By One Night in Bangkok
I feel sympathy for the family members of Gina Hutchinson and Kristin Snyder.
I just hope Gina’s sister realizes that no matter what happens, there is NO CRIME for anybody to prosecute with regard to Gina’s death. Nor will anybody be prosecuted for Snyder’s death.
They were both just suicides and no matter who may have ‘encouraged’ them to do it, it’s just not going to be prosecuted as a crime by federal or state courts EVER.
Want some facts?
There’s a recent case which involved a girl convicted of “inciting” somebody to commit suicide. However, if you read the case details you’ll see that convicting somebody (of this crime) involves much more than merely proving that they ‘encouraged’ somebody to kill themselves.
It was the case of Michelle Carter.
Firstly, she spent months texting her ex-boyfriend trying to convince him to kill himself. Those texts were introduced as REAL evidence shown in court, they weren’t just rumors or hearsay disclosed by some anonymous “rat” bitch.
But that’s not all…
Plus, she actually helped him PLAN how he would kill himself (suffocating in his car) while also convincing him that he needed to do it to be free.
But that’s not all…
Plus, she was actually on the phone with him while he was committing suicide (he was sitting in his car using the exhaust fumes to kill himself).
But that’s not all…
When he chickened out and left the car, she actively convinced him (via phone) to go back inside and finish the job. So he did, and he died. Phone records were provided at trial.
It takes that kind of DETAILED INVOLVEMENT to get convicted of this crime.
You can’t just tell somebody to ‘off themselves’ and then go to prison. That’s not enough.
The law in the US doesn’t work like that despite what certain ignorant people may believe.
Oh, and after all that… Michelle Carter got sentenced to just over 1 year in prison, lol.
That’s it. 15 little months, which probably amounts to 6 months with parole for good time.
Guess what?
No prosecutions are gonna happen for Kristin Snyder or Gina Hutchinson because they both committed suicide and they were not murdered. Period.
If Keeffe or another Rat Bitch encouraged them to do it, that’s just NOT ENOUGH by legal standards UNLESS there’s evidence that they engaged in DETAILED involvement just like Michelle Carter did.
Until I see this evidence, it’s nothing more than fantasy.
End of story.
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I don’t think Bangkok is really gloating – but I think he’s trying to make the point that even if there were crimes committed in connection to these 2 deaths, that the criminals will get away with their crimes.
I suppose it could be considered gloating if Bangkok himself is a criminal who is pleased with himself because he has not yet been caught… ( so far.)
Remember what I said about a narcissist’s giant ego always being the thing responsible for their downfall, Bangkok?
We believe both of them committed suicide. However, there are indications this may not be accurate.
–I feel sympathy for the family members of Gina Hutchinson and Kristin Snyder.
“…Now let me shit on them after such an insincere profession.”
Your lack of being willing to look at an issue from all sides is how we end up with disasters like NXIVM in the first place – everyone is so afraid to give their perspective that nobody does, and people like Raniere take advantage of this situation.
SInce this piece of crap is apparently a new contributor, I assume I can call this lowlife a lying loser.
So what is it One Night? Is The Rat a LIAR – like you were adamant about in one of your other inaccurate & pot stirring posts? Or is The Rat not a liar and The Rat’s views on the “suicides” are perfectly accurate.
Do you have any clue WTF you are typing? You sure seem certain. If yes – where did you get your certainty? Care to share some details of THIS CASE? Instead of gloriously sharing details of a case that CNN, FOX News etc. have covered extensively.
Since you seem to know everything, did Toni’s dog also commit suicide?
If you don’t respond to my questions or questions from others, I will not be replying to you anymore. I’ll skip over your make believe posts and treat you like the dead-inside troll that you are.
Don’t you get it? This website is filled with conjecture, guesses, unsupported theories, etc. Just lay back and enjoy it.
This post had none of that. That’s what I’m asking the troll for. He rehashed a well covered news story. He also rehashed info from The Rat as fact – 2 days after he called The Rat a liar.
