Kristin Kreuk now stars in a TV series called Burden of Proof. She plays corporate lawyer Joanna — who, hoping to impress a client, travels to her tiny hometown of Millwood, where female high school students are experiencing seizures and tics after getting the HPV vaccine.
Rather than trying to protect the girls, Joanna represents the big company responsible for manufacturing the shot.
“No filter. No conscience. God made you the perfect lawyer,” Joanna’s dad/boss (Alex Carter) tells her.
On the other side of the courtroom is Billy (Peter Mooney), a former classmate — who has taken on the students’ case.
Joanna goes about offering the girls a deal: The company isn’t admitting fault… but sign this document, waiving your right to ever sue, and you get $50,000!
Then Billy’s niece Molly (Sara Thompson) also falls ill, and the investigation takes a turn. Molly didn’t get the vaccine — she didn’t think she needed it since she’s in a relationship with another girl — so something else must be at the root. That’s good news for Joanna because now the company doesn’t have to pay out.
“Your job is to screw people over. Good, hardworking people!” Molly exclaims. “And you saw me, and you thought, ‘Well, she’s just a sick kid. She’ll agree to anything.’ How can you live with yourself?!”
That slap in the face is just what Joanna needs to come to her senses and partner up with Billy to track down the source of the seizures. She now turns brave lawyer and risks her high paying legal career to fight against the bad guys and expose them.
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In real life, Kristin Kreuk was in a cult called NXIVM. She was a famous actress and so – hoping to impress Vanguard [Keith Raniere] and Prefect [Nancy Salzman] – she would travel to their tiny hometown of Albany where she helped recruit young female students thrilled to be in the same group as she was.
Some of these females experienced psychological torture and brainwashing [and herpes] after receiving the teachings of Keith Raniere. Rather than trying to protect the girls, Kreuk continued to support NXIVM.
“No filter. No conscience. God made you the perfect actress,” Vanguard might as well have told her.
On the other side of the equation was James Odato of the Albany Times Union — who had taken the young women’s side. His articles revealed that Raniere was, among other things, a pedophile.
Even after the series came our, Kreuk continued to allow herself to be used as recruitment bait and even promoted a teen recruitment effort called Girls By Design. She does not ever say NXIVM is at fault.
Even when the battle was at its crucial moment – when the Frank Report was the only publication decrying the branding and blackmailing of women – Kreuk declined to speak out – although privately she told ex-members that what Keith had done by branding women was horrible.
Some wondered about Kreuk’s silence: “How can you live with yourself?!”
After the New York Times – then the rest of the world media – reported on the insane practices of NXIVM, Kreuk continued to hide and would not make a comment – especially during a critical time when we who opposed NXIVM were trying to get Allison Mack and others to leave the cult – prior to their arrest.
After Raniere’s arrest and when the media started to question Kreuk – she lied and said she knew nothing about the horrors of NXIVM. Some media outlets condemned her. But even that slap in the face did not get Kreuk to come clean about the cult she endorsed and supported.
She escaped mostly without career damage, without acknowledging the damage she caused others, especially Allison Mack, who – make no mistake – Kreuk recruited into the cult. And Kreuk was not some low-level member either. She was one of the top coaches for NXIVM.
Today, Kristin Kreuk plays a brave lawyer who risks her high-paying legal career to fight against and expose bad guys. She must be one hell of an actress.
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A reader wrote recently:
Kreuk said – in March 2018 she left NXIVM “about five years ago.” Sarah Edmondson said Kreuk “has been out since 2013”.
The Times Union series called “Secrets of NXIVM” came out in February 2012. So Kreuk certainly took her time being disgusted by the revelations in it of pedophilia.
Plus something interesting: Kreuk was interviewed on The Hour in December 2012, where she plugged Beauty and the Beast… and also plugged Girls By Design (about 2:40 in)
[Girls By Design is a program for teen girls inspired by the teachings of Keith Raniere-Nancy Salzman. Many believe Girls By Design was started by Kreuk and Salzman to recruit teen girls into NXIVM. Three years after revelations that Raniere had sex with girls as young as 12, Kreuk was pushing Raniere’s teen girl teachings.}
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqOciOmz7Vo
Seems like we really still don’t know when and why Kreuk got free of the cult and Keith Raniere.
