Allison Mack’s actions.
Regardless of why Allison Mack tortured women. whether out of jealousy or sadism or getting a sense of power or to please Raniere, her actions are indefensible.
Disingenuous much? You omit the main point concerning Mack’s culpability over the violence, premeditated, protracted violence, of the pubic branding and you do this by making a spurious comparison with Gina Hutchinson, to persuade her sister of your bizarre argument against Frank? is this what an EM sounds like? talk about clutching at straws.
What violence? moron? There is no mention of violence in the court files…
You are a just of on those brain empty morons who Believe everything they read…here.
the branding was not her idea, not her concept, it was CLEARLY proved and only FP still maintain this.
Oh Dear. Unfortunately for you, there is evidence to the contrary. Im afraid she has taken responsibility in a very public way – read the article, go on chica, fill your boots.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/magazine/sex-cult-empowerment-nxivm-keith-raniere.html
‘In her apartment, I was surprised to hear Mack take full responsibility for coming up with the DOS cauterized brand. She told me, “I was like: ‘Y’all, a tattoo? People get drunk and tattooed on their ankle ‘BFF,’ or a tramp stamp. I have two tattoos and they mean nothing.’ ” She wanted to do something more meaningful, something that took guts.’
Oh Dear. Unfortunately for you, there is evidence to the contrary. Im afraid she has taken responsibility in a very public way – read the article, go on chica, fill your boots.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/magazine/sex-cult-empowerment-nxivm-keith-raniere.html
‘In her apartment, I was surprised to hear Mack take full responsibility for coming up with the DOS cauterized brand. She told me, “I was like: ‘Y’all, a tattoo? People get drunk and tattooed on their ankle ‘BFF,’ or a tramp stamp. I have two tattoos and they mean nothing.’ ” She wanted to do something more meaningful, something that took guts.’
Except that this interview was Under pressure…That’s hardly a prove.
And court document show that it’s not her responsability but it was Raniere behind. He decided who would get the branding, conceived it …
Only a moron Believe that story.
Oh and BTW even Frank posted (a few days ago) that it was an obvious scam for Allison to take the fall.
1 advice, buy a brain and a personnality (instead of stupidly believing everything you read without critical thinking)
your insults like your understanding, are so childish and unworldly, the punch line always ‘critical thinking’ as if invoking a magic spell, you have a somewhat other-worldly way with reasoning – were/ are you in a cult?
Claro que si :You know what, you are right, my answer including some facts was definatly more childish than yours just pointing the fact that you are a moron.
But there again, i’m pointing facts! you are a moron if you blindly Believe an interview that was said (by the interviewer) to be Under pressure…
Sorry but only a moron can Believe that.
So call me childish if you want.
And Using an forced interview (that i repeat, even Frank doubted about not long ago) for Critical thinking…i doubt you even understand the meaning of critical thinking.
Did you actually know Mack personally, or are you just making assumptions based on impressions you’ve gotten from media and websites favorable to Mack?
It occurred to me that one thing to keep in mind, is that Mack had an agent, and possibly also media handlers, who spent years cultivating and protecting the “girl next door” image and the fan base based on it, which was valuable and continued to produce revenue such as for appearances at fan cons even after Mack left Smallville.
Do you know Allison Mack personally, AnonyMaker (Leon)? Please stop trying to diagnose others from afar.
I’m not “Leon” – that’s a failed diagnosis!
What here isn’t some sort of attempt at analysis from afar? I think there are at most one or two people commenting who ever had any real personal contact with Mack, and that was minimal and long ago – except for the possibility of some loyalists from the inner circle posting defensive pieces that are so without value as to be indistinguishable from trolling.
I think some objective analysis, and maybe even a bit of diagnosis, is fair game – that is what keen observers, and even authors, often have to do. I object to the apparent dedicated long-term fans who reflexively defend her, acting borderline stalker-like in pretending to somehow know her – they are, in essence, part of her cult of personality, themselves lost in some of the same mental mistakes as actual cult members.
It’s important to learn some lessons from these groups and those involved in them, and we’re almost never going to have a formal, expert diagnosis to work off of.
I agree with the other Anonymous (i’m the one you are asking the question) .
I Don’t have to answer this stupid question as you keep going about your stupid baseless assumptions.
You are an absolute moron and i feel like answering could make me lose neurons everytime so excuse me while i Don’t give a crap about your next questions from now on
That is also my Heidi thought, besides many things just can not be said in a situation like the one that she has at this moment will have to spend time so she can be more open to tell the whole truth. But on the other hand it seems to me that frank has fallen into the same shadow error of seeing her with more responsibility than other women in DOS or haren and in NXIVM, they even use the number 150 to refer to the women in DOS that allison hurt and forget that said number was presented by the KAR lawyer to say that was the number of women who had DOS at its best and that inclulle to her as well as also include nicky, lauren, india, pink laura, daniel roberts and all others women who were already part of the haren before the existence of DOS, so this mistake seems to me an attempt always to demonize her more than any other of the women when the same stories published by frank show that they do not It was like this, finally I think that there are things that happen in a way that had to happen in that way so that they happen, that is, it was the only possible way given the circumstances. An example of this is how I found this blog, I was just looking for information about the relationship of allison mack and this guy keith raenier who she started talking about in 2016 and it was like that and ended up finding sources that spoke about the KAR and about NXIVM and one of these sources was FRANK REPORT. On the other hand I remember well that frank also used the fame of allison as a bait clip at the time and it worked, so why complain so much with her if in the end if things had gone different as ejp.que she had left the cult but he would have refused to speak, then his fame would not have served so that many people were interested in knowing more about the messiah of albany.