Whatever. But don’t purposely try to make others feel pain in a desperate effort to feel better about yourself. Actually, Scott – haven’t I typed the same thing to you prior to Frank’s censoring?
You like to correct people, nitpick, and have the last word. So, it should be “just LIE back and enjoy it,” not “just LAY back and enjoy it,” grammatically speaking.
That is a nice reference to a comment linked to rape – cruel comment added to a cruel post.
If you didn’t like that, you should read the story I submitted to Frank that he hasn’t posted. Yet.
Lay back and enjoy what? Getting troll mind-fucked and harassed? Thought it was just you, Schlock, taking cred for doing all the mind fucking around here for the greater good. You’re just a red-herring pooping all over — anything for attention — and soon enough FR might just tire of having to edit you so heavily, if investigators don’t tire of having to rule you out as the malicious, lying, liabling troll who may, in fact, be Dennis Burke and/or on Clare Bronfman’s payroll in some respect don’t come knocking on your door, first. Wise-up or STFU.
Grrrrrr! Lookout Burke, Nutjob’ll go crrrazy cougar on your head!
Not sure why Frank needs to post articles attacking victims families for click-bait when there is actual news.
Shame on the writer and the publisher.
If you don’t like Frank’s articles, get your own website.
What are your reasons for allowing this cruel piece to be published? what purpose does it serve? So sorry for Heidi Hutchinson and the Snyder family, this is insupportable, plain nasty. I don’t want any further involvement with this site. Best of luck to all nxian’s.
I don’t agree with Frank posting this either. It was originally a dumb post on another thread and should have stayed there – if not censored to begin with. At least there is now no doubt about the place that One Night is coming from.
To slightly defend Frank, if the facts end up showing that The Rat is correct and the three “suicide” victims (that we know of) did actually kill themselves, it will be difficult to get justice if the crime was convincing them to do the act.
“Encouraging” could mean using hypnotic suggestion. If so, the person who was asked to implant the thought was asked to do so by Raniere. Hopefully the investigation will uncover evidence in Raniere’s correspondence that will prove any wrongdoing.
Onewoman, please don’t leave based on this one post. Frank doesn’t censor points of view. Please read Frank’s own post: “Did Keith Raniere learn his strategies from Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard?” for balance.
This post is upsetting because, intentionally or not, it seems to be mocking the grieving families. I never thought there would be prosecutions for these deaths or for Keith’s long-ago crimes of statutory rape, for a variety of reasons. But we can take comfort in the fact that he is now, finally, locked up and facing serious consequences.
I agree, Orange. I know it’s upsetting and I did speak with Frank last night about it and I get where he’s coming from by just letting it ride or even featuring these obvious assholes. Trust me, not a lot is getting by Frank and he’s getting closer to the truth in exposing these ultimate villains. It’s well intended and may be the only way of stopping them for good. “By their works, ye shall know them.” And, also, by their recorded words and VPN’s, even in public places with cameras. I’ll let FR redact if I’ve spilled too much here.
Anyway, please, please stick around One. The assholes can’t be such complete idiots that they keep, keeping it up long after they’re busted. But like Bangkok said, power corrupts — and maybe past the point where the corrupt can rely on other corrupt powers to uphold themselves. He oughtta know.
Sorry for all the commotion!
Btw, Bangkok’s Clicky, Smiley, the Toxic emoticonner DeezNuts, etc. and totally insane, btw, IMO.
Onewomanarmy – Please don’t go. I agree that this article is cruel but maybe One Night’s purpose is to drive people away. Don’t let him achieve his aim. Your view is valued here.
Not by me. I don’t like people who cut and run. Good riddance.
This commenter enjoys being provocative in order to invoke contrary responses and, for some reason, is trying to get under Heidi’s skin. My question is why?
Death by suicide leaves so many victims in its wake and this person just wants to keep picking at the scab. Anyone who encouraged someone to choose to take their own life may not be found criminally responsible but is morally reprehensible.
It’s always good to look at issues from various angles, that’s why.
