Larry Shea:  A Sense of Community

Should Clare Bronfman be able to contact NXIVM members?

By Larry Shea

Frank Parlato Jr., with the help of some incredibly strong women, Toni Natalie, Barbara Bouchey, and Catherine Oxenberg (among many others), has been the driving force that has brought the NXIVM cult to its knees. Keith Raniere, the leader of this dangerous cult is in jail awaiting trial largely because of the unwavering perseverance and the Herculean effort of Frank Parlato Jr. Frank continues to fight the good fight against other NXIVM principals, such as Clare Bronfman, Nancy Salzman, Allison Mack, Emiliano Salinas, and many others through his Frank Report and Artvoice.

Some of the readers of these websites have thrown their lot in with Frank Parlato Jr. because we desire to see justice done for all the victims of this cult. Our goal is to see the proper authorities close-down all the Rainbow Cultural Garden facilities, put an end to all the recruitment by NXIVM & its affiliates, and, especially, to end all the human trafficking done by this group for sex and forced labor. Overall, our goal is to see all the principals involved in the NXIVM group and its affiliates, as well as those who are, or were, in charge of day-to-day operations, prosecuted for the crimes for which they are responsible. We won’t be satisfied until the proper authorities have completely stopped the NXIVM cult from exploiting the public anywhere in the world. This is what I believe our community is or should be about.

However, recently a brazen spinner of lies, in the person of Benjamin N. Szemkus, has come into the midst of our community. He has brought along with him a swarm of harmful energy-sucking leeches. Ben Szemkus and his nasty crew of lewd, crude, and rude disrupters and deceivers have created nothing but chaos on the Frank Report. These low-lives have done nothing to advance the goals that I have mentioned above. In fact, they have behaved like a pack of uncouth and unwelcome skunks. Ben Szemkus and his ignorant supporters have diminished and polluted our community and have made it look ridiculous with their obscenities, their vulgarities, and their bullying. They have not offered any real support for the above-mentioned goals. On the contrary, Lyin’ Ben Szemkus and his squad of goons have been a huge diversion and distraction away these stated goals.

Clare Bronfman could not have done a better job of sowing dissension and distraction in our midst. Our community has had enough of these lying and bullying parasites. All of these unwelcome leeches should go back to their pathetic little lives of desperation and leave us the hell alone!

 

 

 

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ionwhitepoetry
5 years ago

LOLZ – My life has been/is anything but a utopia – whatever that word means to you – I have a personal reason for following Frank’s blog and I want to see this to the end, which will hopefully see these monsters in prison. What is your reason for being here? You seem to be a newcomer and are commenting/challenging everyone who posts – Frankly speaking, I think you are a troll along with the more obvious ones. I could be wrong, but I’m not here to debate you or the others. So, yeh, I’m back, reading and commenting where it seems right to do so. I’ve decided to ignore you and those who are here just to troll.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  ionwhitepoetry

I’ve decided to treat you like I do Flowers, I don’t care about you or your life “struggles.” This isn’t a pity party. LOL

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago

Scott has such a crush on me…..I’m not a little, shy lamb Scottie….you should know that!

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Flowers

Yeah, that’s it. I have a crush on a crazy woman who thinks everything is about her. LOL

Mom
Mom
5 years ago
Reply to  ionwhitepoetry

I seriously think Scott has some interesting points about msm. I think we have to stay on subject and not personally attack each other. Scott is a newcomer. He apparently is removed enough from the community to be comfortable using his name. I understand why everyone in the albany area uses nicknames because we may have neighbors involved. And don’t want the attention of neigbors which is a real proven fear.

Up until recently people directed their anger only at NXVIM and their supporters. And that what made things so strong. That’s what brought Keith down. He probably would still be standing if the commentors fought each other. To bring down a major entity you have to be united. Plus think of all the people like me who avoided comments and just passively read it to see who to avoid and what places to avoid.
As long as everyone admits they are on the same page and to respect those who want for the same end to take place. And if venting anger do so productively and aim at the guilty not the innocent.
Perhaps confronting allies work on some sites but it doesn’t work here.
I will agree with Scott that this is not a nice subject so you can’t say nice things. But you can be kind to your allies.
I also think that it doesn’t help that someone is making mean comments towards individuals.
Frank was one of multiple people that brought Keith down. It took the original commentors who were neighbors and ex NXVIM and family members and witnesses who contributed to Keith’s downfall. It happened because the commentors respected each other and told frank what they were seeing. It was because the commentors and frank respected each other and supported each other. And the community were kind to each other and directed their anger and wrath toward Keith and NXVIM. It took support and unity to do so.
I didn’t always like some things posted and somethings were too disturbing. But that’s because it is a disturbing circumstance.
None of this would have worked if everyone fought against each other. None of this works have succeeded if there wasn’t respect and cooperation. Some of the methods were questionable. But maybe that’s what works to bring someone down like that.
To the newcomers who joined after Keith and Allison’s arrest. Welcome. To the originals who have been here commenting Keith never would havd been brought down without you.
Now newcomers these people are on the same side. You owe them a thank you.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Mom

I think you are giving yourself much too much credit. It was Oxenburg, a celebrity, and the New York Times article, especially the scar picture, that forced the FBI to investigate. But go ahead and pat yourself on your back, just don’t hurt yourself.

Mom
Mom
5 years ago

Yes Catherine Oxenberg brought more national attention to NXVIM. Yes her coming forward most certainly speed up things. The FBI has been covertly following NXVIM for years. So yes I agree there Scott. But make no mistake Frank and the contributors here played a part. I personally am not a contributor until this week. Only because I notice that the old cooperation ceases to exist. And so I personally take absolutely zero credit. But I will acknowledge that often various agency and the press and feedback play a part. Also frank and contributors here kept people who live in the areas safe. Gave parents a tool to protect their children. Warning against signing up for the source. Warning against sending kids to rainbow cultural garden. And therefore warning against the group. So frank and those who told us what was happening on the ground was instrumental in bringing down NXVIM. Guess who brought this to the attention of the FBI. Yes Catherine did. But before she did all th ex members including frank and those who contributed here. So it was multiple sources and people. And no I had nothing to do with it. So not patting my back. Like I said I was just a passive reader until now. I am merely an observer who usually doesn’t speak up. But I also know that by respecting peers who are on the same side you get further and are more successful.

What's with the name?
What's with the name?
5 years ago

Frank, why are using the fake name Larry Shea? That’s a well done article. Why not just use your own name?

I know, right?
I know, right?
5 years ago

Seriously You gotta mix up the lingo, dude, if you want anyone to be fooled.

Less boring and far smarter than Scott Johnson
Less boring and far smarter than Scott Johnson
5 years ago

Nah, that’s you, Scott Johnson. 16 years with Amway. SIXTEEN YEARS. You are not very smart.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

12 years being scammed, 4 years “undercover.” I am smarter than virtually anybody on the planet regarding how Amway and other MLM scams work.

BORING!
BORING!
5 years ago

BRAGIG iS VEwY vEWY BORING!

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  BORING!

Another comment that went WAY over your head. LOL

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

You’re not boring, just not very smart.

BORING!
BORING!
5 years ago

NO IAM BORING!

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  BORING!

It’s both.

Boring!
Boring!
5 years ago

IAM BORING nOT SMART lIKE U

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

Lyin’ Larry, that was a very long, empty, and noisy post. So I’m agreeing with you, “EMPTY BARRELS MAKE THE MOST NOISE!” LOL

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

OCD, I’ll sing the praises of the EDNY after Raniere and Co. are convicted and sentenced to very long prison terms. Any man who is having sex with multiple women and leading them on that each of them is his only interest (with or without bribary/threats) is a pig. Consent does not include misleading them by using the lie of omission. Wake up Ladies.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

Mom, thank you for being a passive reader.

seriouspapercut
seriouspapercut
5 years ago

Good heavens i just read these posts you all are acting like a classroom of junior high schoolers with a substitute teacher! Simmer down!!!

