Mexican DOS versus American DOS
Marc Agnifilo is a formidable attorney. Relentless. Thorough. Efficient. And when he gets a witness on the stand, he can usually pick them apart.
The First Line Slaves, I believe, are:
- Allison Mack
- Rosa Laura Junco
- Loreta Garza
- Camila Fernandez
- Mariana Fernandez
- Nicki Clyne
- Dani Padilla
- Lauren Salzman
Agnifilo is looking for “reasonable doubt” – and to get that, he needs a battery of happy Mexican DOS women – and to impeach the DOS victims as liars or mistaken. He has already argued that the American and Canadian DOS victims only imagined their collateral would be released – with no basis in fact.
He has shown he will impeach the American Jane Doe #5 who claims she was blindfolded and sexually assaulted. He has claimed he has a witness who will testify that Jane Doe #5 was a “kinky” women who wanted this kind of violent sex.
In order to ensure he will have his Mexican DOS witnesses, who otherwise might be pretty frightened about coming to the US, Agnifilo has asked the Government to agree to grant “safe passage” to his Mexican witnesses.
He writes, “…the Government may arrest and/or detain these witnesses if they come to the United States to testify in this trial. Even if the witnesses were willing to enter the country without safe passage, several of these witnesses do not have a visa that will allow them to enter the United States. Accordingly, we would need the Government to grant them parole to gain their appearance…In the event that the Government does not grant these requests, counsel asks this Court to allow us to conduct live, two-way videoconferencing with the witnesses during trial.”
Agnifilo further reveals how and why he intends to call his Mexican DOS witnesses:
He will call “first-line DOS masters,” who were directly under Raniere in the “DOS pyramid” and “DOS slaves” – to impeach the Government’s witnesses.
The “first-line DOS masters” are essential to the defense, he says “because each of them played a role in developing and implementing the principles of the sorority: the name, collateral (and what it should be), assignments, acts of care, readiness, and branding.”
They will testify that DOS was good. That DOS helped women overcome weaknesses and gave them opportunities to build character.
“Rather than feel manipulated or coerced, several witnesses feel that they joined a mentorship group that helped build their bond to women and gave them tools to overcome their current life’s difficulties,” Agnifilo wrote.
Agnifilo further laid out his intended line of defense as follows:
“These ‘first-line’ DOS women will testify that DOS was a goals program meant to strengthen loyalty to one another, to grow and to empower each other. Moreover, they will testify that branding was a choice and that slaves could opt out if they chose. They will also testify that they never threatened any of their slaves with release of collateral…
“The first-line DOS women will further testify that the concept of collateral was not created in DOS as it was first used in a Nxivm entity called ‘Society of Protectors.’ Therefore, these women will testify that a majority of the women in DOS, who were allegedly ‘mostly from within Nxivm’s ranks’… knew of and had used this as a tool in the past.
“First-line” DOS masters will also testify that many DOS slaves stated that they did not want to give collateral and received no negative consequences.”
Agnifilo also reveals what his Mexican lower-ranking DOS slaves will testify: that the branding was not as the American and Canadian victims have told the government:
Agnifilo writes, “counsel intends to call the DOS ‘slaves’ who reside in Mexico who can impeach the testimony of the Government’s witnesses as to key aspects of the branding ceremonies. There are several witnesses who reside in Mexico who have material information to contradict and impeach this false testimony.”
Agnifilo sums up his need for Mexican DOS women with this simple concept:
“Raniere proclaims his innocence,’ Agnifilo writes. “Not only did women willingly join DOS but they also willingly gave collateral to their prospective masters after learning about the requirements of DOS, willingly got branded, and the ones who engaged in sexual activity with Raniere did so consensually.”
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Do the money and power people in Mexico want their people testifying on behalf of an American cult they has already caused them huge embarrassment and include their direct family members?
As Scott said one juror is all he needs. After quite a few trials that should have been obvious I’ve had my faith in juries shaken. The judge should spend a few hours or days explaining “Reasonable Doubt”!! Lol I’m joking but not much.
At this point I can’t make any predictions. I can’t say I’d be surprised by even the worst case scenario.
After the trial and whatever happens it would be interesting to know what becomes of the true believers and the disenchanted. Will harassment take place/ continue? Will someone try to start up somewhere else? How does someone re enter society when for so long their community was the world of NXIVM?
Reasonable doubt has to start with a reasonable person using their brain. As we’ve seen on this website, that is sorely lacking in today’s world.