It’s not just Frank, among the counts the grand jury returned based on reasonable cause, were three counts of sex trafficking in which Raniere and Mack were the only named individuals, plus there was also one count in which Mack was the only person named. That jury, made of up of people off the street like us, but who heard witnesses and saw evidence to which we are not privy, clearly determined that Mack was a more key and culpable player than any other woman in DOS, second only to or even on a par with Raniere himself.
I know that this can be hard to take for those who were part of Mack’s cult of personality from her Smallville days.
you are confusing the information presented by the federals and the one presented by Frank in this blog.
you have to take into account that the federals presented information that served their interests, given that KAR, allison, clear, nancy and lauren were identified as leaders in the US, they did not bother the role of the other teachers since the guarantee reached hands of allison and KAR for being the two rungs at the top of the pyramid which gives them authority over the others but,
1-the warranty was charged in a common dropbox account, before reaching KAR, which means that anyone could download the guarantee of others including the same allison.
2-the orders came in a decendent form in the pyramid, so they had to pass obligatorily through the slave masters to whom the inferior slaves belonged.
3-the DOS, was formed mainly by women of the haren of KAR which was much larger than the number of 150 that came to be in DOS at its best and I reiterate what I said other times, this number inclulle to it Allison and the other slave teachers, for which demaciadas women knew and accepted that this group was KAR’s idea and that he was behind the decisions that were made.
4-most of what was released by DOJ had already been published by Frank, so there were almost no new things, including the sexual abuse of the 15-year-old girl who is now KAR’s slave, the rest is mostly an accusation based on the possibilities that the evidence could demonstrate or suggest, as for example: the charges for electronic fraud that within the stories published by Frank were already mentioned as a possibility, given the guarantees that were obtained from the slaves and how said guarantees are known as those that had to do with confessions were false or not, they aim to inculcate fear of leaving the group.
5-the women in DOS were not all the time together so that the control over them was something permanent in particular, a control on the part of a single person, again it is a whole system where all the slave teachers were a part, but it is sure to say that the important decisions or that supposed evidence for a trial were made by KAR, allison, lauren and maybe clear.
6-barias women left in silence and their guarantees were never used, since the KAR deception would fall completely if all the women realize that he is willing to use the guarantee as a real blackmailer, the guarantee was told was for teaching women honor, loyalty and commitment to their vows and promises, if KAR had released her, it would show that really anyone who had a guarantee would have to fear him, and that would break the illusion about his image of being a noble man more elvate than the others .
Hi, Anonymous ! Thank you for your clever point of view !
Sorry for bothering you with this, but just in case…, you can pair a BlueTooth keyboard with your smartphone/tablet (afaik there is no mouse driver for smartphone/tablets).
It can be really helpful if you get a stand for your device as well…
But again sorry for bothering with this…
It’s my observation that one of the things that goes on in high control groups or cults is that a sociopathic or psychopathic (and arguably also narcissistic) leader tries to imprint their personality traits and worldview on their followers, typically attracting idealists and then essentially bringing out the worst in them, getting them to operate under an ends-justify-the-means rationale. But in some cases, the group and its leader manage to attract already pathological personalities, who simply find free reign to do the sort of things for which they already have a strong propensity.
Yours is an eloquent reminder that innocents can fall under the sway of such leaders and groups. But as Frank points out, Mack became deeply involved in some of the worst things, and that leaves the question of what sort of person she was to begin with.
Germane to the law of attraction you mention; consider the lengthy list of big name, world class, pathological psychos swirling around NXIVM. Though I dare not single them out — not until after a glass of vino.
IDK who’ll bob up next but Ben Szemeckus couldn’t make a list like this up.
And your observation are bogus, Shadow’s brother. your got with a stupid psycho babble like you are in the mind of those involved and the fact is , you know shit !
Well done sherlock
There you go again anonima, proving the bleak limitations of cult-think.
Dear Frank – Shadow is somehow posting under your name.
– It wasn’t easy to leave Keith. Ask Toni, Barbara, and Kristen Keefe how easy it is. This makes it easier to talk yourself into staying with the psychopath – vs. suddenly taking the advice of Frank Parlato and your friend’s mother.
The poor, weak women. It’s as if we never had women’s lib. Feminazis want all the benefits and none of the downsides of being considered equal. You should have stayed on your perches.
Rights also convey responsibilities.
The women of NXIVM have yet to learn that.
Women in general have yet to learn that. Just read the sh!tty comments on this website. Mack is a hero now, Raniere is the ONLY villian.
“Dear Frank – Shadow is somehow posting under your name.:
No, I’m not.
It’s easy for a criminal to say “I’m sorry” after she gets caught.
so why do not you also criticize nancy, lauren and india
“so why do not you also criticize nancy, lauren and india”
Allison Mack was the public face of NXIVM.
The female Tom Cruise of the NXIVM cult.
And Mack’s acting skills and charisma were used to lure women into slavery.
You are the public face of this website in term of stupidity.
You have , as an only excuse, that she was the public face of NXIVM?
WOW…
But this confirm to everyone (with a sane mind) that you are a pathetic loser who hate Allison ….because she is an actor.
I actually feel pity for your family having to live with such a waste of air (i Don’t imagine someone like you to have anykind of friends (except those in your sick head)
Ms. Mack is equivalent to and responsible for those criminal acts that she performed and abetted, she is also responsible for her conduct since being arraigned, that she is subject to scrutiny comes with the territory of both fame and infamy.