BORING!
BORING!
5 years ago

SCOT BORING! WONT GO WAY

ionwhitepoetry
5 years ago

Thank you!

ionwhitepoetry
5 years ago

Thanks for writing this – the leeches that you describe are the reason I stopped visiting Frank’s site here. I have been coming around for a long time before these trolls showed up and I have a vested interest in following Keith’s story to the end. There’s been a distinctly evil (and that IS the right word) cast to the comments and the dissension and arguments they have created made me disgusted. The community that was here prior to their showing up need to ignore them all, not give these creeps any oxygen. No matter what they say to try and bait us into a stupid argument.

orangecountydreams - OCD
orangecountydreams - OCD
5 years ago
Reply to  ionwhitepoetry

IWP, great to see you!!

Mom
Mom
5 years ago
Reply to  ionwhitepoetry

Yes I agree. I don’t add much because I just read the articles. Just to make sure to know what places to avoid. I don’t live in the neighborhoods involved but know plenty of people who do. So as a protective measure I just read. And the old commenters added just as much if not sometimes more information than frank. I stick to the more informative articles but really avoid the what to call the venting or attempts at humor. You get a mix here. But I think if you comment do so to ask questions of frank or other commenters pertaining the subject at hand. Add legit information that is verifiable or make corrections of errors. All others do what I do and just read. And comment on subject and only if you have something to add. Or just read to keep up to date. Read as many or as little as you want. I just like to stick to the facts and only facts. Thank you. Thank you for speaking out.

Now I am going back to relatively passive reader status. Again thanks.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  ionwhitepoetry

IWP – Sorry to invade your utopia with reality. I suggest you go back to your poetry safe-space website.

Mom
Mom
5 years ago

What was the purpose of posting Bens story ? Looking at pictures women Keith surrounds himself with and comparing with stormy is enough to discredit Ben. Stormy is hardly his type.

Ben is the Nxivm Wakefield. He has followers.

How many of the new commentators even know where Halfmoon is? Did they even know anything about Nxivm before Allison’s arrest? Suddenly things have been added and embellished and said that never part of the narrative before her arrest. Seems like people want to add things that have nothing at all to do with NXVIM at all. Why?

All I want to read about is what happens in court. What evidence have they brought up and if and when they arrest the next person. And how long and if they are convicted. And if convicted for how long will they serve?

Anything else is tabloid, theory and suspicion.

The old commenters seemed to be neighbors or ex Nxivm members. Or maybe Nxivm supporters. Either adding details or denying details.
There was also venting and commentary .
But it was mainly informative if not venting.

Look at stormy absolutely not Nxivm style even in the least.
All I ask is stick to facts please.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Mom

Mom, the purpose of Ben’s story being posted was to try to determine whether it is true or false. If false, it was merely about a single night, a social party, where there were no crimes claimed to have been witnessed (except for Ben trying to sell some weed), essentially just a list of people at a NXIVM recruitment event and some personal impressions of them and conversations with them. If false, it’s really not a big deal, certainly not as big of a deal as many here are trying (unsuccessfully) to make it. If true, it’s a bombshell.

bORING!
bORING!
5 years ago

SCOT UR bORING US aLL

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  bORING!

Good, that was my goal. LOL

BORING!
BORING!
5 years ago

DO SUM 1 PAY sCOT 2B BORING

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

You pay me a good laugh every time I see a stupid post from you. LOL

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago

This whole thing is weird. Who knows what’s true or not. If stormy was st the party she would be an exception of women who Keith surrounded himself with. If any truth this is a whole much bigger thing than it appears. Still can’t see Keith interested in stormy.

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orangecountydreams - OCD
orangecountydreams - OCD
5 years ago

I am a little timid with all of the hollering going on here. But I agree with Larry. We are losing really good posters like ionwhitepoetry. Darth Van Douche seems to post less frequently, and his posts were really laser sharp. I would love to get back to substance rather than animosity. Of course, this is a free speech site – say what you want. But some of us were completely overjoyed when KR was arrested. Many of us thought it would never, ever happen, due to his monstrous litigation / bribery machine. I for one am delighted – not at his misfortune – just to see justice prevail. Rather than fighting like cats and dogs, I think we should be singing the praises of EDNY. They obviously have a steel set of basketballs!

There was a great post awhile back about John Tighe and how he was likely framed. That’s why I want KR locked up – if in fact he stole years of a man’s life on a fraud….keep eating moldy lunch meat, K.

orangecountydreams - OCD
orangecountydreams - OCD
5 years ago

l don’t care about who has sex with whom, It’s about consent. Those being bribed / threatened did not give consent. Wake up Ladies.

shadowstate1958
5 years ago

You’re right.
The use of blackmail, trickery, torture and coercion negates all consent.

Larry Shea
Larry Shea
5 years ago

EMPTY BARRELS MAKE THE MOST NOISE!

Let’s see. Scott Johnson fell for the Amway scam, and it took him how long to figure out that Amway was really Scamway? For those who do not know, Amway is a multi-level-marketing (MLM) scam where only the top 10 % make any real money. Now Mr. Johnson has totally fallen for the Ben Szemkus scam. Unfortunately, Scott’s ego and self-esteem appear to be totally invested in Ben’s fairy tale. He needs to believe in Ben’s lies. He cannot muster the humility to admit that he has been wrong about Lyin’ Ben and then move on. I wonder how long is it going to take him to finally realize that he has been scammed again? It’s really too bad because Scott Johnson is neither incurably ignorant nor terminally stupid. Ha has the potential to turn himself around.

Yet, sadly before us we have a gentleman who attempts to pass himself off as some kind of authority on just about everything. How does he present himself? Does he try to educate people by giving them information and facts? Is he patient with those who do not share his opinion? Does he ever admit that he is wrong about anything? Does he display decent manners? does he contribute anything of value? Scott Johnson enjoys bullying other people. He evidently thinks that it is more clever to use insults, obscenities, and put-downs rather than to educate about their errors. In short he behaves in a lewd, rude, and crude manner.Nearly all of his arguments are either ad hoc or ad hominem. He rarely has anything substantial to say, he is overly-fond of attacking anyone who does not agree with him, and he always has to have the last word. My guess is that Scott Johnson is holding onto to a lot of pain deep within his soul. He appears to be a very unhappy person.

Nevertheless, my Pa always used to warn me, “Never get into a pissing contest with a skunk.” By arguing or replying to the bullying of Scott Johnson or any of these other pusillanimous polecats who have infested this website, you are only encouraging them. They simply do not want to recognize any contradictory facts, and they pretend that they know more than anyone else about any given subject. They act like the true standard-bearers of “A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.” Their arguments are always emotional, because they eschew logic, reason, and common sense. They proceed boldly through life in a barbaric manner that is both sincerely ignorant and conscientiously stupid. Their words mean nothing because they are merely the desperate screams, the hollow rants ,and the moonstruck ravings from the outer fringes of reality. Remember, Scott Johnson fell for Scamway, and now he has fallen for the lies of Benny-the-Scammer Szemkus. Like Ben Szemkus, Scott Johnson thrives on any kind of attention. My word to the wise is to IGNORE SCOTT JOHNSON – DON’T REPLY TO HIS ATTACKS ANYMORE. Otherwise, all that he will do is hurl epithets at you.

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago
Reply to  Larry Shea

True about the empty barrels , Larry, but the thing is I don’t think that’s the real reason Scott keeps commenting on every topic. I think he’s putting on a bit of a show for some reason, and I’m curious why.

But you know that old saying….
The truth, just like the sun and the moon, can only stay hidden for so long….
So eventually I suppose the truth will be exposed, I guess.

