I’ve reached a point where I feel I might crack if I don’t speak up. I now feel it’s a moral imperative to say something—even anonymously for now (I fear for my own safety and the safety of those I care about).
Clare Bronfman, I read your letter and I can’t take it. I’ve known you for years and I’m sorry to say you are lying. The problem is I’ve never been able to say anything because I and many others are scared of you. But now I need to say it. We’re scared because you are cold and emotionless, other than breaking down in intensives and feeling sorry for yourself. We’re scared because, like they said on 20/20 last night, you do ‘terrorism by litigation.’ You go after the people who leave and ruin their lives. This is why I’m writing anonymously.
Last night watching 20/20 was the final straw. I have to comment on your letter. [Editor’s note: to help distinguish between Clare’s original letter and the comments, I will put Clare’s original letter in bold.
A note from Clare Bronfman
The past few months have been deeply painful for me, as I have seen my friends, associates, and the organization I care for come under fire.
(Clare, why do you suppose we’ve come under fire? Is it because the tactics you and Keith and Nancy have used are cruel and immoral and have finally started an uproar? You’ve tried to destroy anyone that leaves or says anything. You told me they were criminals but I know some of these people. I think you are lying. Also how did you and Keith author us being under fire? Why is it never your fault? Why are you and he never wrong? Why do you not take responsibility? I thought that was the basis of our teaching?!)
Some have asked me why I remain a member and why I still support NXIVM and Keith Raniere.
(Clare, before you launch into self righteousness – you remain a member because you still believe you’ve breached. You are terrified to think otherwise – that would mean questioning Keith. You believe that having an ‘upset’ years ago, and having a father that really cared about you (i.e., enough to go to the press) has somehow set civilization back hundreds of years. Civilization is not that affected by your minor activities. And I’m sorry to say it, but I think Keith has used your self-centeredness against you. Making you think you are that important. Please hear me, you are no in that way. I think he’s messing with you to get you to do what he wants.)
The answer is simple: I’ve seen so much good come from both our programs and from Keith himself.
(Sometimes you hate the things he ‘makes’ you do. You’ve told me. I think sometimes you secretly hate him but can’t admit it. You’ve lost millions of dollars of your family’s wealth to defend his ridiculous claims in court. Is it true he invented Tele-Conferencing? It doesn’t seem like he did, if you read the court documents. Please have some self respect! Every-time he tells you to spend money you struggle with it. I know you do. Don’t pretend you’re 100% on board)
It would be a tragedy to lose the innovative and transformational ideas and tools that continue to improve the lives of so many.
There have been many defamatory accusations made and I have taken them seriously.
(Honestly, you haven’t taken them seriously. You’ve been trying to figure out how to silence and destroy anyone who says anything different than you, Keith, Lauren, Nancy etc. You sound arrogant and prideful. And we can all see it. We’re silent but we’re not blind.)
Determining the truth is extremely important to me,
(Is it really important to you? I don’t think so anymore. I think keeping Keith’s approval and maintaining power and control is important to you.)
and I can say firmly that neither NXIVM nor Keith have abused or coerced anyone.
I retired from a very successful career as a professional show-jumper because I wanted to do something more meaningful with my life.
(Lies, Clare. He convinced you to give it up and you felt incapable in so many ways. Plus, you were not the athlete – the horse was. It was more useful to have you spend your money on him than the horses you loved. You loved riding! It is so sad you stopped.)
NXIVM is that. As I said, the programs help. I am happy, healthy and financially more successful than I have ever been.
(I’m so sorry to be so harsh because I know this is the root of some of your insecurity but – you’ve never worked a day in your life for money. You are out-of-reality about what financial success is. You are miserable and you look like a skeleton. Also, you have severe circulation problems and are always cold. Hardly healthy! I worry about you. Someone needs to say it.)
I frequently hear and witness stories of individuals improving relationships with loved ones, achieving business goals they never imagined, and overcoming some of the most debilitating conditions, amongst other things.
(Again, BS. Almost no-one achieves business goals and the upper ranks maintain strict control of peoples’ earning capacity. If they are obedient, it goes up-slightly. If not, it goes down. I’m beginning to realize if anyone achieved business goals it was despite ESP not because of it.)
My experience with Keith is no different. I have witnessed his kindness even in the hardest of times,
(Clare, this is amateur public relations. The problem is all the women have begun talking to each other [including me] and the picture coming out is not pretty. You are defending things that are destructive. What if Keith actually is not unified? What if he is attached to keeping his control, through you?)
I have seen world leaders, business leaders, doctors and others seek his counsel on some of the hardest topics and I am inspired by the humility and compassion with which he approaches them all.
(There are many world leaders, business leaders, doctors and others who wouldn’t give him the time of day because they do not respect him or you. OK, some people have taken trainings, but do they still support us? Can you name these world leaders who still seek his counsel? Who are they? Why haven’t you sought people that have had a different experience than what you’re saying you’ve had? You keep dismissing years of accusations which are now becoming clear to me and others in the community. Are they all wrong?)