No-one is saying Raniere is less the command, control centre of the nxivm racket that he is, by stating this.
Are y’all Ali’s mexican slaves? unravelling before our eyes? Ali’s plea has unleashed a lot of special pleading on her behalf, but by skewing the argument -why?
Girl, if this is the best membership of nxivm has given you, in terms of critical thinking and argumentation, its just not enough, you’ve been sold a pup! I hope you wake up to that.
Anyone hear or read anything in regards to the millions of dollars that Keith Raniere has stashed away?
Not including embezzled Bronfman funds became really who cares if dip shit sisters get their money back.
Hi Frank — Can you elaborate on how you and Catherine tried and tried to persuade Allison to leave Keith? Wasn’t Allison cutting off anyone who left the cult or tried to reach out to her. Were you talking to her on the phone, texting, or emailing her? Can you share any of the communications.
He did Something incredible (in his fantasticly beautiful soul, without selfishness behind at all…) he called her parents.
He ,of course accused her before that and tried to get her to talk over here…once again after he accused.
He didn’t try anything and Catherine neither…I doubt she even tried to contact her daughter until it was finished.
India said that her mother didn’t try to contact her (interview done after it was official that she …had a change of heart about Raniere)
if I remember that interview
How do you know that the judge bought what Allison was selling until he sentences her? How is what Allison said different from what you do on here? You blame your readers for turning your site into crap without taking responsibility for being the one who decides to post the crap in the first place.
Your wrote: “Allison was the woman the victims bought into – and their adherence to her misguided and criminal teachings. She recruited women to DOS and concealed Raniere’s role as head of DOS and characterized DOS as a women-only organization.”
Sarah Edmondson did the same thing. She continued to recruit women into DOS and she knew about Keith. India Oxenberg recruited women into DOS after she knew they would be branded and collateral used against them. You should be careful about how you go about attacking Allison because much of what you are writing can be applied to the other DOS women who recruited others.
Anonymous,
Greetings and Salutations my dear friend Sultan of Six.
I hope all is well!
talking about flipping, I have never seen someone flipping his position so much as you do…
If you are talking about anon 11:57, I thought that sounded a bit spankyish too. Spanky hates Frank because Frank dares speak realistically about a woman he cannot stop masturbating to.
If you need your Spanky fix, go to his web site, and quit slobbering on this blog!
For fucks sake shitty face. Do you really want ANOTHER fucking alias to do your cyber spanking!?
“Obsessed much?” will be added to the long ass list of your aliases, including Karl Basset, Jesse, Scarrom, SoSalty, Stu, Anonymous for Kristin…
Spanky went to Albany to rescue Kristin Crook from NXIVM! He is so delusional, he thinks the Smallville theme: “Somebody saaavvveee meee” is Kristin Crook communicating to him! 🤣😂
All the judge did was accept her guilty plea. There will be much more information provided prior to sentencing regarding how much he thinks she is being honest.
Frank,
Excellent breakdown!!!
I feel that some part of Allison Mack definitely enjoyed having so much control over the other women.
I wonder when Allison Mack’s book will come out…..
“I wonder when Allison Mack’s book will come out…..”
The paper should be rough so that it makes for good toilet paper.
Her allocution was carefully worded to remind the judge that she was a victim of Keith as well as those she victimized. An effort to influence a more lenient sentencing judgment.
Her statement was carefully worded by her lawyers. She was merely the actor reading the lines, along with lots of emotions.
Allison should get the full 40 years. And the mark of Cain. She killed Nxivm and her sisters. I’m sorry I ever knew her.
What i dont understamd why is alison bmw still parked at the pool in knoxwoods i heard it gets movied someone comes and takes then puts in back strange
Clearly someone is driving it. You can report to the police and give the driver a headache. It obviously some NXIVM tool bag is taking care of it.
Probably the car Kar-ma woman.
Maybe because it’s Allison’s bmw in Shadow’s dream only… He used on of the Darby’s sister as a “source” but she denied publicly she said such a thing.
This car could be Lauren’s car too…She had a bmw and Nicky cline was at the Wheel of this car during the Week end Allison was in jail.
It was identified as Lauren’s car.
Yolanda, I greatly value your comments. Please tell us more about Allison. Since you knew her, I’d love to hear more details about her from your perspective.
LOL As if anything she says is believable.
Seriously? you still Believe she is a Nxivm member? that how low it’s going on this website?
It’s a troll!
An obvious one that i though only the likes of shadowstate would believe in.
When i see that, no Wonder the analyse over here are so spot off.
Yolanda Cortes You are very mean spirited
Village Diane,
I believe Yolanda is > 85mgs of Zyprexa short of being sane.
Scott Johnson is more qualified to answer questions regarding Allison Mack than Yolanda.
“Allison should get the full 40 years. And the mark of Cain. She killed Nxivm and her sisters. I’m sorry I ever knew her”
Does this mean that you are divorcing Allison?
“People don’t change that much overnight.”
But Frank, it wasn’t overnight, this was a year in the making. She was arrested in April of 2018 and came to a plea bargain in April of 2019–this just proves that it sometimes takes awhile for the truth of your situation to sink in.
“I tried, and tried with Catherine Oxenberg, to persuade Allison to leave Raniere before she was arrested. She would hear nothing of it. No, even after she was arrested and thought she had an excellent chance of beating the rap, did she want to leave the horrid one.”
Frank, you and Catherine may have tried to talk to Allison but she was still under Raniere’s sway. It has been a year now of eating and sleeping regularly, talking with family and friends who do have her best interest at heart and probably going to some sort of therapy. She obviously needed that time to come to the realization that she made some horrible choices and hurt a lot of people.