I agree that you don’t want to get into a pissing contest with a skunk, and recently I’ve had a few run-in with skunks in my neighbourhood. I decided to re-route my walking route rather than challenge the skunk that refused to move from the path. Better a longer walk than a smelly dog.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Larry Shea

Just admit it, Larry. You’re too scared and/or cowardly to come on my radio show. LOL

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

Come on, Lyin’ Larry. Man up – for a change, and respond! LOL

Larry Shea
Larry Shea
5 years ago

YAWN, ZZZ,zzz…

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Larry Shea

No problem, Lyin’ Larry. I’ll just talk about YOU on my radio show.

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago

Wow Frank. I started reading the Frank Report last October, and at that time the comments were pretty respectful and intelligent (except for Luke’s of course) but in the last few weeks the comment section has deteriorated into THIS.

Scott remarks on almost everything, even if he has nothing to say (my condolences to your poor wife for what she has to.put up with, Scott)…The Ramtha faker is here trying to distract everyone with a pretend story that Yelm is now overrun with exNXIVM , and Moosha moosha is as bad as Scott. Thats a lot if Mooshless info, Moocher.

Whats going on here?

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

Oh…and obviously the Mooch writes under various names, ….this is why they put their name in wrong on the last group of comment’s. If they just kept replying with the same name it would have stayed in the name field box, but they obviously really entered it and spelled MOOSHA as MOOSAH.
I’m gonna call you MOOSAH MOOSE from now on.

NC Girl
NC Girl
5 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

Amen! It’s like middle school boys on steroids in the comment section lately.

SC Guy
SC Guy
5 years ago
Reply to  NC Girl

Except it seems to be a couple of women on hormones

shadowstate1958
5 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

Flowers:
You made a comment without trashing me, Shadowstate 1958!

Are you feeling well?

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago

Why, thank you for asking ShadowState.😂
I actually only “trashed “you for certain things, such as teaming up with the lying troll who insists I’m Allies Mom (since that shows a total lack of logic), or any comment that sounds racist/misogynistic.
But I have never trashed your other comments….correct?

I think the problem is you’re unaware that your comments about Muslims etc. are offensive, so you think you’re being “trashed “….

shadowstate1958
5 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

Down below I posted an answer as to why some people believe Allison’s mother was posting comments. It is not quite as crazy as it sounds.

For you I will repeat that answer here:
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Here is why some people believe that Allison’s mother was posting comments on The Frank Report.

Someone would post a comment saying:

1.) “Allison is a good girl.”

2.) “Allison likes reading self-help books.”

3.) “All we have are unproven allegations.”

4.) “Innocent until proven guilty.”

These are the types of statements that a mother might make trying to defend her child.

These statements were made on here earlier this Spring around the time Raniere and Mack were arrested.
————————————————————————————————

At any time Allison’s mother is free to tell me what a nasty person I am for telling the truth about Allison.

As for Muslims, since when did America pass Blasphemy laws making it illegal to criticize a so-called religion?
The US Constitution guarantees Freedom of Speech including the Right to criticize any so-called religion we please.
If Muslims don’t like America’s Freedom of Speech, they are cordially invited to leave America.

Muslims came to America not to assimilate but to conquer and absorb.

And Islam practices sexual slavery for women just like Keith Raniere does.
Mohammed himself had at least 11 wives and numerous sex slaves.

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago

Surely you can see the TOTAL LACK OF LOGIC needed to make the assumption that I’m her mother, or that her mother posts here, – no matter what was posted. Unless the post is in her mother’s name and has a picture of her mother, it is illogical to assume it’s her.

And Frank knows I’m not her mother – I talked to him by email several months before any arrests were made.
I talked to him because what I’ve said is true – I have been harassed by a cult-like group and I’m trying to get answers.
I don’t lie, unlike some of the people who post here.

SultanOfSix
SultanOfSix
5 years ago

– Muslims came to America not to assimilate but to conquer and absorb.

You must have mixed up “Muslims” with “your ancestors” because that’s exactly what they did to the Native Americans, along with murder, torture, rape their women, and pillage them.

SultanOfSix
SultanOfSix
5 years ago

Oh, I also forgot to the mention the four hundred years of slavery based on race for the African Americans. Their systematic humiliation and degradation continues till today. And the shitty treatment of the Chinese along with the Japanese. Also, dropping not one but two nuclear bombs on innocent men, women, and children in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Multiple world wars, the Korean War, the Vietnam war, etc. Let’s also not forgot the centuries of fucking colonialism.

Get over yourself. If you want to play this game, your kind are the worst murderers in existence.

shadowstate1958
5 years ago

Directed to Sultan of Six:

When the Spanish conquistadors came to America they found an Aztec natipon in Mexico that not only practiced slavery it also engaged in human sacrifice and cannibalism.
Cortez and his Conquistadors were the good guys.

And which nation first outlawed slavery?
Why it was the British around 1835.
Do you ever give the British credit for that?
In Arabia official slavery only ended 130 years later in the 1960s and unofficial slavery exists to this day.

Who ran most of the Slave Trade in Africa.
The Muslims out of ports like Dar es Salaam, Zanzibar and Mombasa.
For every African slave taken to the New World 3 African slaves went to the Muslim Middle East.

And while we’re at it why don’t you mention how the Japanese BRUTALLY MURDERED 300,000 people in Nanking China.
On top of that the Japanese made an unprovoked attack against the USS Panay naval vessel, attacked Pearl Harbor without warning and forced thousands of US POWs to engage in the Bataan Death March.

Western civilization has nothing to apologize for.
Take your Muslim malarkey to people who enjoy wallowing in guilt and self-hatred.

SultanOfSix
SultanOfSix
5 years ago

Yawn.

Your death totals in the two World Wars make Genghis Khan look like a boy scout. Your Nazi Germany sent 6 million Jews to the gas chambers. Stalin killed over 18 million people.

You guys shouldn’t be even talking about any other cultures and civilizations. You guys have been far more uncivil and the greatest group of oppressors that all others on this planet.

If you want to fucking stereotype I can do ten times better. Ask all other non-white people who live in other countries outside of your white myth enclosed bubble and you’ll see how they view your “civilization”.

shadowstate1958
5 years ago

Directed to Sultan of Six:
“Your Nazi Germany”

My uncles were in the US military in World War 2 fighting for freedom.

And as for Russia my brother adopted two orphans from Krasnoyarsk Siberia.
Those kids visited me over the weekend.
They are proud patriotic Americans as well as conservative Republicans and devout Christians.
They are blessed to be in America and don’t run down this country at every opportunity.

If you feel America is so oppressive, you are always free to leave.

As for my Russo-American nephews they like to vacation in Nashville and Branson.
They understand America is the greatest country on earth because they have seen the alternatives.

SultanOfSix
SultanOfSix
5 years ago

What does your anecdotal experience have to do with your crass and ignorant generalizations? What do Muslims and Islam have to do with NXIVM, and what does Muhammad have to do with Keith Raniere that has as tenuous a connection to them as the thinness of the biological string that forms a spider’s web except in some agenda driven motivation that exists only in your mind?

Like I said, if you want to generalize people based on your ignorance, I can generalize you “white boys” far worse.

Your so-called “Western civilization” is rooted on genocide, murder, rape, pillage, submission, etc., of indigenous populations and the environment despite some of the benefits it has brought in its wake.

https://ecointernet.org/2017/07/16/never-forget-western-civilization-based-upon-murderous-ecocidal-genocide/

By the way, I’m a natural born US citizen. My father served as a doctor in the US Army and he is responsible for bringing over at least fifty of his relatives LEGALLY to live in the US.

I’m not decrying what the US has done for me you buffoon. You sound like a typical bigoted idiot that Kumail Nanjiani summed up in a recent tweet:

Me: “Racist incidents are on the rise.”

Them: “No they’re not. Go back to India you goat fucker.”

