By Heidi Hutchinson
I’ve thought quite a bit about why Keith Raniere started DOS. I thought about it also, especially, in the context of why KAR is so angry and determined to destroy me, as I believe he did destroy my sister and many others — his former lovers who left, former business associates, and “friends”.
The beast even sued his own father!
Best answer I can offer is this:
KAR is foremost about protecting, reinforcing, and propagating his delusion of superiority, power, control and omnipotence.
For Keith, the sex gratified far more than a voracious appetite that way. It fed his delusions that he is this most masterful, sex-healer guru; superior to any mere mortal man in that regard too. On top of his superior IQ, world reknown problem solving, athletic, musical, etc. superiority.
Gina talked about being “energized” by Keith’s mere touch in a sort of twilight, hypnotic state I believe they did often have her in.
Gina got older and wiser, became educated (she eventually went to college after quitting high school for Keith to become her mentor), traveled beyond Albany. KAR was threatened she’d lose her faith in his teachings and ways and have the delusions KAR instilled in her about him shattered; which in turn — in KAR’s warped view — threatened his own delusions about himself.
I think the branding was KAR’s solution for not only “owning” all the girls he conquered, but maintaining his own power delusions with them as the harem grew larger, the girls got older and, some, grew out of KAR’s mind control and threatened to expose and shatter his deception and own self-deception.
The thing I’ve always feared most about exposing KAR — the thing I think HE could least tolerate and retaliates most against me is the revelation that he is not the genius, superior being he has spent a lifetime convincing himself and others he is.
Gina had a pet iguana named “Iggy.” She and KAR and probably Kristin Keeffe set him loose around the Consumer Buyline warehouse — one of her “trickster Goddess” (Boddisatvas are known to play pranks) — to scare everybody. They said KAR taught Iggy to talk, too, but I never heard a peep out of him. We also DID have a dog that approximated saying “hewoo” or hello and “I wuff ooo” I love you. True story. From what I’ve seen of Nicki Clyne, she’s the most like Gina of any of the current harem.
I think Bangkok is likely Dennis Burke trying to desperately dissuade and deceive anyone from learning the truth of the deaths — which might mean the death of his businesses if not his law license and certainly the loss of his most lucrative client(s) if not mean his own “Salinas style” death if “Deez” is to be believed.
Keith was frantic when Kristin Keeffe escaped. He had his Mexican goons all over me thinking I was harboring her. I know Kristin sent other messages, warnings to me, to all of us, on Saratoga In Decline.
I hope she and others understand the dire need for me, all Gina’s relatives and friends, all of us, to know what “The Rat” meant and how Keith and other accomplices contributed to her and others’ deaths and other crimes.
I really believe Kristin and young Gaelen will never be safe until all’s told and there’s nothing more, no collateral remaining, to hold over anyone’s heads.
We really have no idea what other trails the Feds are following.
I hope Kristin realises that her best shot at safety is working with them, and that she already is.
She could be the nail in the coffin, and save herself and her son.
I hope she is found guilty of all charges thrown at her.
Over the past 10 days you’ve ACTIVELY PROMOTED more than one post (to ‘article’ status) which has directly speculated that Burke is likely Bangkok.
First wast this post:
Then came Heidi’s post.
Yet you’ve personally remained silent on this issue, even though you already know that Bangkok is the same guy who’s been posting lots of nasty stuff about Keith and Clare under a different name (and thus can’t possibly be Burke).
You now have a journalistic duty to speak up and tell your readers that this rumor is nothing more than laughable bullshit.
BTW: The reason I never bothered to address this issue before is because I thought it was a joke at first. Then I thought those members were just trolling me, but weren’t truly serious. However, when I finally realized that Heidi is TRULY serious I finally responded.
You are supposed to be a journalist, Frank. Your only reason for remaining silent is to let this bogus rumor keep whirling.
*Just because Dennis Burke may be a soulless asshole and/or a fucking bastard who sucks on Mexico’s dick, THAT DOESN’T MEAN you can promote OBVIOUS bullshit that he’s posting here as a certain member. LOL.
You must weigh-in on this issue, Frank, else your credibility will have gone to ZERO as a journalist.
What other argument can you make besides that you’ve insulted Keith, Clare and now Dennis himself? No one’s buying it, Burke. Your client insults are no worse, I’d imagine, than what you and Aggie might laugh about at a 3 martini lunch.
And, as Nut says, you’ve answer no one’s questions including what are your other monikers? You know “Reality?” “Clicky 8,” “Toxic Emoji Troll?” How ‘bout “Laura D. Esquire” and the infamous “Deez?”
Quite the opposite. Any person commenting under a random/unknown/unlinked name has zero credibility. LOL
Frank’s credibility as a journalist will go to zero??? Says who….
Anyone recsll the Phil Donohue show?
I only bring it up becsuse like Keith claimed to heal through sex (ha! Don’t most men use that line? 😉) I recall Phil had on this pseudo pagan religious group and the priestess had sex with all the male congregation (sorry ladies, you hot nada nookie from her or a male counterpart) to purify them or some specious reason given.