And how long did it tale for Catherine to get India away from the cult, and she was only involved for a year ot so. Allison was involved in NXIVM for over ten years; that’s a lot of conditioning to get through to the actual person’s true self.
Well said, Lena. I was going to post, but I couldn’t say it any better than you just did.
India was involved for far more than a year or so. India was in the cult from 2011-2018. Have you bothered to read “Captive” You might not like what Catherine has to say about your gal Allison, but it’s a good read.
And if you were referring yourself to the thruth instead of reading a biased book from a lady who was the Reason why her daughter entered this cult…you would not have read that book.
Is it said , in the book, that long after Catherine supposedly left, she was still supporting Nxivm?
Source? her own twitter where she say to Vany Huber Something like “i trust you to take care of india” while they were attending the V Week.
Catherine was way more busy with her book than trying to save her daughter (and India needed her)
If i want to read a fiction, i would read Something else that is not flattering that lady (nor giving her money).
While i;m sure Catherine’s book is wonderful, she’s not exactly unbiased and neither is Frank. He seems to feel that because Allison didn’t heed his and Catherine’s advice to leave Raniere and the cult when he approached her then she could never come to that conclusion herself. And I also know all of the horribly criminal activities she participated in and the myriad of people she’s hurt, so I hope this plea deal helps her to start making amends and live her life on the straight and narrow.
Allison apparently didn’t seek or receive any psychotherapy or counseling this past year, Lena. It would have had to have been court requested like her bail modification requests to go to church, etc.
I was concerned that her failure to request or receive any Psychotherapy was not only a legal ploy — more in KAR, Clare, Nancy’s and NX’s best interest than Allison’s — to avoid reinforcing the fact that Allison may have been mentally manipulated or harmed by them — but that her failure to recognize a need for mental help and receive it in a timely manner will further damage Allison and cause her to continue to act outside of her own interests or that of anyone she may, otherwise, not wish to see harmed (or do harm to).
In any case, if “the devil made her do it,” where’s the exorcist now that she’s found God?
Your argument makes sense, Mr. Parlato. Was Adolf Hitler the only person to blame for the Holocaust? I don’t think history absolved all those involved who lead millions of people to their deaths just because they fell under the spell of Hitler’s ideology.
I hope that Allison Mack is genuinely sorry, and I hope she seeks redemption. Regardless, she still needs to face those consequences of her active involvement with Raniere, whether it be prison, probation and/or loss of reputation.
Jarhead,
Allison Mack reminds me of Hitler’s architect Albert Speer who tried to blame everything on the dead Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels and Goering conveniently forgetting his own role in the slave labor camps.
well at least your argument, shows me that if you know that allison, was not the only KAR lieutenant or was the one that had more power, since your comparison of the architect Albert Speer with allison and not with the same Hitler with Himmler.
All i know she a actrees fir sure frim wjat i saw these yesrs a vety confident women who had so many women at her place she parties late at night her voice wes beautiful and she sure waa close to keith he would be leaving at 6 in the mornimg there waa day i saw her running across to his place i thought there waa a fire she looked very happy amd she what she was doing
Allison Mack’s speech was filled with lies and half truths.
For the Judge she painted a picture of a female Utopia.
A sisterhood of loving women.
And the only fly in the ointment was Keith Raniere.
The truth is that NXIVM was like a high school filled with Mean Girls backstabbing each other with gossip and cattiness.
All vying for favor with the one Alpha male Keith Raniere.
This story in the Frank Report from September 2017 says it all.
Siobhan Hotaling is an EMP. She is also Allison Mack’s punching bag.
Allison takes out her “meanness and bitchiness” on her just like Lauren Salzman takes her “bitchiness and meanness” out on Allison.
https://frankreport.com/2017/09/03/source-siobhan-hotalings-ethical-breach/
And of course everyone dumped on Kathy Russell.
The women of NXIVM created this Lord of the Flies world and bear responsibility for the harm it caused.
These women were willing oppressors of each other and no doubt enjoyed the Dystopian society they helped create.
Allison Mack and Lauren Salzman were the Meanest Girls of all in this mixed up Utopia of women.
It’s easy to dump all blame on the pervert Raniere but they all knew that Raniere openly advocated sex between adults and children.
Now these women are shocked that Raniere actually practiced what he preached.
Allison Mack wants to rewrite history and whitewash her role in it.
But Allison conveniently passes over her complicity in the crimes of Keith Raniere.
Let’s not forget that the labor and services Allison Mack extorted from her slaves were of a sexual nature benefiting Allison Mack.
The reality was that NX
There was an interview she did where she admits to never getting along or never liking women. There are a lot of women who are like this and they treat other women badly to varying degrees. Given that she felt like this, fell in love with a psychopath, gained power within this so-called sorority, it’s not hard to believe she took things many steps further and there is an element of her that derived pleasure from controlling these women. If she was in love with KR, it’s not hard to believe that envy at the prospect of them having sex with her beloved, made the pain and threats she subjected them to easy to dish out.
Will the victims give statements to be used when the judge sentences these women? Will they have an impact?
Natasha,
Can you add the like to the article?
Thanks
I’m assuming I saw it on here on Frank Report around the time it all came out before she was arrested. It could possibly have been a link to an old Jness video where she is telling of how she felt before finding Jness. Sorry I can’t be specific, I wouldn’t know where to begin in finding it!