Uncle Sam
5 years ago

Have to agree with you on this one Shadow.
Mr. smelly diaper head should zip it with the u.s. hate or GET!

shadowstate1958
5 years ago

Replying yet again to Sultan of Six:

If you feel that America is an evil, genocidal country, then why do you insist on staying?
You would clearly be happier elsewhere.
———————————

Your Question
“What does Muhammad have to do with Keith Raniere”

I refer you to that noted Islamic scholar Dr. Zakir Naik, a man who says that an unmarried woman is public property.

“Sumanto Chakraborty
2 months ago
This is hilarious…..that an unmarried woman….is a public property……..wow…..”

Why is Polygyny allowed in Islam? – Dr Zakir Naik

SultanOfSix
SultanOfSix
5 years ago

– If you feel that America is an evil, genocidal country, then why do you insist on staying? You would clearly be happier elsewhere.

Man you’re stupid. I never singled out America. And whether America is or isn’t as you describe has no bearing on your absurd generalizations. This is called a red herring. Telling someone to get out of a country (which isn’t even his property) in response to pointing out wrongs or claims of injustice is nothing buy a diversionary tactic.

Shadowdumb: Muslims have come here to absorb and conquer.
SOS: No we haven’t. If you want to talk about conquering other people look at your own Western Civilization and what it has done to numerous indigenous peoples throughout the world for centuries.
Shadowdumb: Get out of “my” country!

– I refer you to that noted Islamic scholar Dr. Zakir Naik, a man who says that an unmarried woman is public property.

No he’s not an Islamic religious scholar. He’s a doctor of medicine and a specialist of comparative religion. He’s also a promoter Salafi theology, a form of Wahhabism, one of the most conservative and extreme interpretations of the religion. That’s the problem with ignorant fools like you. You make absurd generalizations that don’t apply to many Muslims. There are at least 1.6 billion Muslims in the world that span a variety of ethnicities, cultures, political situations, socio-economic conditions, etc., from the coast of West Africa to Indonesia in East Asia, along with large pockets of them who reside in the Americas and Europe. Muslims are not a monolothic entity and neither are their interpretations of the religion. The only indubitable source in the religion is the Qur’an. There is no human authority who determines anything. The only authoritative opinions are those that can be legitimately argued for from the Qur’an in the conceptual framework determined by the meanings of words in the classical Arabic language that it was revealed in.

I didn’t even watch the video but if he stated people can be property his opinion is garbage. No human being is the property of another. Islam is ultimately a religion between an individual and God, not between an individual and a group of people, or any government or country. The entire point of being an Abd-allah, or a slave to God, is that you’re a slave to no one else. You submit only to Him – to an objective set of values “built into” an intelligible Reality that proves His existence – and thus are a Muslim. Not even considering the prohibition against adultery in Islam, that is why no practicing Muslim woman would ever join VanFraud’s master/slave sex cult just from the name.

And I already answered your lame claims about polygamy in a comment of another post.

shadowstate1958
5 years ago

Another reply to Sultan of Six

Keith Raniere liked to lecture his Jewish female followers on how they were reincarnated Nazi leaders.
Why?
To use shame to manipulate them into keeping on as followers.
Had those women the forethought they would have stood up and told Raniere off to his chubby face.

Using shame is your way to manipulate Americans and Westerners and cover up the crimes of Islam.
You operate on the very same principals as Raniere of using shame and counter accusations to control and manipulate anyone who disagrees with you.

When confronted with Islam’s 1400 year history of sex slavery dating back to the days of Mohammed, you respond with slurs on Western Civilization and America.

Islam is above criticism in your book and any historical fact is attacked with slurs and lies and half truths.
You say Wahhabism is a small sect.
Wahhabism controls the main Islamic nation of Saudi Arabia.
The Saudi Royal Family has been in league with Wahhabism for over 200 years.
But in your eyes Americans should not be told the truth about Islam.

The truth about Islam is that it is a religious version of Raniere’s bizarre misogynistic life style.
It used force and violence to destroy the once Christian Middle East and now wants to use deception and force and violence to conquer the whole world with its Satanic political ideology.

Americans and Europeans have nothing to be ashamed of.

Muslims should be ashamed for persecuting Christians and Jews and Hindus for 1400 years.

SultanOfSix
SultanOfSix
5 years ago

– To use shame to manipulate them into keeping on as followers.

All Abrahamic faiths are “shame” based religions you idiot. Shame isn’t always used as a manipulative tool. It is an intrinsic feature of a guided moral conscience to feel shame and subsequently reflect remorse when a soul wrongs itself. Only sociopaths don’t feel shame, and hence can never sincerely feel remorse.

— Using shame is your way to manipulate Americans and Westerners and cover up the crimes of Islam.

LOL. I’m not participating in some agenda driven diatribe against Islam on a site that is irrelevant to it. Also, there are no crimes of Islam. Islam is a set of beliefs. Beliefs don’t commit crimes. People do.

– You operate on the very same principals as Raniere of using shame and counter accusations to control and manipulate anyone who disagrees with you.

No that would be you in lying through your teeth in a lame attempt to associate me, Muslims and Islam in general, with VanFraud and NXIVM, where not even a tenuous connection is existent.

— When confronted with Islam’s 1400 year history of sex slavery dating back to the days of Mohammed, you respond with slurs on Western Civilization and America.

There is no 1400 years of sex slavery in Islam. This is just another one of your horseshit absurd generalizations that you’re throwing at a wall and hoping it sticks. And I didn’t respond with slurs. I posted well-known historical facts and a link to an article from a political ecologist and scientist who has a PhD.

— Islam is above criticism in your book and any historical fact is attacked with slurs and lies and half truths.

You haven’t presented any historical facts. You’ve pasted links to anti-Islamic YouTube videos and said “Here look at this.” It’s laughable that you’ve claimed that I’ve ‘attacked historical facts with slurs and lies and half truths’ when that’s all you’ve been doing.

— You say Wahhabism is a small sect.

I didn’t say Wahhabism is a “small sect”. Can you even read? I said it is one of the most conservative and extreme interpretations of Islam.

– Wahhabism controls the main Islamic nation of Saudi Arabia.

No. The Royal Family controls Saudi Arabia via a monarchist dictatorship – which is an anti-Islamic form of government by the way – due to the help of the US government because of “Big Oil” corporate lobbyists. Otherwise, the latter wouldn’t give a shit about some desert ridden area of land halfway across the world if it didn’t possess the potential to produce a total of approximately 260-300 billion barrels of “black gold”.

– The Saudi Royal Family has been in league with Wahhabism for over 200 years.

Wahabbism isn’t a group of people you moron. The Royal family can’t be “in league” with them.

– But in your eyes Americans should not be told the truth about Islam.

LOL. You’re an idiot. You’re the one who is posting about Islam and Muslims on a website irrelevant to the religion for an *obvious* agenda driven motivation in order to attempt to associate it with this group for some strange reason.

Could you be posting it because of me? Yes, I think so. You know why I think so? Because I’m the only person who posts here that is a follower of the religion. What is your silly little goal?

– The truth about Islam is that it is a religious version of Raniere’s bizarre misogynistic life style.

You don’t know anything about the “truth of Islam”.

shadowstate1958
5 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

I never said that you were Allison’s mother.
I merely said that I understand why some people believe Allison’s mother has been posting comments on this website.
Not everything is about you personally.

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago

Shadowstate, I thought your comment yesterday was agreeing with the person calling me her mom. Sorry…it appeared after my comment and had no name as to who is was addressing.

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago

And now Mom really IS commenting today. She says she has not commented before..that she has just been reading, and suggests we all do the same.
So there you have it…proof that Allisons mom has not been writing comments !
😁😂

FormerChanneler
FormerChanneler
5 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

I never said that Ramthas School of Enlightment was being overtaking by ex nXIvM people. There is a direct link tho. Do your research! Educate yourselves

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago

It was either you, or someone using a similar name to the one you’re using, who said that a day or 2 ago.
Check the comments. They said that Yelm is now over run by ex Nxivm members.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

Sorry to interupt your kissy-face posts with the others. LOL

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5 years ago

BORING!