Since we know Keith plagarizes perhaps he got the idea from her.
Hell of a way to justify doin’ the wild thing with multiple partners. 😊
LOL at the Bangkok comment.
Frank, with all due respect… You should stop Heidi from embarrassing herself with these comments since you already know that ‘Bangkok’ is the same person who posted as “Hot Sauce & Pizza, Pussy Sans Garlic”. I make no attempt to disguise myself when I change my name, since my writing style is obvious to anybody reading.
…And “Hot Sauce & Pizza” posted some of the most anti-Keith and anti-Clare posts ever (including his flaccid cock), which really makes me wonder why an adult human being (like Heidi) would think that Dennis Burke would post such hateful posts about the man he supposedly worships (Keith) and the woman who supposedly pays his bills (Clare).
Methinks Heidi is so desperate to believe in her conspiracy theories that she’s having a crack with reality and ignoring common sense logic.
Didn’t Heidi also claim that Scott & Flowers were the same exact person a while ago? How did that “conspiracy theory” turn out for Heidi’s credibility here? LOL.
Not sure how Heidi’s credibility will hold up if she keeps up this nonsense.
She kinda reminds me of Keith, in a certain sense. If you speak out against anything she says, she automatically classifies you as being involved in a “conspiracy” against her (just like Keith does). lol.
Truth is, I can speak out against Keith and his flaccid dick along with Clare and her ugly mule face WHILE also speaking out against some of Heidi’s dumb and illogical claims about NXIVM’s involvement in those 2 suicides. It’s called being objective. This isn’t high school. I’m not in anybody’s clique.
Clicky Clicky Bang cock,
You have never explained why you are so interested in this forum. Do you have a personal connection to NXIVM in any way? Have you ever been involved in any cult? You must have some reason that compells you to come on here and write insulting remarks about people you don’t even know.
Or is it all a smokescreen?
Frankly. Bang, you need to clean up your act.
If you can”t form a cogent argument without cursing and making sport of someone”s physical appearance, you would do better to not post at all.
I think Bang is more Jerry Springer than Phil Donohue material! The author gets some kind of thrill insulting others and waiting for a response.
Time and time again we see the same thing.
No matter how many times that person changes their name, their true nature always shines through.
Better not to give them the energy they so desire.
Bangcock – Why don’t you answer questions that I ask you? One would think that if you take the time to write an elaborate post, that it wouldn’t put you out too much to respond to a couple simple questions replying to the damn post.
Please do enlighten us further, “Bangkok” aka “Pussy” as to which other distasteful monikers you use to slander, harass and hate on everyone including possibly your own clients? While billing them for your time?
In fact, I’m so embarrassed and feel so dumb and ashamed over wrongly guessing you just might be the self-proclaimed “Prince of Darkness” himself (under the moniker “Deeznuts” in that case) that I’m going to double down on that guess due to this curious comment in frantic defense of Dennis Burke aka ? ? ?
Your admission, whoever you are, to insulting Keith’s “flaccid dick” and Clare’s “mule face” may be the only two true and, therefore, non-prosecutable slanderous statements you’ve ever made.
Curious to know how you came upon Keith’s flaccidity without first hand knowledge, though? Or, did you?
Heidi, are you sure Bang is a lawyer?
If so, then it’s true most lawyers are scum from the profane comments this one makes.
P.S. Which “Mexican dick” in particular does “Burke suck,” Bangkok?
Your writing style is not that obvious, and Heidi isn’t embarrassing herself, she’s just being herself and embarrassing everyone else.
It would be so cool if you would go away.
Do you know details of Keith’s lawsuit against his dad?
I don’t know what claims were filed, no. Maybe it’s in the public domain. It was said to be over money but I got the distinct impression Keith wanted to stop his dad from exposing details about his early signs of delusion. In the early days, Keith brought the local girls individually down to NYC to meet his Dad to deceive them each into believing he was serious, marriage-minded about them.
What type of lawsuit could Keith file to preemptively stop his Dad from revealing information? He could possibly sue him for libel, but only AFTER his father published the information.
A – Those records do not appear to be available on line. And I recall that there was some confusion as to who sued who. I think it is possible that Keith’s father sued HIM, probably over money lent and not repaid, but I could be wrong.
I would like to know more also – it could add more insight into the dysfunctional KAR.
I disagree with your diagnosis of Keith as dysfunctional. I, for one, refuse to give him an out mental health wise.
Just call him what he is. An evil little man who sexually molests little girls and abuses women who believe the schlock he spews.
There is such a thing as the good seed and the bad seed. Keith, and his minions, are of the latter kind.
Let us hope the federal prosecutors are our avenging angels.
I want each and every one of them, most especially Keith, permanently removed from society.
Let’s get this right, Raniere does not spew me.
Thank you for yet another stream of consciousness, Heidi!