Okay
There are quite a few of these Alison Mack testimonial videos and I’ve watched one for the first time since a year and a half ago or so. I must say, it’s really interesting to revisit them now after all this information has come out and what she has admitted to doing. It’s mind blowing really. Then there is her KR interview about the “authentic human” and how she cries. It reminds me of a patient falling in love with their psychiatrist. Simplifying everything she is a girlfriend who did everything her beloved asked of her and didn’t stop at the criminal stuff. She preaches in a Jness video about taking responsibility for ones actions and mistakes. She definitely needs to try harder, maybe she will bit man has she got a whole load of issues to deal with.
I’m sorry I didn’t mean it. In one sentence that sums up the core of Allison’s allocution.
Frank, your analysis is spot on. If none of this group had been arrested, they would have continued the criminal behavior.
They are sorry they got caught.
The only way they will feel true remorse and suffer is to listen to the testimony of the victims. They should be required to watch every minute of the pain they have caused. I would also suggest they pay monetary reparation to the victims. Don’t leave them living a Cush life with money stashed off shore. Make sure they spend the rest of their lives on minimum wage.
Finally a sentence that is meaningful, 5 years minimum consecutive for each count. Give them enough time to really feel sorry.
I would also like to see the NDNY expand the sphere of criminals that have not been indicted,!
Judge Garafus I hope you read Frank Report.
Let’s give you 10 years for patent stupidity.
The sentence are based on their participation.
In Allison’s case, she participate on 2 victims, for a quite short period and didn’t get any benefit from it.
3 years would be perfectly fair for someone who already lost a lot for this cult.
What the f*** is happening lately, I feel like tomorrow, everyone will be saying that Raniere didn’t do it, he is a hero and the girl should be burned.
He was behind everything, he was the one giving order and he was the one who was abusing everyone in everyway.
I really doubt that most of the comment seen here reflect what the real victim feel.
“The sentence are based on their participation”. Stupid try writing in correct English! Sentence is singular and verb are is plural moron!
A prison sentence is based on more than participation. There is also intent, harm done to the victims and how long and how many times the crime was perpetrated.
Allison was using extortion and physical harm, putting women in cages and paddling them! She is a depraved individual!
How would you feel if the victim were a loved one of yours?
Two victims are two too many. No one has the right to do to anyone what Allison has done.
BTW was Allison entitled to some benefit from her crimes? You are as ethically warped as Keith and Allison.
Keith reduced Allison to her lowest possible self and she became a vicious tool.
Keith should be sentenced to prison for the rest of his life.
Is this backwards? “It is the difference between a drunken driver and a sober driver. They both run over a person and kill her. The drunken driver committed a crime. The sober driver had an accident.”
Hopefully at least one of the branded women makes a victim impact statement at her sentencing. The fact that she branded women with HER initials (and she herself wasn’t branded) truly says a lot…
100 percent! But the judge bought it; time to watch closely if this one is a kangaroo court or not.
Justice is not impartial and Mack has the ability to persuade through her innocence, victim-hood and gullibility. Garaufis is a susceptible target. He has already made a comment to her asking her if he saw her in the cafeteria having coffee. I found that comment out of place for a court room and somewhat seductive.
Oh, for God’s sake Judge Gaurufis‘ cafeteria coffee quip was purely in response to Allison’s request to break to urinate.
She had to pee, he knew she wasn’t lying because, as his Honor quipped, he had witnessed her earlier imbibing a substance that causes peeing, i.e. “having coffee in the cafeteria,” period!
Why must you pervs on here always put some salacious sicko twist on every word you read?!
Maybe KAR and Nancy Salzman Et Al weren’t so stupid recruiting the likes of Allison Mack and Kristin Kruek to do their dirty work and take the fall knowing you fanboy creeps would show up to “protect” and degrade them. (Emma Watson would have been a surer ticket to freedom, though, and we wouldn’t have had to endure the cankle freaks at least!)
Heidi,
We men are dirty heathen little beasts. What do you expect from men? I am only 1/2 kidding.
Least you’re man enough to admit it!
Allison Mack was gifted with a talent for acting and an appealing charisma.
And she used her talents to bring great life-long harm to people.
She displayed no sympathy or empathy for the needs of others.
She displayed no sense of boundaries where the rights of others begin and her rights end.
If Allison Mack had had her way the singer Kelly Clarkson and actress Emma Watson would have been branded and turned into sex slaves.
Even the allocution itself was kind of a fulfillment of Allison Mack’s life goals.
For one brief shining moment, Allison Mack was the center of attention in a courtroom of a great American city.
Too bad that at the same time of Allison’s allocution the even better actress Felicity Huffman was in a courtroom in nearby Boston
giving a better, more heart-felt mea culpa for committing bribery and mail fraud to get her daughter into college.
Allison was torturing women into sex slavery for a troll of a man.
Huffman came to the realization that she had done wrong after only one month, not one year and Huffman did not torture and enslave anyone.
How dare Felicity Huffman steal the limelight from Allison Mack in Allison’s moment of glory.
Here we go, mental is jumping at her throat again…
Her talent has Nothing to do with what happened and it’s none of your business.
You think she owes you (or anyone over here who is against her)? She lost a lot to this Fucking cult so she already paid quite the price.
And seeing crazy people like you thinking that they have the right on her life , I think a lot of people would go seriously crazy.
Get help old man
I remind several point for your sick moronic brain:
Allison has pleaded to no sex crime …this means that you are actually accusation falsely Allison (now) ,therefor, moron it’s defamation.
Just because you sick perverted brain want to see it like that doesn’t mean it’s the Truth.