Agnifilo knows he’s lost. As long as he keeps Raniere hypnotized, we will be making good cash
Weren’t the non first line DOS slaves originally told that the purpose of the collateral was to ensure that they never spoke about DOS if they left the group? Only after joining would these women realise just how much was truly expected of them and see the Sword of Damocles being constantly held above them.
What legal precedent is there that would allow safe passage or video testimony? I’m not a lawyer but I can’t think of one good reason why this should be allowed. Just like the defendant has the right to have all witnesses against him in the courtroom so to should the prosecution witnesses be in the courtroom as well.
Wow! Sounds frightening. First line DOS slaves are to Raniere what the Republican Guard were to Saddam…
Frightening? I see it as encouraging. It didn’t end well for Saddam.
That was intended to be sarcastic.
Sarcasm is hard to put across in print.
And the First line DOS slaves will end up like the Republican Guard in Basra.
Let’s hope Vangaurd takes the stand.
I doubt he’ll be able to resist. BTW, I,m now thinking of him as Vangourd. Gourd definition –
a fleshy, typically large fruit with a hard skin, some varieties of which are edible.😁
Some slaves may have given their first collateral willingly. But, if I recall correctly, they were not told that they would be required to provide new collateral every month. Now they are really captives, and this is where Agnifilo’s argument breaks down.
Then Agnifilo tries to argue that the DOS slaves were never threatened with the release of collateral. But why the hell else would they collect the collateral in the first place, unless it was meant to be a deterrent and a threat? Geez, what a weak argument.
But as Frank says above, Agnifilo is a relentless attorney. He didn’t get to be such a high-priced lawyer for nothing. The sex-related charges may not be a slam-dunk for the prosecution. I hope the evidence behind other serious charges, such as money-laundering, is ironclad.
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If you have other ideas, I am open to hearing them.
If the slaves… I mean women testify from Mexico. They have no incentive to tell the truth. Because they cannot be prosecuted for perjury if they are in Mexico.
Great point and a reason of EDNY to request the court they appear in person with no guarantee of safe passage!
EDNY can also charge them now if there is justifiable cause
or petition the court that they are in Mexico to avoid potential charges. And, therefore, there is no basis to grant safe passage.
Why should EDNY grant safe passage when they may be charged?
I think the DOJ would rather have them in NYC as well. It’s much easier to put pressure on someone when they are present. There are all kinds of carve-outs the DOJ can insist on, such as safe passage unless they commit perjury, etc.
There is extradition. Just ask El Chapo. How do you know they can’t be prosecuted for perjury if they are in Mexico? Can’t they swear to tell the truth under penalty of perjury from Mexico?
‘One attorney told me today: “Just read Marc Agnifilo’s affirmation – and am now more convinced than ever that the Feds may have trouble making any of the DOS-related charges stick against anyone.” Really? This all sounds like uber-word salad to me, like they want the word-salad second language speakers from Mexico, to impeach those who have given up the word-salad in the US/Can. and decided to speak truth. How?
Are you there Albany Attorney With Big Ears?
I wouldn’t get too depressed, we don’t know what supporting evidence the Feds have regarding this matter. Agnifilo is going to present his client in the best light, it’s up to the Feds to paint Raniere is the worst light.
Yeah tell Moira to ask the what is a value. What is pride what is pain and suffering what is a parasite etc and he will se they are all like little robots taught to speak like word salad and they all say the same that has no meaning for the rest of the world. They speak another language and are brainwashed. Btw judge should not allow them to speak under oath if they are not there and 2 when they needed a visa to go there they where not afraid. If they really mean what they say why are they afraid to go?
Agnifilo has laid out his case: membership was voluntary collateral was not absolutely obligatory and never used; sex was consensual. He has also requested immunity from prosecution via safe passage.
Since we don’t know about a larger superseding indictment I doubt the court grants safe passage. Video teleconferencing is more likely and is also more difficult for Agnifilo to emotionally impact the jury and make his points. My sense is Agnifilo is basically offering a distraction from the charges. We all know it does not matter that some individuals were not impacted; what matters is that individuals were traumatized. And, Nx was traumatizing sexually. Unfortunately for Rainiere this case has taken on a sensationalist quality because of the combination of branding and collateral (blackmail). I don’t expect any jury to forget that; and the Mexican members are really just cult members that come from a culture of abuse. Would you take them seriously as they support their cult leader. If I were a jury member? I wouldn’t likely.