MooshaMooshaMoosah
MooshaMooshaMoosah
5 years ago

The Jeffrey VI Foundation.

MooshaMooshaMoosha
MooshaMooshaMoosha
5 years ago

The Jeffrey Epstein VI Foundation

MooshaMooshaMoosha
MooshaMooshaMoosha
5 years ago

It would appear that Brooklyn born, convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, had a little black book. Among the names listed is Edgar Bronfman and Bill Clinton. The Miami FBI has it I believe.

Also per an in Vanity regarding Epstiein, and insider trading. The Seagram company
was mentioned.

Small world, eh, Clare BEAR?

MooshaMooshaMoosha
MooshaMooshaMoosha
5 years ago

Might I add, convicted, registered paedophile, Jeffrey Epstein’s gal pal, Ghislaine Maxwell attended Chelsea Clinton’s wedding.

Missing YOGA AND WEDDING emails.

shadowstate1958
5 years ago

Read the book about Epstein titled “Filthy Rich.”

Ghislane Maxwell was Epstein’s Pam Cafritz

Larry Shea
Larry Shea
5 years ago

Jeffrey could not go because he is a convicted sex offender, I ma sure that was because there children at the wedding, or else the Clinton’s did not want the bad publicity. Yes, two little birds of a feather, Pam and Ghislaine. Truly lovely people, as Bandar Bush used to say about the bin Laden family.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago

Of course his good pal Billy “Bullshit” Clinton gave him a Presidential pardon

shadowstate1958
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Clinton was no longer President in 2007 to give Jeffrey Epstein a pardon.
But George W. Bush’s DOJ sure cut a sweetheart deal for the pervert.

Epstein essentially got a year in a half-way house.
According to Robert Patterson’s book “Filthy Rich”, a Florida school principal who tried to solicit a boy over the internet got a full freaking 10 years.
And Epstein’s butler, who sold Epstein’s Black Book to the tabloid press, got the book thrown at him.
Epstein’s butler received more time in prison than Epstein.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

Larry Shea
Larry Shea
5 years ago

Moosha, it goes a lot deeper than that, Financier and convicted sex-offender Jeffrey Epstein’s chief procuress was Ghislaine Maxwell, the youngest daughter of Robert Maxwell, the deceased Israeli espionage operative and disgraced media mogul. Bill Clinton flew on Epstein’s jet, the Lolita Express, 26 times according to the airplane’s logbook. Donald Trump, along with Jeffrey Epstein, and Trump’s good friend, multi-billionaire Tom Barack, were “a set of nightlife musketeers” during part of the 80s and the 90s. There is much more that could be told. The three former “nightlife musketeers,”, along with Bill Clinton’s charming wife, Hillary, are members of the deviant elite.

NXIVM has attracted its own set of deviant elites. That Epstein would have run in the same circle, as Edgar Bronfman comes as no surprise to me. Epstien has claimed that he only handles investments for billionaires. One simply has to look at the history of the old Bronfman Crime Syndicate to realize what bottom-feeders many of them have been and are. Alcohol is a very dangerous and addictive drug; it kills far more people worldwide than all the other addictive drugs put together! Seagrams, my arse!

MooshaMooshaMosha
MooshaMooshaMosha
5 years ago

Did someone say Miami?

The Jeffrey Epstein VI foundation.

Brooklyn born, convicted registered sexual predator.

His pal Ghislaine Maxwell attended Chelsea Clinton”s wedding.

Nissing YOGA AND WEDDING emails.

“Here are some of the better known names listed in a list of Jeffrey Epstein contacts maintained by his late, longtime Florida housekeeper Alfredo Rodriguez and now entered into the federal court docket in Miami.”
https://www.justice-integrity.org/791-ken-starr-explains-his-help-for-billionaire-pervert-jeffrey-epstein

On the list- Edgar Bronfman. And Bill Clinton.

Per Vanity Fair-
“In 1981 the S.E.C.’s Jonathan Harris and Robert Blackburn took Epstein’s testimony and that of other Bear Stearns employees in part of what became a protracted case about insider trading around a tender offer placed on March 11, 1981, by the Seagram Company Ltd. for St. Joe Minerals Corp.”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303

MooshaMooshaMoosha
MooshaMooshaMoosha
5 years ago

Scott Johnson enjoys lying. It makes him feel gooooooood. Now that his limp pecker isn’t working.

So now he gets his kicks on going to message boards, spreading lies, and attacking everyone to make himself feel better.

Get a job Scott. No one is reading your comments anymore you limp dick liar.

Guess who
Guess who
5 years ago

Play stupid games and win stupid prizes, bright little star.

Have a nice day.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Guess who

Way to go, Moosha. You just won the stupid prize from Guess who, bright little star. LOL

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5 years ago

BORING!

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

Moosha, you can’t name a single lie I’ve made. That makes YOU the liar. You also have zero knowledge of the actions of my penis. Would you like to know more? Sicko. LOL

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5 years ago

BORING!

Stupid is what stupid says
Stupid is what stupid says
5 years ago

I miss Luke, where has he been? He had really stupid things to say but at least they dealt with NXIVM issues. Unlike other’s who have started to post here that has nothing to do with the real issues at hand and just need attention. I now just skip over certain posters like Scott Tex. Not worth my energy to read his posts

Luke, The smelly one, your father, wants you to start posting your mindless posts again. At least they were entertaining to read

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

It’s stupid to skip over my comments, but stupid is in your name, so what else should we expect? LOL

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5 years ago

BORING!

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago

Start the Scott Johnson drinking game
Do “Ctrl+A and Ctrl +F and add the letters “LOL”
For everytime Scott Johnson laughs at his own posts.. take a drink.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Ha! 12 in this thread alone!

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Anonymous

It certainly feels like I’m debating a bunch of drunks. Too easy! LOL

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5 years ago

BORING!

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

Larry, the NXIVM sage is essentially over. You have very little influence, the DOJ/FBI are doing their thing. Sorry I’m not stroking your ego (not really sorry), but most of the commenters have added very little in terms of substance. The treasure trove the FBI collected several months ago dwarfs whatever input you may have to the final outcome. LOL

Just admit it, many of you got bent out of shape with Ben’s story. It was a single night, he didn’t claim witnessing any crimes, with exception of him trying to sell some weed. If Ben’s story is a lie, very little harm is done. It’s totally different than PizzaGate, as the person most responsible is completely out of harm’s way, in jail. If it’s true, it blows the NXIVM story wide open. Grow up. Get a grip. LOL

MooshaMooshaMoosha
MooshaMooshaMoosha
5 years ago

Scott Johnson, you have no job and no life. You were sued by Amway and had to settle like a whiny crybaby.

Larry has contributed 100x more than you ever will.

Go Away Scott Johnson. No one here likes you anymore. We are kicking you off our blog.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

Another lie. I have a great job and kicked Amway’s corporate butt. I chose to settle because I won. LOL

What has Larry contributed? A tear[-jerking “community” post? LOL

This isn’t your blog to me off of. LOL

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5 years ago

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Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago

Grow up and get a grip?
Says the guy promoting a childish story, and insulting everyone who dares to criticize or poke holes in this fairy tale.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Flowers

Flowers, this is Frank’s blog, remember? He chose to post Ben’s story, not me. Neither me nor Frank are “promoting” Ben’s story, we’re throwing it out there for comment, good or bad. LOL

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5 years ago

BORING!