Where are the torture claims moron? even the Sex trafficking had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BRANDING (which was not her idea)
The only “force” Allison had (back then) , after the diet she was Following was the collateral. And this , she has recognized it
Anonymous thanks for your comments. I too am tired of this POS and his constant diatribes. He is a perverted fanboy of Mack. ^1 year old fart with the mentality of a child with a schoolboy crush. Yet one of Parlato’s top reporters.
Macks Mexican Fan Club unravelling before our very eyes..
This is SO true “She displayed no sympathy or empathy for the needs of others.” I took some intensives with her, she always ignored what you felt or said, because she was always right and already experimented what you’ve been through.
My suggestion.
Mark her like Cain.
Brand her with that same brand in the middle of her forehead for all to see.
As a warning to all.
As a constant reminder to herself of her henious crimes against her own sex every time she looks in the mirror or any reflective surface.
And that’s only a down payment.
Allison betrayed her own sex in the most monstrous way.
She is fully responsible for what she hath wrought.
Her lawyers wrote her admission. It”s just another script for a grade B actress to mouth.
After all, all an actress does is say words someone else writes and tries not to bump into the furniture.
She wept? What about the tears wept by the women she held down while their flesh was seared with 3rd degree burns?
All the while Allison chanted to them during this horrifying procedure something akin to “think of your master.”
(Why does Marquis de Sade come to mind, hmm?)
I wonder……what punishment is enough to expunge her, and her like, from among us.
I would warn those who think to resurrect NXIVM in some form or other….think again.
Think real hard.
Folks, if you want enlightenment….look within. The answers are within you.
Not with Ramtha, Swan Teal, Scientology or some home grown guru and the like.
They all play you for fools.
Look within. It is there you will find what is true.
Frank seriously, you spend to much time with Shadow.
First of all, everything she said on her allocution is spot on with the reality. Raniere was teaching them to accept things they wouldn’t normally.
Then what are you doing? She is now as bad as Raniere? How about you go fully like shadow did and say he is the scapegoat!
The thruth is that she wasn’t at all behind the branding (and you know it)…She was one of the girl convinced to be behind it and that is a fact as some other member claimed to be the person behind.
And none of them were, it’s was Raniere who made it happen.
She does take responsability (and will pay with prison time) the fact she followed blindly a fraud, a monster.
As for changing:
First, Allison was a good person before Nxivm, that is the general consensus.
She was pushed to become (through the years) the person she became.
Some of the person who met her around 2013 said that back then , she was already Under the unfil diet and sleep deprivation (interview with 2 girls whom Allison tried to recruit)
Do you understand the effect of this diet ? of the sleep deprivation?
This silly post of yours is actually what happen when someone is getting tiret but still try to write something meaningful…
A journalist tried the diet (without sleep deprivation) and explained that the effect were devastating. She wasn’t able to thing properly and was so scared by this that she got back to a normal diet.
You are basically telling that a year of introspection ,with a huge change on the diet and no sleep deprivation had no effect and that she couldn’t be feeling like she do?
How long should it take then?
Also, a reminder, it didn’t took that long to India to get back in control of her mind…
The marking was only said by you to be her initials, Toni Nathalie said that she didn’t believe it was hers has Raniere was not sharing.
Knowing she wasn’t not the leader of DOS, nor the Creator of it, Nor the Creator of the branding. you are just pulling “facts” out of your ass.
At worst it’s a coincidence, at best a way for Raniere to put the fall on Allison.
The only one full of BS here is definatly you.
You spend WAY too much time with the wrong persons and that’s why a lot of victims avoid your website.
Raniere is the big bad wolf here, not the girls.
KR was the highest authority for her and he was her beloved one.
So one they stated here it is brainwashing were actually right, indeed ! She has been damaged to turn her into something that obviously wasn’t her !..
It may take time for her to fully recover, but she will.
She’s a victim as well, after all…
The worse if it all is that she will have to live with the harm she has done for the rest of her life…
But I’m confident that she will find her path to forgiveness from her direct victims.
The ones here they dream of a Nürenberg-like trial with a final beheading will be disappointed !
Maybe we need Rick Ross’ point of view to fully understand what NXIVM/ESP/KAR meant to these people – especially to these emotionally/sexually involved young women…
There’s an old principle of hypnosis, which underlay Raniere’s techniques of manipulation – that you can’t make people do things, that they wouldn’t do otherwise. And the idea of “brainwashing” was discredited, because Lifton’s research demonstrated similarly that POWs did not undergo fundamental alteration of their personalities or behavior, or sense of right and wrong.
I know Rick. I think he’d reject your interpretation of the situation.
If you want a precedent to look to, learn about the case of Karla Homolka, a pretty young women who convinced many supporters that she was innocent – but who was finally proven by incontrovertible evidence, to be a brutal sexual sadist. That doesn’t mean Mack is necessarily a similar personality, but it does show that perpetrators can successfully hide such personalities from outsiders, completely fooling observers; it’s actually a characteristic of highly pathological types, that they are extraordinarily effective at deceiving people, able to defeat the mechanisms we usually rely on to judge others.
p.s. it’s Nürnberg in German, and Nuremberg in English
That is not true, and we don’t talk about hypnosis as such…They were Under a strict specific diet that reduced the ability to think properly.
I doubt Rick ross (deprogrammer, i remind you) would adhere to your interpretation.
You are saying that the people from Jim jones case were absolutely willingly Killing themselves?
Does this include hiding it from her boyfriends? you just do your best to drag her down the gutter and Frank’s mental breakdown give you just another Reason to do it.