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Another reader wrote:
Kristin Kreuk was still coaching NXIVM in 2012 according to this Reddit user: https://frankreport.com/2017/11/10/i-got-dragged-into-one-of-the-nxivm-classes-about-five-years-ago-and-kristin-kreuk-showed-up/
She was publicly thanked by a NXIVM cult attendee in 2015 on social media for her “encouragement” in his recent ESP NXIVM course. That was over three years after the revelations of pedophilia and one year, 10 months before Sarah Edmondson was branded. The pedophilia of Keith Raniere clearly had zero effect on her opinion of NXIVM.
Despite filming a television series in Toronto, Kreuk was still going to Albany in 2012 and apparently was still coaching.
To sum up –
The shit should have hit the fan in February 2012 when the Times Union expose came out.
https://www.timesunion.com/local/article/In-Raniere-s-shadows-3341644.php
Kristin Kreuk was even named in that expose:
https://www.timesunion.com/local/article/NXIVM-courts-rich-powerful-and-influential-3253818.php
Kreuk was in New York with fellow NXIVM leaders Allison Mack and Mark Hildreth in June 2012, four months after the revelations that Keith had sex with girls as young as 12.
Allison Mack reveals in this Instagram post: https://www.instagram.com/p/MBj1E8Ji1c/?taken-by=allisonmack729
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When I look at the above picture, I see three NXIVM leaders who are also actors smiling together. It is June 2012.
At that same time, women such as Gina M., Serena, Rachel, Rhiannon, Layla, and others were not smiling. These women who had been raped by Raniere when they were teens were trying to heal. They had hoped their coming forward and revealing their secret horrors to the Times Union would shock such as Kruek into leaving and decrying the cult.
By June, they were shocked that the Times Union series had not shaken loose important members of NXIVM such as Kruek.
They were shocked and frightened.
Kreuk used her fame to bring in NXIVM recruits. Kreuk did not use her fame to prevent the horrors that were to happen. Had Kreuk spoken out in 2012 – or even made a public break with NXIVM – maybe no woman would have been branded. Even now she does not condemn NXIVM – when it is finally safe to do so.
My disappointment in her lies in the fact that she let her friend, Allison Mack, get fully destroyed by NXIVM and sat by and said nothing.
Regardless, watch Kristin Kreuk play a brave lawyer in Burden Of Truth.
In real life, she feels no such burden.
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The Daily Beast published an article about Kristin Kreuk’s stubborn, cowardly and arrogant silence on NXIVM.
They say they tried to reach Kreuk for comment, but a CW publicist said “we are not answering any questions about Allison Mack or NXIVM so I would need to make sure this is only about the series”.
The CW are appalling. Is this what happens when the press reach out to Kreuk for an interview? Does her agent/management/publicist warn them not to ask her anything about the cult?
Perhaps this CW publicist is Kreuk’s friend Suzanne Gomez. She was definitely in NXIVM and Kreuk almost certainly was the one who recruited her. Suzanne Gomez knows [name redacted], another NXIVM cult member who got involved with Kreuk’s/NXIVM’s Girls by Design. How many people from the CW Network did Kreuk recruit?
Kristin Kreuk is very arrogant. She thinks it is her right to be on the television and not have to speak about her deep involvement with the cult. Her pretentious virtue signalling show Burden Of Truth is funded by the Canadian tax payer. How much money did she receive from tax payers? People who actually have to work for a living? Kreuk refuses to acknowledge what she has done while trying get as much fame and money as she can. Who the fuck is Kreuk to decide what interviewers can ask her? They are the ones doing her a favour in giving her the publicity she craves. If she refuses to address her behaviour, then nobody should interview her and promote her show and she should be banned from the television. All Kreuk cares about is herself. When the NXIVM story broke in 2017, she refused to even acknowledge it, but she was happy to virtue signal, pretending to care about all these “causes” that has nothing to do with her, because there is no sacrifice in doing so. If she won’t talk to the press about her involvement with NXIVM, then the press should talk about it for her and she should be blacklisted from the entertainment industry. Kreuk should not be allowed to have everything her way.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-actress-kristin-kreuk-is-dodging-her-nxivm-cult-past?ref=scroll
She has been dodging this bullet for years. And let us be honest about it and say she was successful. Why should she risk everything now for no possible gain?