Larry Shea
Larry Shea
5 years ago

YAWN!, ZZZ, zzz…………

FormerChanneler
FormerChanneler
5 years ago

Wasn’t Oxenburg formly tied Ramtha Frank?
Ever looked into their cirriculum? So similar to NMXIVN! Especially the non disclosure agreement stuff. It’s mind control at its best and human group experimentation in the town of Yelm.
Time to graze bigger pastures and set your stakes in Yelm infiltrating Ramthas School of Enlightment. A creepy cult no one wants to touch in media because of the high powered stars involved, who also crossed over briefly to the NXIMN cult.
Maybe they will send you to “Paradise Beach” once you have inflitrated… ask around what that is to Ramthites. It’s literally bone chilling especially if it’s 40 degrees.
Ramtha cult has flown under the radar for quite awhile. Really hope it’s in season 2 of People Investigates:Cults on ID Channel or on Season 2 of A&Es Cults and Extreme Belief

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

Cults aren’t illegal, at least in the USA. It’s called the First Amendment of free speech and religion. NXIVM isn’t charged with being a cult, they are being charged with sex trafficking and related issues. Go find a different tree to bark up or provide some information regarding this group breaking laws.

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5 years ago

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Kybele
Kybele
5 years ago

Thank you. I believe in the strength of combined interests and view points of citizens to help make right in caring for and holding each other accountable along with holding power accountable to those it’s sworn to serve.

Civility and inclusion are calling cards of functioning democracy, it’s why authoritarian power finds such simple things so dangerous and works to foment discord, strife and division among it’s peoples.

Any time people gather, at the library or online, civility and inclusion allows communities to bloom and handle anything from the adversity of natural disasters to cults around the corner and scores a point for democracy.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Kybele

Gag. Please go back to Utopia. By the way, it’s in a different universe.

Boring!
Boring!
5 years ago

SCOT BE BORING!

Kybele
Kybele
5 years ago

I’m happy to tell you that what you call *Utopia* is actually the United States of America, even in the mess it’s in.

In my state, a populated, urban district primary for state rep was won by nine votes.

We forget that We the People put the *Demos* in democracy and when we step out the wolves will always step in.

If mere civility is so sweet that it makes you gag, you have been sucking on bitter for too long and that I’m sorry for. Regardless, anyone who voices such utter contempt for civility has no productive place in a comment section as you simply out yourself as a troll.

Between your attitude and unacceptable spaming in the comments, I wish you’d take your troll boat and sail on into the sunset.

Heinrich Joey
Heinrich Joey
5 years ago

I’m just waitin’ for that next round of indictments. I’m obsessed with it. Sittin’ on the edge of my seat. When will it happen? Within two weeks…or at the end of July? That’s when we’re gonna see action. Clare and Salzmans? Maybe more? That’s why I come to this blog every day. To get updates on the next round of indictments. That’s when somethin’s gonna happen, I think. Because Clare has a great big jet. She could do a Roman Polanski.

FormerNexian
FormerNexian
5 years ago
Reply to  Heinrich Joey

We had the lead on Clare’s jet – making weird stops in Miami, then the Bahamas. When it could have flown direct from NY to the Bahamas. Hello.

Plus, she cannot just disappear her trust. I imagine she’s going to face a ton of civil lawsuits when she’s convicted. How do you defend a Federal lawsuit if you are in prison? Not very well…

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Heinrich Joey

Heinrich, get a life. LOL

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5 years ago

BORING!

I wish we could blame that moron entirely
I wish we could blame that moron entirely
5 years ago

But we can’t. Allison’s mother has been cyberstalking Shadowstate for a while. Mr Amway arrived, and the other nasty Mike S. who changed his name to jingleheimer whatever, who likes to attack those of us who got away from NXIVM.
Now we have whoever wants to spam their issue with the Seattle whatever cult.

I miss our old camaraderie and banter. Coming to the comments section was like seeing what old friends have shown up that day. Orangecountydreams or onewomanarmy or Laura or our favourite big eared albany county defence attorney or FormerNexian. I really appreciate all of you. It has helped me emotionally to have exchanges with you.

I don’t know that there is much we can do about it, except to do our best to ignore them, which I admit is easier said than done at times.

shadowstate1958
5 years ago

When I was a child my parents taught me that to survive I had to develop an elephant’s hide and ignore criticism.

If Allison’s mother has an issue with me, she should come out of the shadows and identify herself and let me hear it.
I bear no ill will towards Allison’s mother.
I understand that what she is undergoing must be agonizing for her.

But Allison’s mother, and Allison herself, must recognize that what Allison Mack did was evil.
It was stupid for Allison Mack, who had a decent career as a TV actress, to throw in her lot with a charlatan and fraud like Keith Raniere.
But Allison went further and chucked away any sense of right and wrong in blindly following Raniere in his scams and abuses of people.
For twelve years Allison made one bad decision after another and even threw away her moral compass.
Her ability to distinguish right from wrong.

And now Allison and her mother must suffer the consequences of Allison’s horrible decision making.

I take no joy in this sorry state of affairs.

whatever name Allison's mother uses
whatever name Allison's mother uses
5 years ago

Flowers, Bat, Facts not Speculation, etc…

There is a tiny sliver of me that actually starts to feel sorry for Allison. We all start out products of our environments, and her parents selling her to the entertainment industry at an early age probably really screwed her up.

That being said, we all reach a point where we are capable of making our own decisions, so for as much as her mother is obviously a complete twat, Allison deserves what she has coming to her.

shadowstate1958
5 years ago

When the trial is over, no matter how it turns out, if Allison’s mother wants to come on here and lecture me on how “mean” I have been to Allison, I will hear her out and respond.

I live near Chicago and I have seen plenty of young people with fewer opportunities and breaks than Allison received.
And when those young people screw up I have seen them treated far worse than Allison has been treated by US Judge Nicholas Garaufis.

So far Judge Garaufis and the US Attorney’s office for the Eastern District of New York has treated Allison Mack with kid gloves.
Far kinder than Allison Mack treated the “slaves” under Allison’s direction.

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago

The only “twat” is you. How do we know YOU’RE not Allisons mom? Lol.
As if she actually would post here. Too funny.

I’m actually pretty sure you’re not a former NXIVM member at all – it seems you’re more likely a mentally disturbed lookie-loo who is only posting here to be malicious and disruptive. How can we know you’re really a former member?
What pleasure does it give you to post insulting BS directed towards me?
No doubt you also post as Bat and Figures, Facts etc… and then pretend that it’s “Allisons mom”.
Don’t you have anything more useful to do with your time?

shadowstate1958
5 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

What is more malicious than taking a hot iron to people’s flesh and branding them like cattle?
Since when is it controversial to call evil out?

Nice try
Nice try
5 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

Allison’s mother.

Your vitriol is easily recognisable whatever you change your name to.

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

Shadow state …are you as dumb as the one who insists I’m Alison’s Mother? Lol.

Are you people some weird type of troll? No one could possibly be dumb enough to believe Alison’s mother posts here, so you have to be faking it. Also, why in the world would anyone presume I’m defending Allison. I’ve never once said anything in her favour. Its totally illogical.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Flowers

Flowers, most of us couldn’t care less about who you are, your story, etc. There, does that make you feel better? LOL

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Flowers

What is more malicious than taking a hot iron to people’s flesh and branding them like cattle? How about using a cauterizing iron and burning the sensitive flesh near the vagina for 20-30 minutes? I think that’s much more malicious than a second or two of a hot iron. Do you agree?

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

Actually Scott, if you’re not interested in “my story” (and I don’t expect you to be) then just don’t comment. It’s pretty simple.
Youve never explained your purpose here Scott- you showed up , apparently,.to push the fake Ben story, and you were extremely rude and abusive (mainly to me) while you treated a very delusional “Tanster” with respect. It’s odd, Scott. It’s not normal behaviour. …just like these morons who pretend they really think I’m Allisons mom. Since it’s impossible for anyone to be that stupid, they are obviously lying.
Why?