I know him to be a man dedicated to the betterment of the lives of others,
(Why, because he said so? Why have so many escaped from him, in terror? Why am I afraid to write this?)
and most importantly for me, he is a dear friend
(I think you’re actually afraid of him, and are obsessively in love with him. That is not necessarily a deep friendship, it’s a kind of attachment. It’s beginning to look like he’s dedicated to two things. Controlling and having sex. Those are his highest values. I am embarrassed to say that sadly I know this from personal experience).
who has and continues to help me through the difficult decisions and painful moments in my life,
including my father’s illness and eventual death.
Lastly, while I am not and never have been a member of the sorority, I was reassured to hear from one of the leading forensic psychiatrists in the country, and additionally ex-law enforcement investigators of over thirty years, conclude that the sorority has not coerced nor abused anyone.
(Paying people to say something doesn’t make it so. We know more and more now what has actually happened. A lot of these girls have spoken to me and others.)
In fact, the sorority has truly benefited the lives of its members, and does so freely. I find no fault in a group of women (or men for that matter) freely
(How do you feel about people being coerced with blackmail, vaginal branding and threats if they don’t follow orders?)
It’s not for any of us to judge how they, or anyone else, choose to advance their lives and values.
(It absolutely is for us to judge. You finance Keith and it seems he may have a severe sex and control addiction!! You and Sara finance the entire enterprise which uses the legal system to terrorize people into submission)
(I’m sorry but you don’t respect anyone. You look down on every human except Keith. You see me and many others as a lower class person)
Sorry to be so harsh. But you are very far out of reality. And you are hurting people because of that and because you are in love with someone who many of us now are afraid is showing severe sociopathic tendencies.
I am confused as to why you removed my comment and made it a new post with a new title. Susan Dones is having a field day with it , insisting it must be Barbara…its not. Because you changed the heading and it appears on its own, she is ranting about Barbara being the one who knew Clare well. My opening sentence is..This woman know Clare well….refering to the author of this post. Please put my comment back here too. I will be addressing this crazy tyrate soon. Disgusted !
This is someone who has known Clare and many of us who left. You are wise to open your ears and eyes to all the data. When I left, no one spoke to me again unless they were leaving. Some of my very good friends never even asked me what happened. Keith launched a story that we…9 of us were trying to “extort money”…in fact..Clare claimed we were trying to extort it from her and tried to get law enforcement in both Saratoga and Albany to bring charges against us. They wanted nothing to do with her charade because it was obvious to them we were trying to get money that was owed to us …borrowed by Keith or owed for work/commissions.
Just to clarify…We asked Kieth and Nancy for the money we were owed …no one else..trying to spare Keith the embarrassment that public knowledge of his massive loan might bring.Clare was then conveniently put on the board of Directors the next month. Then she claimed she received an extortion demand. Liar liar pants on fire!
Interestingly, our famous resignation letter has been resurrected once again. Now we have Emilliano claiming that the the very same people are working with the latest group of “unhappy customers” to shed poor light on NX and extort money from him…yes…this almost 9 year old letter..linking people who haven’t spoken to or even met each other.Care and Emilliano are both liars.
Worst than that..Keith has built an empire of cruel, inhumane, unethical robots who continue to lie and slander good people. People who want to move on become casualties of the mission and Keiths ego.
I hope some of my old friends will have the courage to leave and call me….
The last time I saw Clare walking in Knox Woods, it was summer and she was wearing either a down or fleece vest. She also looks a lot older then her actual years on the planet. So I can vouch for the comment that woman on the inside writes about Clare being cold all the time.
Low calorie diets and miles of running plus the other readiness drills, can contribute to a disorder called Anorexia Athletica. That is what the DOS slaves are experiencing. They are setting themselves up for osteopenia/osteoporosis in their elderly years.
If the author of this is who I think it may be ( I wont say her name for her protection) she has known Clare a really long time and is a true friend for having the courage to say what she is saying.
I don’t know if she knows Clare that well. She says Clare is “in love” with VanDouche. Yet, she says she is also afraid of him? Has anyone who has truly been in love with another ever been afraid of them? Do you think Clare really knows what love is in this context? Do you really think VanDouche knows what love is? Real love between human beings is between two people who consider themselves complements. It could never be otherwise. She chose VanDouche over her own father. The man who raised and loved her (and her sister) for years and gave her mega millions of dollars to make sure she didn’t have to worry financially for the rest of her life. She even put a key logger on his machine to spy on him at the request of VanDouche. She’s a confused little (mentally) girl. She is only infatuated with VanDouche, but she’s not in love with him.
I wonder and hope that Allison Mack has taken refuge in a safe place to
to live again, and not to be trapped again in another system.
Has Allison Mack left the cult?
To the best of our knowledge Allison Mack remains in the cult.
I wonder and hope that Allison Mack has taken refuge in a place to revive.
Despite her statement, Clare may be reaching a tipping point. But she would have to get her sister out too. And if Keith stole rather than lost the Bronfman sister’s millions, then he would still have a war chest with which to fight her.