How did I know you’d be defending this bag? If I didn’t believe that you only post as Tex, I’d go Flowers on you and accuse you of being One Night.
Just because the view doesn’t match yours doesn’t mean it’s not worth looking at. That’s the essence of free speech. There is no need to protect speech you agree with. I’m not defending them, I’m saying another viewpoint is worth looking at. Even if the person’s name is Nutjob.
Why? Because I’m one of the biggest, most identifiable threats on here, Leon. IMO. Really appreciate all your empathy and support, you’re help me stay strong. Please don’t be too concerned…not so easy to get under my skin these days. They really did the most damage they ever possibly could to me by taking Gina from me.
I’ll confess I was truly terrified at times when I thought they’d never be caught and I could only ignore their threats and harassment. They even tried to recruit me, seriously, get collateral, etc.
As Frank discussed in an earlier post comparing NX and KAR to Scientolgy — avoidance just doesn’t work with them if you’re enough of a perceived threat —maybe only due to what you know, your very existence. That IS why NX will go down while other evil cults flourish. They’re cannibals feeding on cannibals.
Wish I were more sure the lot of them will never rise again. Probably wouldn’t be watching out so much on here if I were. A SURE and speedy trial would be welcome for me!
The fact they tried to recruit you, Heidi, is just one more example of their arrogance. They must have truly believed you swallowed the story that Gina taking her own life had nothing to do with being so closely associated with them. It’s that arrogance that could well prove to be their undoing and that is my hope. A speedy trial would be the best case scenario for everyone they’ve hurt and I hope it’s in the offing.
There’s another major factor at play: time. It’s been so long since both of these women died, that finding evidence is nearly impossible. Many of the technologies that were used to convict Carter didn’t even exist and/or weren’t commonly used when these women died.
Bangkok
You seem to presume everyone else is so ignorant that they believe by merely suggesting suicide to someone it could result in a conviction.
Do any of us really know how thorough the police investigations into these deaths were? If the police believed these were both suicides, were they biased in their investigation? Did they follow up on any leads that were provided years later?
Did they investigate the rat post to rule it out as a prank?
I dont think you have any link to NXIVM, Bangkok, correct?
So why are you so interested in this forum?
Pot meet kettle.
Most of the mental/emotional abuse that narcissists and sociopaths heap on people is not illegal. Deception, manipulation, gaslighting, just plain terminal selfishness – none of it will get the perpetrator put away. But that doesn’t change the righteous grief of the family and friends when someone is pushed into suicide by the actions of a vicious abuser. It’s only prosecutable when toads like KAR and his crew escalate their viciousness to the point of criminality. And then grieving family and friends can finally feel at peace that no one else will be driven to death once the toads are all locked away.
So what were you hoping for by hurling your gloating remarks at grieving family and friends? Cuz frankly, you sound a lot like KAR and his cohort.
Right on, Just Me. You rock
I didn’t read the article as gloating, Bangkok was just describing the facts as s/he sees them.
I read it as gloating, as in:
“Guess what? No prosecutions are gonna happen for Kristin Snyder or Gina Hutchinson because they both committed suicide and they were not murdered. Period.”
That is a valid OPINION, which could be stated with a bit more sensitivity or compassion.
You seem very sure of yourself. I don’t know how you can conclude definitively that the deaths were suicide – especially Kristin Snyder’s. If you care to look, there are a lot of unexplained details.
So what if there are no prosecutions? Does that make the events less horrible? That a whole host of people got involved with KAR and saw their finances, lifestyles, self esteem, freedom, or very lives go down the tubes? What point are your trying to make?
Reading this and your past posts, you do seem like a troll with a very aggressive tone, holding a particular grudge against Heidi speaking out. You refer to her as “Gina’s sister.” I don’t like to make these accusations, but I’m just speaking from my gut.
“I feel sympathy for the family members of Gina Hutchinson and Kristin Snyder.”
Do you?.
We know you feel all kinds of things, you just don’t do anything. Which one matters more?