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Flowers

Flowers, I don’t owe you any explanation. I don’t care about you, remember? I gave you a chance to talk and you cowardly declined. Case closed.

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago

What evidence do you have that Alisons mothers posts anything here – since you accuse me of being her and I’m not, it seems like a delusion you’ve created in your mind…. it only makes you sound unhinged to accuse people of being her mom.
I seriously doubt her mother has ever posted here.

Nice try
Nice try
5 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

Allison’s mother. We all know it’s you. You are easily recognisable.

Copying our language to try to call us lookie loos because that is what we call other people. Trying to accuse us of being you because you think you are so slick.

Your daughter thought she was so slick, too, and look where that got her.

At least she is obviously where she gets it from.

Flowers
Flowers
5 years ago
Reply to  Nice try

You truly can’t be that stupid to believe that Alison’s mom posts here, so what is your agenda? And what do you mean by changing my name. That”s the same name I’ve used all along, with the same logo, correct? So how could it have been changed?

Cut this out
Cut this out
5 years ago
Reply to  Nice try

Please respect the site and refrain from devolving the conversation into mad speculation.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Cut this out

CTO, you need to read the comments more, mad speculation is what the comments are all about, with the emphasis on mad. LOL

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Flowers

Just in case you didn’t see my earlier reply above, I’ll repeat it here: Flowers, most of us couldn’t care less about who you are, your story, etc. There, does that make you feel better? LOL

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BORING!
5 years ago

SCOT BORING!

shadowstate1958
5 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

Here is why some people believe that Allison’s mother was posting comments on The Frank Report.

Someone would post a comment saying:

1.) “Allison is a good girl.”

2.) “Allison likes reading self-help books.”

3.) “All we have are unproven allegations.”

4.) “Innocent until proven guilty.”

These are the types of statements that a mother might make trying to defend her child.

These statements were made on here earlier this Spring around the time Raniere and Mack were arrested.

FormerNexian
FormerNexian
5 years ago

Thanks I wish. I’ve always said we have different pieces of the NXIVM puzzle… only by working together can we pull the plug on this diseased body of work crafted by Keith, Nefarious Nancy, and Scarecrow (Clare).

We also seek justice for Kristin Snyder. The real tragedy is the countless lives and families ruined by these charlatans. For what? A bored pedophile? Two rich heiresses with Daddy issues? The feeling of love and being loved, that at its essence was manipulation?

There is no WHY. It just is.

So we keep up the fight. Support the brave people like Toni Natalie, Sara Edmonton, and Catherine Oxenberg. And we do all we can to make sure Keith Raniere never sees daylight again!

STAY STRONG. STRONGER TOGETHER. STRONGER THAN EVER!

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  FormerNexian

Sarah Edmondson should not be put in the same category as people who were real victims of Keith Raniere/NXIVM, nor should she be put in the same category as those who actually exposed the cult and it’s members years ago, but were ignored and even attacked by NXIVM for doing so (Toni Natalie, Susan Dones, John Tigue, James Odato, Frank Parlato, the victims of Raniere’s paedophilia and rape etc).

Sarah Edmondson didn’t give a shit about all the victims of NXIVM/Raniere and continued to be a cult member, only leaving in 2017 after she was personally affected by the cult. Did she not believe the women who accused Raniere of paedophlile rape in February 2012? Did she simply not care?

Sarah Edmondson stayed with NXIVM through all the exposure, helping the cult to profit. Now she is seen as a victim/hero after she was personally affected and came forward. Why not all the media exposure for the women who came forward in February 2012? That is not fair to the early opponents and victims of NXIVM and Raniere. What if Claire Bronfman or Nancy Salzman were tricked into being branded? Would they be victims after what they have done?

It’s hard to see Sarah Edmondson as a victim and impossible to see her as a hero. She continued to be a hardcore Raniere supporter after the real victims and opponents came forward and she did not give a shit.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Also, by “real victims”, that meant victims from years ago before all the bad exposure and publicity. It was wrong for anyone to be branded, but it is true that there were plenty of vocal victims and opponents of NXIVM years ago who were ignored and even attacked for leaving the cult and/or speaking out.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Anonymous

If it wasn’t for Sarah Edmondson’s notoriety, Frank may still be blogging in relative unknown status.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  Anonymous

P.S., notoriety and providing a picture of her scar. A picture is still worth a thousand words.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  FormerNexian

There is a why. It’s called evil. Just like some evil lawyer who makes ambulance chasers look reasonable, because he causes 100s of “accidents” to happen and then chases the ambulance. He gets fined about $175,000 and 3 years suspension, which is upheld by a higher court, and then pretends he can preach to the rest of us. LOL

FormerNexian
FormerNexian
5 years ago

That’s funny Scotty (I worked for ScAmway for 12 years) Johnson – it appears you don’t post about your job because you don’t have one.

You listed a FAKE JOHNSON ENTERPRISES IN PLANO, TX as your place of employment, but that name is not owned by you and is not listed as an active business with the Texas Secretary of State.

Next, my law license IS IN PERFECT STANDING, as you have verified on the State Bar website.

So, it appears, YOU ARE A BORING, PATHETIC, COWARDLY, UNEMPLOYED, DELUSIONAL LIAR that acts like a big shit on a message board, but is probably a weak ass coward in real life.

Hahahahahaahahah!!!

MISTAH SCOTTIE BORING

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  FormerNexian

I have a job, but you won’t be able to practice law for 3 years after your appeals are exhausted. Are you representing yourself, or throwing money down a sh!thole and paying another blood-sucking lawyer like yourself? It’s not a fake name, it’s just the same name I used when I was in Amway, and it’s inactive. Are you like Lyin’ Larry, Ripoff Rosales, and too scared to come on my radio show and face the music? It’s okay, I’ll talk about YOU on my show as well. LOL

orangecountydreams.com
orangecountydreams.com
5 years ago
Reply to  FormerNexian

Well said. Thank you.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

Thank you, and you’re welcome.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

Go to your local pub for your “old camaraderie and banter.” This isn’t a social club, it’s a website dedicated to bringing down scammers. First the Niagara Falls cruise scam, then NXIVM, what’s next? Could it be AMWAY? LOL

Please ignore me, I love getting in the last word. In fact, it was the last question the Amway lawyer, himself a former Amway scam artist, with his upline Diamond subsequently sentenced to 20 years in prison because of various financial scams, and himself a lawyer as well, asked me during my video deposition. He asked me if I like getting in the last word. I said “yes.” The deposition was over, and I’m still getting the last word in to 10s of thousands, if not 100s of thousands of people, perhaps more, warning them about Amway’s scam. So much for Amway winning the settlement. LOL

P.S., you brought up Amway, not me. LOL

BORING!
BORING!
5 years ago

MISTAH SCOT. SO SUPER BORING!

Gobsmacked
Gobsmacked
5 years ago

Ditto

shadowstate1958
5 years ago

I agree with your sentiments on Frank Parlato as well as Catherine Oxenberg, Toni Natalie and Barbara Bouchey.
These brave people spoke truth to power and brought down an evil institution.

I would like to add Sarah Edmondson to the list.
Sarah trusted in NXIVM and its program.
And Sarah trusted her duplicitous “friend” Allison Mack when Mack promised to let Sarah in on more secrets through the DOS section of the cult.

And Allison Mack used and abused Sarah Edmondon’s trust to use and abuse Sarah personally.
And brave Sarah stood up and publicly protested Allison Mack’s perfidious behavior.
Sarah Edmondson was the main source to publicly come forward and accuse Mack and Raniere of branding women.
And Sarah Edmondson went to the New York Times, the premier newspaper in the country to expose the brandings and the physical abuse that Allison Mack and Allison’s Banshees had inflicted upon her.

What was more convincing of the madness of NXIVM and its fanatical followers than Sarah Edmondson showing the branding inflicted upon her?
Even NXIVM could not deny pictures that documented Allison Mack and Keith Raniere’s cruelty towards women.