It still doesn’t change that you talk without any knowledge
Nancy Salzman was trained in both hypnosis and NLP, the latter itself based in Ericksonian hypnosis. Raniere at least read about NLP himself, and then adapted what he further learned from Nancy and others.
There are a lot of hypnotic or suggestive techniques that were used by Raniere, along other with other typical tactics of persuasion and manipulation – after all, if you think it through, they had to get the women to the point where they would accept a restricted diet. Sleep deprivation and disruption are another common technique that was employed. Read some of the books on the subject, if you want to really understand it.
In the Jonestown case, not all of the people willingly killed themselves – but others were willing to die, among them those who served up the poison and even finally forced it on victims, and finally there were also those who set up and carried out the murderous ambush of Rep. Ryan and other innocent outsiders. There was, in fact, under Jones, a tier of other perpetrators, and then finally the actual victims.
That example actually makes the point that under a psychopathic leader like Jones or Raniere, there are a certain number who are perpetrators as well, along with actual victims; we don’t know for certain what category Mack falls into, but she was in fact close to the leader in the sort of higher tier in an abusive organization that can include other pathological co-perpetrators. At a minimum, Mack is some sort of moderately pathological personality who is easily manipulated, lacks a normal sense of right and wrong, and is at risk of re-offending if she falls into some other orbit of abuse and criminal behavior.
And, again, in the Homolka case, there were people like her first boyfriend who were not aware of what she was capable of. People who were around her, including family, and were later interviewed, recounted widely differing impressions of her, suggesting both that she showed different sides to different people, and that even people who seemed as if they should have known her are not necessarily reliable gauges of her personality and character.
Do you have any knowledge about Mack, other than what you’ve read at fansites?
I hear ya, AnonyMaker, but there are subtleties on “coercion” — please let me briefly illustrate with a true anecdote concerning me, myself and I 😁:
When Gina passed, I decided to spend a few days at the KTD Monestary where her death occurred. I’m sure I was hypnotized while there.
I was taking video all day, interviewing whatever friends of Gina’s were around and even ran into a very high-ranking Tibetan Rinpoche Gina knew visiting the Monestary from China.
Next thing you know, I was joined at dinner by a white guy who spoke the Queen’s English dressed in monk’s robes, shaved head, who’d just arrived in a limo.
What stuck in my mind about our conversation was he told me how terribly noisy the sleeping chambers were at night and how he could never get any sleep. I remember thinking how odd that was bc whenever I stayed there you could here a pin drop it was so quiet. I disagreed with him, at least mentally. I remember he touched my hand a lot as were talking, which I thought was kind of weird for a monk and he didn’t seem to be at all my type if you get my drift.
That night, however, I did not sleep a fucking wink. I kept hearing the worst cacophony every time I drifted off to sleep that it woke me up. But as soon as my eyes opened, the place was dead silent. I swear I was out in the hallway trying to find out who or what was making all the fucking racket that was going on in my head every time I tried to sleep.
Finally, I just gave up, packed up and left the place, and as I was driving off who do I spy but the English monk peering out a window as if to wave me off.
I don’t care what anybody tries to tell me I know I was hypnotized into doing something that I did not want to do in a sense — leave in the middle of the fucking night with unanswered questions I was really too scared at that point to take up.
(Unless maybe you try to tell me while hypnotized!)
I don’t know how this example applies to crossing a moral barrier or not — suppose the hypnotist had suggested if you leave tonight bc it’s too noisy I’ll kill everyone else here? Would I be morally wrong or right to leave?
Btw, Where’s my dinner? Lol.
Heidi, I agree about the subtleties of coercion, and undue influence – unfortunately, we’re not at the point of having that sort of nuanced discussion here. And I’d hoped that a trial of Mack might actually get into such issues, and bring them to the public’s attention the way that that the Patty Hearst case did, though apparently that opportunity is fading unless it comes up in some future cases.
Many leaders of these sorts of groups are sort of natural hypnotists, and some actually have enough of a background in hypnosis to be able to pull off stage magic style tricks of post-hypnotic suggestion. Watch some of the videos by Derren Brown to see the power of everything from cunning misdirection – he pulls off things like getting people in stores to accept scraps of paper instead of cash – to virtual mind control.
Heidi, I look forward to your insights on every post. You have lived a lot of life, and when your book comes out, I will most certainly be reading it!
To SFMPE and AnonyMaker – There is nobody’s opinion on this topic that I’d like more than Rick Ross.
There was one valid point in your bitching. That a lot of hurt has come about as a result of what she participated in, branding or otherwise.
As far as I am concerned, she owned up to it all here “I am very sorry for the victims of this case. I am also very sorry for the harm that I caused to my family. They are good people who I have hurt through my misguided adherence to Keith Raniere’s teachings. I apologize to them from the bottom of my heart, and I am truly very sorry for what I have done. Through this plea and the help of others, I have begun the process of healing and repairing the relationships in my life.”
There was no need for her to apologize specifically for branding etc., as that was not the crime, the crime was all the coercion which she owned up to. What will ultimately matter though is what she does with her life now to heal all the hurt that has come about in the lives of all the victims. This only time will tell. Continuing to find faults in her allocation won’t do a damn thing to heal the hurt any of the victims have experienced.
Peace out.
Peace Out,
Justice is not perfect; Mack must go on and so must we. Hopefully, all of us for the better.
At least she apologized to the victims. That’s more than the Salzmans managed to do…
“People don’t change that much overnight”? You’re right. It took her a year lol. Although I think the child porn charge against Raniere late in the game was a major factor.