And now back to her TV carreer. She is not booked for her smarts or being a woman of virtue. She is in these shows because of her looks and as long as a sufficient number of viewers turn in, this will remain the case. And even if it changed this should not be too devastating to her. She should have made more money in her years of acting than most of us make in their entire life.
It is not about what she can ‘gain’. It is about what is right. She knew what she was a part of and she recruited people heavily on a lie. She never cared about Raniere’s paedophilia, the women raped by him as children etc.
As for the money she has, she has never earned a penny in her life. She has never had to work paycheque to paycheque. Her current show is payed for by Canadian tax payers. Money that other people work for is taken away from them and given to Kristin Kreuk. She said in 2017 that if you are a white male trying to get into the entertainment industry, there is nothing for you and that it was “a good thing”. Yet, white Canadian males are the ones funding her PC-driven show. She is a true coward and hypocrite.
Both KK and the CW (and the CBC as well) want and need to promote the show, and it does none of them any good to discuss the sordid case of NXIVM instead of the show. KK made a choice to avoid talking about her past links with the cult (which may or not be nefarious) and hope the press moves on…and mostly it has.
Even The Daily Beast seemed understanding to being snubbed, saying “Of course, it makes sense that Kreuk, who again has not been implicated in any of the cult’s crimes, doesn’t want to spend the rest of her life talking about the accused sex traffickers she used to associate with. However, given the overlap between the real-life scandal Kreuk’s become associated with and the central themes of her new series, those banned questions could have led to a fascinating conversation.”
Point is, Kreuk wants fame and fortune and not to face up to what she has done. She wants it all her way. Television appearances, huge amounts of cash, interviews where she can virtue signal about things she does not care about to appear righteous while demanding the interviewers don’t ask her anything about her beloved cult. The decision should now be taken out of her hands whether she talks about the cult or not. She has made it clear that she thinks it is her right to take huge amounts of privilege and not suffer any consequences whatsoever.
OMG. There is so much salt in this post, where are my french fries?
That is just from the Raniere’s two ball tonic you’ve been drinking.
Since I never bought the bullshit of the huckster, that makes about as much sense as the rest of your incoherent rants laden with rejection.
But keep those salty tears cumming.
Waaah.
Beetlejuice has returned… You would probably lick the salty sweat off Mark Hildreth’s penis because it has been in Kristin Kreuk’s vagina. You sad sad sad little sexless creep.
Waaaah.
Looks like someone is projecting others into their own sexual fantasies. Perhaps you’ve been focusing on the wrong sex and need to get out of the closet, not that there is anything wrong with that.
Beetlejuice, you need to stop whacking off to pictures of Kristin Kreuk and get an actual life.
https://imgflip.com/memetemplate/9722725/South-Park-Semen
What a whiny little bitch you are. I guess you’ve never been able to argue a point so like a monkey you just start throwing your shit around.
But hey, it was original reading another “great” sex obsessed comeback. Do the boys in your frat house like to gather around the campfire and talk about the number of drunk chicks they’ve banged?
Keep on swinging that little dingaling.
Tom Welling was gifted with special abilities that he used to land the role of Clark Kent on Smallville. Tom shows off those abilities for money when the cameras are running. But when Kristin Kreuk and Allison Mack need Tom to save them from Raniere in real life, Tom did not use his abilities to save them and stop Raniere…..There was no money in it!