The bigger picture is this case is much bigger than sex and blackmail. It is about human rights and dignity, safety for one’s body and mind and it’s about the underlying legal and financial misdeeds that were underlying the cult. Nx violated dignity, imprisoned, shamed and bankrupted individuals and evaded taxes and committed wire fraud to support their operations.
Prosecution also likely has Nancy Salzman in their pocket and she will not be easily impeached by Agnifilo. She knows too much and she is a 64 year old mother with health problems that knows her reign as Queen of Nx is finished and wants to start her private practice again. Agnifilo will try to discredit her but when a person can provide detail like she can, the game is over.
DA, we have no idea which side Nancy Salzman is on.
Surely these women in Mexico have not been subject to intimidation or threats from the Salinas regime. Surely they will offer testimony favorable to Vanguard of their own free will.
In Mexico one finds an even more racist society than America.
The top 15% of society is of European heritage.
These are the rich people who rule Mexico’s government and economy.
They are the Alphas.
The middle 60% of Mexico is Mestizo or mixed race.
These are the Betas who do the more mundane jobs.
The next 20% are natives or Indios.
As the name suggests Indios are almost pure blooded Indians.
As far as the Mexican elite are concerned the Indios barely exist in Mexican society.
These are the Deltas.
When Carlos Salinas, Emiliano’s father, was a boy he shot and killed an Indio maid while plying with a gun.
No big deal.
No consequences.
Murderous Carlos Salinas reportedly killed his first victim when he was four
Police were called. The boys were detained. They were disturbed because they couldn’t play freely at the station.
“Naughty boys. Don’t do it again.”
https://frankreport.com/2018/02/04/murderous-carlos-salinas-reportedly-killed-his-first-victim-when-he-was-four/
From the looks of these Mexican witnesses they are all upper class women of European heritage.
“Maria, get lunch ready for my friends who are dropping by! PRONTO! PRONTO!”
So now these upper class snobby Mexican women, many of whom view the bulk of Mexico’s population as barely human robots,
will pour into America to defend their Vanguard and restore slavery, peonage in Spanish, to America.
With the help of two twisted minor Hollyweird actresses to virtue signal at every opportunity.
Who taught me about Mexican society?
Professor Robert Scott of the University of Illinois.
Mexican Government in Transition. By Robert E. Scott. (Urbana: University of Illinois Press)
Did the young lady who was (voluntarily) confined to a bedroom for over a year willingly request to be dropped at the Mexican border with no passport and no money?
I have to agree here. I don’t thinks it’s acceptable to allow testimony from self serving DOS first line slaves. These women are risking nothing. I’m sure some can get temporary visas to testify!
Collateral will be difficult to explain. Women today are more open about nudity, but it seems the collateral goes much farther than simple nude photos.
Can collateral be used without identifying who it belongs to?
Even Agnifilo must be pondering how to explain the content of the ongoing collateral. As a woman I could not bear the shame the pictures described being used against me would cause not just myself but my family. Much less the danger of written collateral designed to damage reputations of loved ones. Who’s to decide what’s true and what was made up. How many children could be removed from parents while investigations of abuse are investigated?
I’m curious if other women feel as I do about nude pictures of you touching private areas had the potential of being released? Keeping in mind how the women felt just knowing KAR had seen them and ultimately controlled them.
Of course KAR would want his Mexican DOS slaves to be witness from across the boarder so they cannot face theiri llegal activity within the US.
If they come back to the US its likely they would get arrested. Why would the DOJ or the Jidge let them testify from Mexico?
Allison Mack – arrested
Rosa Laura Junco – wrote checks out of Pam Cafritz account and brought under age women to Albany. She also went through 2 husbands and has kids from both marriages she subjected to KAR. Did she lie on her Visa application?
Loreta Garza – was here illegally and on a false work Visa. Nxivm said she was the only qualified person to be the head of Rainbow culture garden, which was a lie.
Camila Fernandez – she was groomed by KAR and Nancy Salzman to be in KARs stable. She was also her illegally.
Mariana Fernandez – she was her illegally for years, was KAR #1 stable gal after KAR dropped his older women.
Nicki Clyne – has an arranged marriage to be in the US. If she loved her wife, why is she not with her? Alos in KARs stable and would lie for him.
Dani Padilla – she was in the US illegally than married Sean B so she could stay in the US (which was arranged) Sean considers KAR to be a father figure to him.
Lauren Salzman – arrested