Perhaps it was the acting achievement of her career? Now we are left to decide who gets the Courtroom Oscar: Allison’s teary apology or Clare’s fainting damsel. Still, there may be better acts to follow. Hold your ballots under all the performances are in. Keith, being the world’s smartest man, may surprise us by also being the world’s best actor.
Nice projection, Frank Parlato. Great job on defending Keith Raniere. You are getting around to the part of you which is exactly the same as him. Both have caused tons of harm to others in the name of being wronged and having a better world, yet take no ownership for the hurt they themselves have created. You two are amazing at finger pointing. The blame is always on the other, even after others plead guilty, it’s never enough for you guys. Frank Parlato: the superhero who is rescuing the world from the evil lex Luther aka Keith Raniere. You should know Raniere was probably thinking the same when he was terrorizing others using the legal system. The only difference is, he used the legal system, you use your blog. Bravo!👏🏽
I wonder if you have the balls to own up to your shit like Allison did? Don’t worry, I am not holding my breath on this one.
they have the internets in Narnia?
I missed the part about Frank defending Raniere.
The more of the blame that is shared with non-Vanguards, less blame is being dumped on Keith.
Really, this is about all that’s left of this mess. How much of the blame goes to his harem and inner circle? Can everyone use the same card Allison just played? Is her card “legit” or is it “convenient”?
Heidi made a very good point, above. I look at the Ginas of the NXIVM story, and mostly side with ‘legit”.
Don’t worry, it’s happening when Something is not fitting your agenda…Scoot.
He try to diminish the role of Raniere in this case, you call that how?
Allison said the Truth, everyone knew that Raniere’s teaching was to accept the unacceptable.
She recognized she participate in the crime she pleaded guilty, what more Frank could ask.
Oh wait, He has no right because he wasn’t a victim of Allison. His only Reason to right that piece of crap full of lies and BS is because he is losing his Golden goose.
Look at the amount of comments on most of the stories about Allison (except those written by Shadow but that’s because , well, do i have to explain?)
Frank didn’t diminish Raniere’s role, he just didn’t want Mack’s role to be diminished. It’s womens’ lib, equal pay, equal rights, #metoo, and all that crap, remember? You not only get the goodies, you have to pay the price and take it like a man when you f*ck up.
You are a Spanish speaking contributor, your ESL is fluent but careless. I think as one of the many Mexican DOS slaves your anxiety is justified. You need to read the FR a little more carefully, you don’t seem to have grasped the point of it.
I don’t recognize the errors of their broken English as being typical of native Spanish speakers, though I can’t peg what it comes from, either.
I don’t consider their English to be ‘broken’ merely lacking v. basic English inflections e.g. third person vb endings, using vb.s in the continuous where the present simple would suffice – errors that arise when translating directly from a language which inflects differently from English. As I say I think this speaker is fluent. Not, say, Polish or Russian, probably not French, highly likely especially given the context, to be Spanish speaking – Latin American Spanish at that.
“corrections,” it sounds like you know something of which you speak, so I don’t intend to contradict you.
I know both Castilian and Latin American dialetical Spanish – and there’s really no difference when it comes to the typical errors that their speakers make in English. The one thing that could throw a wrench into the mix would be a Mexican whose first language was not Spanish but one of the indigenous dialects like Nahuatl or Zapotec; I’d considered that, but the Mexican NXians tended to be upper-class and more likely to have had some other European language also spoken at home (the mostly Spanish-descended elites also tend to speak Castilian, not Mexican, Spanish). Oh, and come to think of it, just as an example, or maybe even more of a clue, one of the upper-crust Mexican NXians has an Eastern European model wife/beard….
Ah! I see where you’re going.. and I think you are probably correct.
Sultan =my breath,
You need help. Now that I know you tried to rescue Kreuk.
Hate on Frank all you want he has never journeyed across states to rescue or contact a celebrity.
Do you realize how far outside the bell curve of normal you are ?
In the years since you journeyed to New Yourk State to rescue Kristin Kreuk you are just as obsessed now.
I know it’s you Sultan.
probably the stupidest people on this site are those who say things like, “I know it’s you Sultan.”
Whatever “obsessed much?”,
Your obsessed with us or you would not feel the need comment
Some of those brands look a little shaky, as though that crazy doctor lady either took too much adderall or too little diazepam that day.
If my brand wasn’t dead ass perfect, I mean sharp and flawless, I would be doubly pissed off about the whole thing.
It doesn’t help to have your subject writhing in pain as you slowly burn an area that is the most sensitive on the body.
I agree with you, but remember, she has an attorney telling her how to talk. The fact that she pleaded guilty, and I’ve heard willing to testify against Raniere, speaks volumes. No more control. Is NXIVM dead? I sure hope so, and I appreciate all your fortitude with the correct journalism principles (being unbiased being #1). I hope that continues thoughtfully.
“willing to testify against Raniere,”
They are all willing to testify against Raniere because it allows them to obscure their own complicity in Raniere’s crimes.
Are we reading the same report? FP unbiased? everything is biased…even if he open the door to both side of a story, i’ll Always make sure that the side that bring him the most click is the one that seem the most “believable”
There is a reason why some people who used to post here (and were close to nxivm) have stopped coming…
FP only interest is click bait for money.
His gold goose made a plea deal so he has to make up as much twisted stories as he can before it’s gone for good.
When you see who he is publishing (see who replied to you) , tell me it’s unbiased!
Yep will not post anything pertinent anymore as long as Parlato censors some but lets goofballs clog up the comment section where some important information can be transmitted.
You sound like you have skin in this nxivm Rico Game. Guess your fear and panic are justified.