Tom Welling may of been recruited into NXIVM according to Enty from Crazy Days Crazy Nights. He claims Tom Welling’s ex-wife has been given a huge payout in their divorce because she has information of his involvement with the NXIVM cult. If it’s true, Kristin Kreuk or Allison Mack would of recruited him. Check out this link:
https://mobile.twitter.com/johndoe78359022/status/989533728711086080?lang=en
I know what Frank wrote….my comment clearly was that I DOUBTED Frank had identified KK recruits who had sex with Raniere and had gotten herpes from him…hence the suggestion of the question mark.
If Frank has true knowledge of this, maybe even posted it which I never read, then my doubt is unfounded.
Clear now?
“So Kristin Kreuk was recruiting female students? Where was she meeting them to target them? The article says they ended up with psychological problems and herpes. So girls/women Kristin Kreuk recruited were having sex with Keith Raniere and ended up with herpes and she was still a hardcore cultist. NXIVM target females for Raniere and Kreuk was doing that. Is it so unreasonable to assume that if girls she recruited were having sex with Raniere and she was fine with it, she may of been doing so too? Hope these women come forward with their stories. Frank Report is a great place for them to express their experiences.”
Haha. Look it all the whiny little bitches here. All mad because Kristin Kreuk had the sense and smarts (and some good luck) to leave over a half a decade ago without controversy and didn’t get caught up in the recent crossfire except for some horseshit tabloid journalism that associated her with the sex cult.
Keep dreaming she did something wrong or had any responsibility for the current set of events. You ain’t going to find jack shit. The only thing she is guilty of is being naive in thinking she was doing something good and being more loyal than she should have been to people who used her name. That’s it.
But cry some more anonymously in the comments section of some opinionated website. That’s the only reach you guys will ever have.
A fan? Frank knows more than you.
From my understanding Frank knows jack shit about all of the many different internal happenings of NXIDUMB. He was with the cult for not even most of a year until he got fired for pissing on VanDumbass. Did he even meet Kristin? Maybe. Did he even deal with her even casually? No. He was there for self-serving purposes to be paid $1 million dollars and other profits for improving NXIDUMB’s PR and saving the Bronfmans from the stupidity of investing their money based on the decisions of VanDumbass. That ended when he offended the pretend to be all-knowing mini-me. All of the information Frank has obtained is from insiders who have leaked the information to him including people like Sarah Edmondson, which he should get no lack of credit for. But unless he has some secret information that he isn’t sharing about Kristin that even her friends and family don’t know ;), the default position is to presume this article is nothing but a tabloid like attempt to bring more traffic to his website like the shitty “sex cult” articles that linked Kristin and Allison together as if they were even remotely the same in this whole series of recent events, or for some other less pure or tainted reasons.
Beetlejuice the Kook stalker is back !
The truth is wrecking his dreams.
You got nothing. Nada. Nihil. Zip. Zilch. Zero. Like what’s in your head.
He is pretending to be someone else but it is obviously him. He is probably masturbating to Pimpin’ Kreuk right now.
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/funny-brown-beetle-cartoon-style-vector-224892601?src=KM1NkG6nsqVm4DfT5GNd9A-1-6
Waaaaah.
Cry some more.
He calls himself so salty because he’s been drinking Keith’s
two ball tonic.
Yeah, this is definitely Beetlejuice. The smug pretentious desperate emotional tone is unmistakable.
Whisper any criticism of Kristin Kreuk in any corner of the entire internet and…
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/42315-oh-hai
You guys got nothing. No evidence whatsoever. The only thing you’ve got are your little dicks on display in a bunch of anonymous comments. Cry some more.
Beetlejuice The Salty Stalker aka Salami Sultan strikes again !
Waaaaah.
Cry some more.
He calls himself so salty because he’s drinking Kieth’s two ball tonic.
So Kristin Kreuk was recruiting female students? Where was she meeting them to target them? The article says they ended up with psychological problems and herpes. So girls/women Kristin Kreuk recruited were having sex with Keith Raniere and ended up with herpes and she was still a hardcore cultist. NXIVM target females for Raniere and Kreuk was doing that. Is it so unreasonable to assume that if girls she recruited were having sex with Raniere and she was fine with it, she may of been doing so too? Hope these women come forward with their stories. Frank Report is a great place for them to express their experiences.
