IMO Allison Mack is responding to a form of behavioral control that used to be called sex magic, which uses the assumption of archetypes to facilitate behavior.
Once the companion/wife archetype is accepted, a woman can’t go back to being a maid; it’s the emotional equivalent to divorce.
Allison, the companion of the alpha, can only be another’s companion or mother or crone.
I notice Mr. Raniere used archetypes to control many of his females: Dagny = companion, Legatus = protector, Proctor = controller, etc.
Allison’s devotion is tied to the Chloe archetype: companion of the secret alpha. Too bad she doesn’t have to share the bathroom or pay his bills.
She’ll break the spell when she realizes that Mr. Raniere is no longer suitable for a relationship, because of old age, fraud, vice, distance, illness, violence, poverty or ceremony.
Personally, I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and see what the court reveals. Still, there is no question in my mind she’s a victim although I doubt she realizes or understands why.
I think Carl Jung would agree.
These Allie Wack obsessed fanboys are totally cuckolded and their own worthless lives are forever electronically displayed here. Sad pathetic creatures who are every bit as lost as their goddess.
Not an Allison Mack fanboy. Never heard of her til this scandal broke. Only seen one season of Smallville which I binge watched to get the latitude of her persona.
What I am is person with 25 plus years of attendance in a metaphysical organization, and time with many other similar organizations since. I’m profoundly interested in the methods used to inculcate and control otherwise intelligent and well-meaning people. There’s a lot to be learned.
Don’t see her as a goddess; just a young woman who found herself in over her head because someone she gave the trust and authority of teacher, was unworthy of that trust because of personal issues.
The foundation of all spiritual teaching, from the deepest religion to the “self-improvement” field is Be Harmless.
Of course I understand people will view all posts through the lens of their own life.
There’s a great deal to be learned from groups like Nxivm, if you have a strong platform from which to view the activity.
Quite accurate. Hopefully when Allie Wack is sentenced for a long time these soy boys can finally get a reality that is more mature than the pathetic lives they lead now. That also includes the Krsiten Kook fanboys.
a bit off topic here but I thought I’d ask you to stop a minute and reread what you’ve written here. It says a lot about who you probably are at this time in your life. These words are hars, rude and hateful. Is that who you are, harse rude and hateful? If so, then you should start to turn yourself in a better direction. You’ll be a happier person and have a much more peaceful life.
No ill intended here, just felt I should bring this to your attention
Actually the words are absolutely accurate. Sorry you can’t deal in reality. Crawl under your blanky and put your binky in your mouth. Those monsters are scary.
Harse? i used to ride a harse, but it dieded.
Does this remind anyone of sultanofstalk? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xkEHzmBSqOU
You are so lame. I was born and raised in the US. I have no “FOB” accent whatsoever.
Regardless, despite what some people consider a funny accent, “FOB” Indians are some of the most respectful mannered people I’ve ever met, especially when it comes to their parents. Something you ought to learn.
Thank you! DON’T come again!
why do not you leave, I don’t think anyone will miss you
Yes, yes, yes. And don’t think KAR, like a lot of “less sensitive” men, doesn’t know and take full advantage of this.
How do you think “Anima” aka “The Silver Plume Company” got its name? It means “inner woman” in Jungen psychology. The woman that a man responds to, projects onto or seeks for a soul mate. Unless he’s so “integrated” he only needs “fuck toys,” not a soul mate.
In NX’s, “ESP’s,” formative years, there was much discussion of Jungen “archetype” psychology. I had a “Jungen” and “Allister Crowley” Tarot card decks based on Archetypal psychology and Gina was into it, as well. She and Kristin Keefe, and of course, Keith (in his own self-serving way) were more into Buddhist and Hindi philosophies then but all the girls always wanted Tarot card readings.
(And, btw, I never flipped the cards over and over again until I got the “right” answer, as “Bangkok” once suggested on here, AFTER I mentioned it.)
I don’t practice anymore, but The Tarot can reveal the subconscious mind, in particular, what archetypes are playing out at the time of the reading and where that path they’re on may lead in terms of “future predictions.”
You may be right about Allison but she can still “disavow,” rescind her “vow” to KAR, return to her maidenly being or to the fool and take another path under a different “magician” master if she can’t master herself.
Whoooo. Do you think so? Yes she could move sideways. While analyzing Mr. Raniere’s techniques, I considered how to de-program devotees. Most de-programming deals with tearing down the belief system which is destructive and generally worthless.
I would agree that were Ms. Mack to find herself in the upper echelon of a university or become a member of an organization with a lot of brilliant people, or an organization with a real Magician master, yes, she would transition normally and begin to see realistically the thrall of the glamour that was thrown over her and the membership.
It would also help to point out the magnetic speaking techniques he uses which I find are akin to reading a screenplay.
Now THAT was an interesting article…. Give us more of them, Frank. LOL
Did you know that the techniques of sex magic and MLM’s are almost identical and interchangeable? The difference is in the goal. In an MLM the goal is to get unlimited wealth. In a sex magic system the goal is ….?
But both involve “buying the vision”, and the assumption of an archetypal identity – that is now crushed.
You, of all people should understand what I meant.
How crushed were you by your MLM experiences? Has it affected you for years? That is exactly what every member of his organization is going through right now, only they’re facing jail time for activities most believed were legal.
I’m not defending Mr Raniere. But compassion doesn’t hurt anyone.
Go ahead and answer your question, the goal of sex magic is….? WHAT? ALL fraud is about lying and “buying the vision.” So WHAT? I wasn’t crushed at all, I was scammed, and now I’m educating other people about Amway and other MLM scams. I’m not running around crying, I’m taking action. I didn’t take up voodoo.
Sorry you find it ridiculous.
Scott, did you know the techniques of Sex Magic and MLM schemes are almost identical and interchangeable?
They both involve ‘buying the vision’ and ‘the assumption’ of a personal archetype that precipitates behavioural changes.
The cosmic “Yes! I can make money by networking” the assumption of a salesperson persona, and the changed behaviour of unending networking.
Did your MLM experiences affect you? Did they affect your self image? Are you still reeling from those experiences years later? How do you think the people of Nxivm are faring given that most believed that they were acting legally and ethically?
Not a Raniere supporter, but Compassion doesn’t hurt anyone.
Educating others about Amway and other MLMs is compassion, not crying in your milquetoast. Your form of “compassion” is fake compassion. If you really cared, you’d take action.
Sorry for the duplication. My computer said the first post didn’t go through.