Then again, he’s probably more willing to spend someone else’s money than his own.
Yeah, Clare, instead of using your millions spy on judges and to litigate enemies of NXIVM (really just Raniere), why don’t you investigate where the $68 million you gave to VanDouche to “cover his losses” in the commodities market, and the $27 million you funded for real estate development via the guy he chose who now is serving time, went? Do you really think those were losses for you and not gains for him?
Rick Ross is a very good resource regarding how to win against NXIVM in court.
There is no smoke without fire.
Police, lawyer, politician will never stop these people, because they are identical.
Wolves do not eat each other.
So well said and as an ex-NXer, I’m so glad you have finally seen through all the BS and are going to leave and rebuild your life. Clare and Keith cannot sue everyone who is leaving now if they all come forward.
I did speak out about what I found out when I left to try to save those who wanted to listen. I found out about what I believed to unethical behavior by Keith as the founder of the company. He was having sex with many of his students. Yes, they were adults, but they were students, and some were employees of his company. At the time, all but Nancy Salzman who were members of the executive board were sleeping with Keith. This is a huge conflict of interest not only for a company but in regards to promotion within the company. There can be no fair objective standard. I saw people who didn’t have the qualifications get promoted (Sara Bronfman) and others who did never get promoted).
Keith was also borrowing large sums of money from students (millions – 68 million just from the Bronfmans but there were many others) who were students in his company, another conflict of interest. You don’t do that in business, they are your students.
Like you, I saw a lot of inconsistency’s throughout my time in NXIVM. When I question why do you teach this but do this, it goes against what you teach? I only found harsh punishment. Not by Clare, she was not yet on the inside like she is now. Her sister was more a power player at that time.
NXIVM did sue my partner and me after leaving. It’s not as bad as one would think, scary yes but we were so broke that I couldn’t afford a lawyer. I represented us, myself. I did have help (with a couple of people who know the law and others who knew how they sue who helped me everything, they became my advisers) and in 9 months I was free from NXIVM legal battles and the cost as not that much overall.
NXIVM sent Clare and Jim Del Nigro to testify against me. Big mistake, neither one of them are good on the stand, and when one knows NXIVM’S lies, it’s easy to prove through motions and their testimony in court they are lying.
NXIVM also had seven high paid lawyers, but I knew NXIVM’s inside baseball game, so it was easy to expose them in court. I was able to get a lot of information into court documents due to their lawsuit against me. The best thing was a Judge finally ruled what their confidentiality means, what it covers and does not cover.
It only covers their course materials and only when sashes are worn, and the mission statement is read before the class. Other than that, anything else you learn about you can share. NXIVM was attempting to make it mean that if I learn Keith was having sex with multiple women, I couldn’t talk about it. The Judge in my case say, No
They attempted to sue me over financial damages, but when it came time to turn over their financials in discovery to me, they refused (they don’t want to turn over their books because they haven’t paid taxes in years.) When they ran out of time with the Court to turn them over, the dropped the charges against me, which made the Judge angry as it was half of they 200+ claims against me.
I know a lot of people are fearful about lawsuits but there are some of us who have paved a path for you and we have knowledge of how to beat them in court now. One thing that has happened is we have gotten dragged into each other lawsuits to be deposed in each of these lawsuits. It’s easy for us to bring lawyers up to speed and to help them to help you win a case.
It’s been a long time since NXIVM or Keith has had a win in court. We can help you find lawyers who can take you on either pro bono, sue for counterclaims and do it for a percentage of what they can get from a settlement or a team that can help you take NXIVM on your self.
NXIVM also shot themselves in the foot when they paid a company out of Canada to get financial information on all the setting Judges in all their active cases at the time. This information got leaked out after Kristen Keeffe left NXIVM and made it the the Albany Times Union. All the Judges now know and you can’t tell me that Judges don’t talk to each other. I think they are going to have a hard time in any court system now. This is why I think they are trying to go with law enforcement to try criminal charges.
With Clare and Keith both on the run, it’s hard to sue from another country. They have to be available to be deposed. To do that, they have to come back to the United States, to do that the authorities can be tipped off to when the deposition is. If they don’t show up for a deposition, the lawsuit will end.
Susan Dones left NXIVM after learning about the harem and the conflict of interest it created, and in protest of Raniere’s focus on exploiting the Bronfmans’ billions on legal attacks on his enemies (why didn’t he use the money to promote the ‘mission’ by making ESP free?)
Susan Dones beat NXIVM’s army of flying monkey lawyers basically by herself. She is correct that their Achilles heel in civil suits is that they don’t dare let their financials be examined. And now that Raniere and apparently also Clare are in Mexico fearing prosecution in the US, she is correct that it is almost impossible for them to sue.
It is noteworthy that Frank Parlato has not been sued over Frank Report. Mr. Parlato has almost dared Raniere to sue him, knowing that discovery would allow Raniere’s empire to be exposed.
I am sure that Mr. Parlato’s lawyers would be glad to assist anyone being sued by Raniere or Clare in using discovery to counter-attack them.