As questionable as Kristen Kreuk’s behavior was, she did not brand women and turn them into sex slaves.
She did not paddle women for failing to maintain a low weight to please the likes of Keith Raniere.
When the time came Kristen Kreuk left the cult.
On the other hand Allison Pimp Mack was “All In” for satisfying the sexual fetishes of Keith Raniere no matter the consequences for herself or others.
Mack bet her whole hand on Keith Raniere and lost everything.
Kreuk does not have do brand women to be criticised. There are/were many NXIVM cultists who did not brand anyone, that does not make them innocent. NXIVM is much more than DOS and Allison Mack. Mack was only in the cult about four(?) years longer than Kreuk.
The brandings and tortures, administered through Allison Mack’s orders, transform DOS into a sex slave ring.
Up to that point one might reasonably assume all activities were consensual.
Give it a break sharpening that axe for Allison Mack. You won’t have any axe left.
We all dislike what she did but you are obviously obsessed about it, or her.
Loosen up, pick a another target. You are starting to come across like drunky grandpa.
Starting?? The old goat is as obsessed and perverted as they come. Ally Wack is gonna do time but Shadow perv needs to be in a mental ward.
I don’t think there has been any credible post here saying KK had sex with Keith.
The suspicion that she did, however, is based on the fact she was a rich, famous, pretty. long-haired brunette with a teenager’s body—the exact type this manipulative sex cult leader craved.
If girls/women recruited by Kristin Kreuk were having sex with Keith Raniere and got herpes from him (according to Frank), then 1) was she actively looking for females for Raniere and 2) did she have sex with him like those she recruited?
In the above article, Frank said “Kristin helped recruit young female students thrilled to be in the same group as she was. Some of these females experienced psychological torture and brainwashing [and herpes] after receiving the teachings of Keith Raniere.”
I highly doubt Frank has identified any specific females recruited by Kristin who got herpes from Raniere…or any who even had sex with him.
If her recruits stayed in the program, they probably would experience mental damage and brainwashing…but unless Frank has real proof, he correctly should have added [and herpes?].
Frank has probably spoken to a lot of insiders/ex members.
Frank claims Kreuk spoke about the brandings privately with ex members. For him to know that, an insider(s) must of told him.
He claims specifically that it was “students” Kreuk recruited.
Kreuk knows a lot more that she does not want revealed. These people are hiding from bad publicity because they know they are not innocent.
In a Vice article, it said Kendra Voth (recruited by Kristin Crook) left the cult in 2009, yet she was named in the 2011 coach list by John Tigue. Why lie?
I’ve read a lot of Frank’s posts here but I don’t recall him reporting this info…as fact:
“Frank claims Kreuk spoke about the brandings privately with ex members. For him to know that, an insider(s) must of told him.
He claims specifically that it was “students” Kreuk recruited.”
Any way you can refer me to his post(s) on this?
It’s literally in this very article. That Kreuk went to Albany and helped to recruit “young female students thrilled to be in the same group as she was”, some of whom ended up physiologically affected and some with herpes.
He also said that while Kreuk was stubbornly and arrogantly refusing to address the NXIVM news, she privately spoke to ex members and said what Raniere did was “horrible”.
I’m not sure i agree with this article but I understand Frank’s position in discussing it.
People with low self esteem are the ones who join cults, obsess over pretentious “self help” and seek fame to get validation from others. If you don’t even like or value yourself, no amount of fame will change that. Kreuk is obviously not a confident person. She wants to be famous and spent at least seven years in a cult, ignoring all the information out there.
February 2012: Kreuk is named in Joseph O’Hara’s criminal lawsuit against NXIVM for assisting and or profiting from NXIVM criminal activity. The Times Union expose came out with women coming forward talking about how they were raped by Raniere as children with a real police report and Kreuk was named in that expose. John Tigue released the Necker Island photographs for the 2010 cult summit with information about how the cult were laundering money and how the attendees on the island discussed money laundering including hiding money in the Caribbean.