As for the NXIVM harpies trying to spread discord within our ranks, we should ignore them.
They only feed on hatred and division and discord just like Raniere himself.

But if that is not possible give them back their abuse measure for measure.

Show Raniere and Mack and Cruella Bronfman that we will not give in to their bullying.

As Sir Winston Churchill himself said:
“Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in, except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”
― Winston S. Churchill, Never Give In!: The Best of Winston Churchill’s Speeches

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

The “discord” is coming from the other side towards the relative newcomer commenters. You were enjoying your safe-space, then some people came along after this site started getting lots more traffic and you turned inward rather than reach out and welcome some new blood and new ideas. You had your happy little “it takes a village” where everyone was agreeing with everyone else and getting their egos massaged, then came CHANGE. LOL

BORING!
BORING!
5 years ago

MISTAH SCOT IS REALLY BORING!

GENTE AYUDANDO GENTE
GENTE AYUDANDO GENTE
5 years ago

Excuse me, I am using the Google translator. Now to start I would like to say I have been reading this blog since 2016 I arrived here looking for information about Allison Mack and her relationship with Keith Raniere ‘since I found several articles related to this subject and with her as well as with Kristin Kreuk and since then I have been reading and listening to what Frank publishes the same I see the different commentators that appear here and I must say that your shadowstate1958 is a special case at first I did not understand why some of those who commented here accused you of being an Allison Mack stalker in your twitter and you used another name, I never really care but time passes and I continue to see your obseciva behavior with Allison and I have no doubt about it many times you try to deny it as you did in comments above but your own words always betray you Although we know the information published by frank about NXIVM we know well that allison never had the power that you want to attribute go all the way to frank only the idiot call useful because he knows the real level of power that she had lauren is above Allison in ESP is only below her in DOS but not even there has more power than she really because it is the Keith himself who ultimately makes important decisions and relies more on Lauren because he knows of her ability to be mentioned as second in command of the cult only proves that from the beginning there were plans to use her as a scapegoat even all the strategies of Keith Raniere in that sense and frank has described here also the same information published by frank shows clearly that Sarah Edmondson never accused Allison Mack of being his recruiter she always said that her teacher was Lauren and Lauren is someone Sarah had more Confidence was even one of your bridesmaids at your wedding and even though you yourself use the already published frank articles as a reference you keep writing against llison as if she were the mastermind behind every thing one day of these say that it was not the cult of Keith but that of Allison seriously your obsession with her is very evident.

Allison's Mom?
Allison's Mom?
5 years ago

Gente Ayudando Gente (which I believe means, “People Helping People”): Not sure if you will be able to read this; perhaps someone whose Spanish is not as rusty as mine can translate. I took Spanish a LONG time ago and don’t remember enough to write my response in Spanish.

The hatred of Allison in the comments of this blog is disproportionate and irrational…especially considering the fact that the same people who take every opportunity to blast her (even when the thread has nothing to do with her) rarely if ever direct the same level of vitriol at the mastermind behind all of it, Keith Raniere. And you make an excellent point about the fact that it was Lauren Salzman, not Allison, who got Sarah Edmondson into DOS and pressured her into the branding ritual. Facts and details are frequently ignored here to keep pushing an overly simplistic narrative. This story is incredibly complex and involves many people who have varying degrees of complicity. The real, consistent evil is, and always will be, Keith Raniere. That doesn’t mean that no one else did anything wrong. But it’s ridiculous to focus on someone like Allison when Keith Raniere had decades of evil-doing before she even came onto the scene. Keith Raniere was hurting people when Allison was in diapers.

GENTE AYUDANDO GENTE
GENTE AYUDANDO GENTE
5 years ago
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thank you for noticing, as I said I came to this blog looking for information about Allison and Kristin and his relationship with this guy Keith Raniere and although at first when he saw the articles in which frank described the relationships of Keith Raniere and the different women he had in Her haren seemed hard to believe I was very attentive to Allison’s publications on her social networks and her blog and to my regret I realized that she could be in this toxic relationship with Raniere and that she tended to say half truths about it. that now is a tactic taught in NXIVM, about saying only the strengths of the story that he wants to tell or lie to protect his supposed mission and all that I was learning both read this blog and paying attention to what he published in particular her writing on the blog because here she let see her thoughts and feelings, she had the hope that she would open her eyes before it was too late but then frank I discovered the history of the brand and the slavery of women and how I was all surprised to see how Allison had twisted but the more I learn what frank manages to discover about the matter, I realize that Allison was not only a victim of Keith Raniere and who became victimizer like other women in his haren but I also see that his chances of getting away with this were few since frank started the blog in 2015 and according to the information released so far in that year started the DOS and the whole matter of the brand and slave of keith so for that moment when the readers commented on why she followed him and the current situation was cooking and still many of the other NXIVM members that did not know about the brand did not even bother to see beyond their noses including Sarah Edmondson and Mark Vicente so if these two members were too blind to see their situation let’s imagine the situation of All ison being leader in DOS is why to attack her as if it were the most evil of women is silly but above all is to deny the reality of all the other members of NXIVM that consciously or unconsciously were complices of keith

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)

Ever hear of punctuation? Take a breath. LOL

It's just data
It's just data
5 years ago

Very well.said. Leave it to Clare or anyone following her orders now that the slimy one is behind bars to create a swan of wasps to distract and disrupt what has been exposed about these horrible criminals and their crimes.

Not likely they will stop but either will we. Readers are going to have to wade through the bullshit, as Edgar Boone would say, to read between the crap from the disruptive Clare followers and what needs to be said by the true defenders of truth.

Some are fearful of the truth and only take in what their Masters tell them.

Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)
Reply to  It's just data

Some like to have their egos stroked. Please don’t respond. As I said above, I LOVE getting in the last word. LOL

Christ
Christ
5 years ago

Log off permanently, Scott.
(Can someone block this chode’s IP?)

BORING!
BORING!
5 years ago

SUPER-BORING!

BORING!
BORING!
5 years ago
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I AM BORING & SCOT IS BORING ME!

About the Author

Frank Parlato is an investigative journalist.

His work has been cited in hundreds of news outlets, like The New York Times, The Daily Mail, VICE News, CBS News, Fox News, New York Post, New York Daily News, Oxygen, Rolling Stone, People Magazine, The Sun, The Times of London, CBS Inside Edition, among many others in all five continents.

His work to expose and take down NXIVM is featured in books like “Captive” by Catherine Oxenberg, “Scarred” by Sarah Edmonson, “The Program” by Toni Natalie, and “NXIVM. La Secta Que Sedujo al Poder en México” by Juan Alberto Vasquez.

Parlato has been prominently featured on HBO’s docuseries “The Vow” and was the lead investigator and coordinating producer for Investigation Discovery’s “The Lost Women of NXIVM.” Parlato was also credited in the Starz docuseries "Seduced" for saving 'slave' women from being branded and escaping the sex-slave cult known as DOS.

Additionally, Parlato’s coverage of the group OneTaste, starting in 2018, helped spark an FBI investigation, which led to indictments of two of its leaders in 2023.

Parlato appeared on the Nancy Grace Show, Beyond the Headlines with Gretchen Carlson, Dr. Oz, American Greed, Dateline NBC, and NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt, where Parlato conducted the first-ever interview with Keith Raniere after his arrest. This was ironic, as many credit Parlato as one of the primary architects of his arrest and the cratering of the cult he founded.

Parlato is a consulting producer and appears in TNT's The Heiress and the Sex Cult, which premiered on May 22, 2022. Most recently, he consulted and appeared on Tubi's "Branded and Brainwashed: Inside NXIVM," which aired January, 2023.

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Contact Frank with tips or for help.
Phone / Text: (305) 783-7083
Email: frankreport76@gmail.com

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