Kreuk stayed. Allison Mack posted a picture to her Instagram page in June 2012 of herself, Kreuk and Mark Hildreth in New York. In November 2017, somebody on Reddit claimed “about five years ago” (2012), she did a NXIVM cult course in Albany and Kreuk showed up on the second day looking half alert and her legs unshaven. She stayed on until at least 2013, only leaving because she broke up with a Mark Hildreth and moved to Toronto.
Her silence on NXIVM between 2006-2017 was due to her being very pro-NXIVM. She had no problems with the cult and all the allegations and information out there. Her silence after Frank broke the story (well done Frank), was because she does not want to lose her fame/money privileges and have a bad public image. She only made that weak tepid statement because the press forced it out of her. They should of gone after her in 2012/13. She pretends to care about all these “causes” that have nothing to do with her, but when it comes to talking about something she was 100% deeply involved with, she stays silent proving that her virtue signalling is empty and she is a hypocritical coward on an intellectual and moral level.
In 2017, she attached herself to this Phoolon Devi documentary, kept going on about “patriarchy”, signed an open letter against a theatre employee accused of inappropriate behaviour, retweeted a tweet by Rose McGowen calling for men to side with women, she claimed she never felt safe on set (bullshit), the “need” for more female directors/producers/writers, she claimed women won’t be silent anymore (irony!), she spoke about Weinstein and more. She had a link on her instagram page to something about missing indigenous women (despite the fact 7/10 missing indigenous people are males) yet nothing about the missing body of Kristin Snyder. She said if you are a white male trying to get in the entertainment industry, there is nothing for you and it is a “good thing”. She still has not acknowledged Raniere, Mack, that she was a coach etc.
That reddit article referred to in Frank’s above post was not about Albany.
Around 2012, Kristin appeared “half alert and unshaven” in LA.
By “unshaven” I meant her legs…but if she was in Keith’s harem, her crotch would be too.
Noted, it says LA not Albany 🙂
Are you the person who wrote that Reddit post?
Didn’t write the reddit post…but I read it.
“My disappointment in her lies in the fact that she let her friend, Allison Mack, get fully destroyed by NXIVM and sat by and said nothing.”
Kristin Kreuk is responsible for recruiting multiple people into NXIVM, including Allison Mack but she is not responsible for Mack’s extremely heinous life choices. For whatever reason, Kreuk was wise enough to get out of the cult before the DOS/branding insanity while Mack chose to stay and help create this destructive “sisterhood.” Mack’s horrible choices are on AM and AM alone and Kreuk is in no way responsible. Now I would love it if Kristin Kreuk was more like Sarah Edmondson and talked about how sorry she is for recruiting so many people but we haven’t hear that yet.
You’re right.
Since when did Kristen Kreuk become responsible for baby sitting Allison Mack?
She knew she led a lot of little lambs to the slaughter, Then played dumb.
Many actors and actresses don’t have to play dumb.
They are dumb.
Correct.
Is this why she sought more self confidence thru ESP?
“I was so scared for so long. On Smallville, there came a point where I finally got the courage to give my opinion on something, and it was so hard. I remember being on the phone with the producers and stating my opinion, and then quietly crying. I was so terrified to voice anything. And from that point on, it’s been a slow process of becoming more and more confident, speaking up, and having people listen to me.”
http://collider.com/kristin-kreuk-interview-burden-of-truth/
She can make amends by cutting a deal with the judge to show “Street Fighter the Legend of Chun Li” on a loop in Keith Nancy and Clare’s jail cells. Torture!
torture!
Now that is cruel and unusual punishment.
Just like being married to me, or giving me a colonoscopy, which is about the same thing.
This is how we do it on 3241 Portside Lane,
Plano, TX 75023
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I’d cast my vote for cowardly rather than lacking a conscience.
Beyond cowardice or no conscience….what about blackmail?
Couldn’t Keith or Nancy have embarrassing info that Kristin revealed in EMs?
Or worse, maybe she knew of, or even participated in criminal activity.
Of course, choosing self-preservation in those circumstances can be cowardice also…if you could have stopped more crimes or saved more potential victims.
Kristin Kreuk certainly would of at least known about criminal activity and very possibly participated. She clearly definitely knew about the unethical behaviour going on and did not care. As for blackmail, she never had a problem with the cult and it’s practices. Maybe the cult has information on her but she did not mind. Her silence was due to her being a hardcore supporter of the cult. Now, her silence is to avoid career damage because of her behaviour and participation in this cult.
Read near the bottom.
https://archive.org/stream/292927-ohara-v-raniere/292927-ohara-v-raniere_djvu.txt
NXIVM is so toxic that it has few Saints or Angels.
NXIVM leaves behind lots of victims and only a few survivors.
Is that your definition of success, Keith Raniere?
His definition of “success” is that he gets all his needs and desires met, while living a luxurious lifestyle at the expense of Others. And that the willing, cheerful herd following him believes it is happy and part of a valid world / media / human improvement movement. As said before, KR (I find it harder and harder to type his name) smirked through all of it.
Maybe we should rename KR “Damien Thorn”.
I can’t get over the sight of all those photos with all those eternally smiling NXIVM faces with Mack smiling the most.
Finally the truth is coming out.
A common thread that I notice about these higher-up NXIVM names, is that they all are incredibly shallow people with no conscience or scruples – sociopaths, if you will. Perhaps the NXIVM “teachings” were partly designed to look for people who already had sociopathic tendencies, or at least had personalities that could be manipulated towards sociopathy.
I saw a higher up NXIVM member act with scruples once, but it was only because I said I was going to the D.A.
I think it is more that they are a bunch of cowards.
For all of their nonsense about being on about Ayn Rand, the only ones who have had the courage to go it alone are being called Jane Doe (insert number here) right now.
Anon:
Well, somebody like you (who was there), & somebody like me (who finds things out) know who all the Jane Doe’s are in this case.
People are funny; most take a different attitude when the threat of serious problems arises.
Did you have any further problems with them, after that event happened, or was that the end of it?
Raniere, at heart was seemingly very insecure; it would be almost comical, if it wasn’t for the long list of people he’s caused tremendous harm to.
I don’t think that particular coach every told anybody else what transpired, because they could have been in trouble for creating a problem that could draw more negative attention to NXIVM. Also, it wasn’t a “friendly” D.A. I would have been talking to.
Amazingly (or not really when you consider how dense these people are), I was still getting repeated jness invitations. I guess it was supposed to bring me back to the fold to have the chance to take part in such an elite women’s group.
Raniere has interested, but I wasn’t.
It’s been a while since I was around
I feel aweful I stepped into it. I was well meaning. I thought by being nice to Scott and having a convo where he did not insult people that it would carry over. I knew that he was the most difficult. And I thought that if someone gave him a chance that would help. And it made it worse. Now I feel sick.
I realize it was a mistake to try to get through to him. And I am willing to answer questions. I did not realize that I was part of the problem. I wanted to be part of the solution. I stepped into it not knowing the details.
Barb.
This is true. That’s why Mr. Parlato also took a $1 million dollar free from these same people and only started attacking them after he was threatened with jail time because of them. Otherwise, if they let him keep the $1 million dollars for doing less than six months of work he wouldn’t have given two shits about NXIVM. Everyone involved in this whole set of affairs are self-serving dolts. Word on the street is Mr. Parlato is also into some of his own problematic activities with the law.
1M$ commission on the 26M$ he got back for the Bronfman’s is pretty cheap really.
Most collection agencies charge a helluva lot more than that.
Somebody got her panties in a twist because people are exposing the truth about her not really leaving NXIVM?
Like Kristin would ever post here.
“Exposing the truth”? LOL. This article is all subjective calumny based on nothing but hearsay. Its “evidence” is nothing more than anonymous posts here and on other websites. There is not a single person referenced here who has stated anything on the record about her involvement since she left in 2013. Reddit is now proof? Anonymous comments on this blog are now proof?
The only person with a name who has stated anything on the record about her involvement is Sarah Edmondson who already confirmed that Kristin had nothing to do with the sex cult and has been out since 2013.
So one wonders what is the motivation of this article? What is the purpose in broaching the subject of Kristin Kreuk once again when an article very similar to this was already posted many months ago? More click bait? Is more traffic to a website worth it to sully someone’s character without real evidence, against a likely chance that they are entirely innocent from any wrongdoing?
If so, watch your back. What goes around comes around.
“The NXIVM people are all shallow people with no scruples. sociopaths if you will.”
In other words the top NXIVM people were all actors.
Sociopaths that are trying to overcome their sociopathism (is that a word?) with grandiose ideas that they can heal humanity and its “ethical beach”?
I don’t think sociopaths would try to overcome sociopathic behaviour. The ethics thing is just the vehicle they were using to rip off people .
They are always selling snake oil, whatever they chose to call it.
Wow. Talk about an article that reeks of subjective stank, riding the coattails of the recent media exposure of her new show in order to continue to sully her character and name. Now we know who all the anonymous posters are who keep bringing up the Kreuk.
“Allison Mack very noticeably refused to make eye contact with her NXIVM slave master Keith Raniere at yesterday’s hearing in Brooklyn. She was sitting only a few feet from him and he was clearly trying to get her attention and she was very obviously ignoring him, she shunned him. For those of us that were there watching who know NXIVM protocol this is a huge sign that Allison’s finally turned on Keith,” an eyewitness in court tells HollywoodLife.com EXCLUSIVELY.
“At yesterday’s hearing in Brooklyn Assistant U.S. Attorney Moira Penza, the lead prosecutor for the government’s case, told the judge that the government is in discussions for a plea deal with one or more of the defendants. The way Allison behaved towards Keith in court makes a very good case for her being one of the defendants taking a plea deal. It seems very likely that she’s turned on him or very close to turning,” our witness continues.
“It’s not a done deal yet though because she’s been wavering when it comes to NXIVM and Keith. One day she’s ready to break away from the cult and the next day she’s back in. But that’s part of waking up from something like this, it’s typical of what other members that are in the process of getting out go through. But her behavior yesterday towards Keith and her refusal to even meet his gaze is very telling. We are all taking it as good sign,” our insider adds.
https://hollywoodlife.com/2018/07/26/allison-mack-keith-raniere-court-appearance-shuns-nxivm-leader/
They have a lot of hard evidence in the form of electronic communications.
That being said, a guilty plea would go well towards convicting everybody else.
Plus, she should be able to give them enough information to bring more charges.
I do not believe there is a chance in hell of any deal that doesn’t involve prison time.
I don’t think she’ll avoid prison, but she could easily get the charges reduced. As heinous and downright evil as these people are, most of them are probably first-offenders with PRS’s of 0.
I agree that they have a lot of hard evidence, but at the same time, in any RICO case, there are always additional questions raised that they’ll want answers to.
At the end of the day, it’s all about the money. A lot of the assets are subject to civil forfeiture, and you can bet they want as much out of Clare Bronfman as they can get.
If Allison Mack can fill in some blanks, the Feds will be willing to deal with her, especially if she has knowledge of Salinas’, money laundering, and trafficking.
Time will tell.
Allison Mack still has immigration charges to face for her phony marriage.
That can get tacked on later, and it would be moronic for her not to just plead guilty to get the minimum add on possible of time.
It’s a little late in the game for Allison Mack to save herself.
It’s Albert Speer flipping on Adolf Hitler in 1946.
Shadowboy you’re wrong. It’s not too late, you’ see that if you weren’t busy being so bitter that Allison rejected your advances towards her.
Allison Mack knew damned well that she was selling a fraud to women in Jness and DOS.
Nevertheless she persisted because she was ambitious and wanted to rise in the NXIVM hierarchy.
Allison Mack only developed the glimmerings of a conscience when the brandings and other abuses were exposed by Frank Parlato.
And if Raniere had not been arrested in Mexico, Mack would still be an enthusiastic cult leader.
Allison Mack is a vile, reprehensible woman who, like Lady Macbeth, will never wash the stains of her crimes from her hands.